MovieChat Forums > Side by Side (2012) Discussion > digitial streaming has boosted torrent d...

digitial streaming has boosted torrent digital downloads


For me celluloid film produced better quality in film. I was born in the 70's so 90's films on VHS were the peak, which had real stars. Watching Netflix today the quality of film has fallen dramatically. Digital productions obviously came after torrents being shared on peer to peer software on MS Windows and Macintosh.

I get film production companies want people going to cinema. Every time I go with my partner to the cinema there are less than 20 people.

The films that take in one billion are paying for the other productions that make the losses.

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon in 2000 cost $17,000,000 which made $213,977,285
torrents became popular after 2000
The Matrix Resurrections in 2021 cost $190,000,000 which made £130,000,000

The money loss to Hollywood is now both the digital film looks poorer and the cost of production has increased, plus the content is saturated, so people choose to download a free torrent rather than pay £40 for a cumbersome disc.

reply

what is your comment "digital film looks poorer" based on?

reply

For me I prefer watching the films made on celluloid, take films like Terminator 2, the original Robocop for example. It had some grain and reality. The current digital look is quite odd. If you are scrolling trough Netflix for example, i just think it all looks the exact same rubbish.

It is the look, maybe its sharp and lacks mystery, but it just looks low budget. The Side by Side (2012) documentary mentioned this subject with pornography filmed on digital home cameras, not a professionally. The problem i see is "digital film looks poorer".

The Side by Side (2012) documentary showed the modern brave directors will to use celluloid, even though the production is harder with processing and limitations in the cartridges.

reply

ok, full respect for your perspectives on this, and they are solid for you.

I feel film was the very best they could do at the time, and comes with baked in inconsistencies like grain and maybe glow and bleed, color etc, but now we have options for much better quality, higher detail, more accurate color, and now we are approaching better dynamic range also.

We got use to and accepted film's look. And need to relearn to accept better. better being less of the fails of the analog film medium. and we can still make digital look and act like film any time we desire. but we can't make film look like digital: higher detail, more precise images, accurate color..

we have not fully adjusted yet, nor learned how best to film digitally. (well, now it is indistinguishable so I guess we have arrived). same thing happened from vynil to digital CD: growing pains dealing with much higher quality and accuracy, but we go through it. same with HD TV when detail was too high... we had to step up our game of makeup, sets, lighting. we got there.

Film definitely has a look... but being better or worse will be subjective in the future, where as in the past it was our ONLY option, so, nothing looked better.

reply