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Yes, but as long as they're allowed to remain in charge documentaries won't matter. Rational people have to stand up to them and say "Enough!". The recovery of sanity begins by not voting Democrat.

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By rational people, you mean those who believe in magical entities with wings and superpowered gods? And that includes the very same guy that made this documentary, by the way, who actually believes in those magical entities.

Woke being some crazy extreme doesn't mean the other opposite extreme is sane. They're just another flavor of crazy.

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I don't always agree with you, but I agree with you on this 100%.

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Yes, those particular people who believe in magical entities are still far more rational than your average leftist, who at this point can’t even tell the difference between a man and a woman, that’s how far they’ve fallen.

Somehow being religious hasn’t made rightwingers stupid or adverse to science. I don’t know what leftwingers believe in anymore, or what pseudoscience they’ll cook up next, but it’s destroying their brains more and more every day.

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A trans woman has sex characteristics from both genders. She doesn't fit in neither group, male or female. But you have to put her in one of them, and since the sex characteristics that are relevant for daily life are mostly female, it's reasonable to put her in the woman group.

There's nothing wrong with that. On the other hand, believing in invisible magical winged entities...

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Correction: A hermaphrodite is someone with characteristics of both genders. A trans woman is just a man with butchered body parts. If he wants to live like that, fine, but that doesn’t mean we have to go along with it.

Last I checked, angels don’t actually look like people with wings, that’s just an artistic rendition that got popular. Even then, believing in angels has on average shown to be less toxic to one’s health than wrongfully thinking you’re the opposite gender.

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A transwoman has sex characteristics from both sexes. Stating that a trans woman is a man as some absolute fact is just the mirror image of the wokes that state she's a woman as some absolute fact.

In reality, she's a in a middle zone. And as I said before, it makes more sense to consider her as a woman, and trans men as men.

However, if you truly believe that both trans women and men must be considered as their chromosomal gender, you should be coherent and be willing to have sex with this trans dude, supposed you're a cis hetero guy who is attracted to women, because you truly believe he's a woman, don't you? So, would you kiss him? Would you bang him? Does he makes you horny? Would you enjoy sucking his nipples, wouldn't you? (because you think they're sexy female nipples, let's not forget it)
https://tjobbank.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Benjamin-Melzer-160315.jpg

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It doesn't make sense to call him a woman when he's clearly a man, no matter what he does to himself. It's an absolute fact that he's a man, and wokists don't deal in facts. Trans women are not real women, they're men; trans men are not real men, they're women.

If I was a straight man, I'd only date women, *real* women, as in biological women, as in people with xx chromosomes. If I was a gay man, I'd only date men, *real* men, as in biological men, as in people with xy chromosomes. As it stands, I'm bisexual, so I've dated men and women, but not trans people. They don't do it for me, their attempts at trying to look like the opposite gender gives them an uncanny look that doesn't arouse me at all.

Take Ellen Page, she was hella cute as a woman, but as a guy? Ew no. "His" shirtless picture looks so wrong and is a major turn-off, despite appearing fit. Ellen is still a woman, no matter what artificial and unnatural means she used to alter her body, she's a woman, a woman with a mutated body.

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It doesn't make sense to call him a woman when he's clearly a man, no matter what he does to himself. It's an absolute fact that he's a man, and wokists don't deal in facts. Trans women are not real women, they're men; trans men are not real men, they're women.

Ahem... Benjamin Melzer is a trans man. He was born a woman.

You probably thought the picture was a pre-transition picture of a trans woman, but it's a picture of him post-transition. I'm sure he'd be glad that even a transphobe like you say that he's clearly a man and it doesn't make sense to call him a woman 😂

And this is the (sadly) fun part of it. Now you know he's a trans man, you will probably make an U-turn and say he's clearly a woman, that he's obviously in some uncanny valley and you will start to call him "she".

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I have no idea who Benjamin Melzer is, I was still referring to your hypothetical trans woman earlier in our discussion. That link you posted didn’t open for me for some reason, so I ignored it.

I stand by what I said, you are what you’re born as, no amount of surgery and hormones will change that. That’s not transphobic, that’s common sense.

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Thought I'd give links that you can't say don't work

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4476887/?ref_=tt_cl_t_6

Woman at birth. So I guess to you, Brian is a woman? You would want Brian to use the woman's washroom?

What about Ian Harvie? https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3719520/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

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I say again: if they were born female, then they’re still female no matter what. If they were born male, then they’re still male no matter what.

Those two people might have more convincing flesh-costumes than Ellen Page based on those pictures, but they’re still costumes. Those two are women.
For everyone’s sake, though, they should only use those private gender-neutral bathrooms when out in public, considering they’re too far gone in their “transition”.

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And all I'm saying is that if you met either one on the street you wouldn't know they were born with female genitalia, and that it shouldn't matter.

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There are stories of trans men still being able to give birth despite transitioning. No matter what they do to themselves, they can't change who they really are, they're still women.

You are more than welcome to date a trans person if genitalia doesn't matter to you, but it matters to me. I don't date fakes.

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So now I'm just dating someone on the street? Where did I say that? I would hope that if I was going to be dating someone, that they would let me know that they were trans. That is a different topic though and nothing to do with worrying what strangers have in their pants.

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I didn't say anything about dating on the street, that was you. All I said was if you don't care about genitals, then by all means date these trans people, you can have them.

Since you hope someone would tell you if they were trans if you were dating them, then clearly you worry about what they have in their pants to some degree, which is fine, so do I.

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You brought up dating when I mentioned people on the street.

Of course I care what someone parts someone has when I'm going to sleep with them. Who wouldn't? I thought that was just common sense, that most people would want to know if there was anything that might be a surprise when it comes to intercourse. But you twisted to conversation into dating when the conversation was about identifying trans people. I shared some pictures of trans men, and I think that most people wouldn't call them women unless they knew that they were born with vaginas.

My only point here, and you are free to disagree all you want, is that there are a lot of trans people who you wouldn't know are trans, and unless you feel like checking the genitals of everyone you meet, who cares? Unless you are going to sleep with them (because I guess that doesn't go without saying), it's none of your business.

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It's funny that people say "it's none of your business" when they keep making it our business. Hell, we're currently in pride month, where they spend the whole month flaunting their business. It wasn't that long ago when the LGBT movement was about telling everyone else that their sexuality isn't a big deal and that people shouldn't care what they do in the bedroom. These days it's "like us or else, bigot!"

Like you said, I don't care unless I somehow end up dating one, in which case I'd like to know. I'm not going around harassing trans people or anything, I just don't play along with their delusions. They're getting better at hiding that uncanny valley effect, but that's not necessarily a good thing, especially if they no longer feel like telling us they're trans if we start dating them. After all, why would they continue keeping us informed if people keep pushing the narrative that gender is a social construct and that genitals don't really matter?

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The only thing that you have just said that is true is the fact that you don't know what leftwingers believe in anymore.

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You might be surprised at how many of the smartest and most influential people throughout history believed in magical entities.

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I simply do not know what that has to do with anything.

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It has to do with the other stuff I said that you think isn’t true.

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Not particularly. Someone can be smart and influential and still be irrational.

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But is their irationality necessarily because of their religious beliefs, though?

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Not solely. They can be irrational by other means as well.

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Leonardo da Vinci believed in those "magical entities." Ever heard of him?

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Nobody is perfect.

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This ^

"Enough of the counterpunching. Enough of the invalidation of
the other side.
Come to the common table that represents the American people.
Find a middle ground, a place where most of us Americans live
anyway.
I promise you, America, you and me... We are not as divided as
we are being told we are."

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Dr. Michelle Forcier, the "does a chicken cry?" woman he interviewed is the worst of the bunch and she is among those in power that you don't see in social media but are working behind the scenes teaching students, professors and even judges and treating children facilitating them to transition. She speaks with the same soft, condescending tone as usual talking to you as if you were a child. Good job on this documentary to put a spotlight on her. People like her are the main driving force behind this ideology.

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Not only are lunatics in charge, but they are terrifying normal people into pretending to believe their bullshit out of fear they'll get bullied or cancelled.

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