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Rand might hate this review, but it's who I am


I just left the movie version of Ayn Rands’ “Atlas Shrugged”…part ll; it was obvious that there was more money available for this production than in the case of Part l. But in both productions I saw an opportunity for the author to reach out from the grave and carry her message to a generation that has little or no knowledge of her work.
As I looked around the almost empty theater I was saddened by the lack of attendance. It was my only hope that those watching had seen part 1, and had not read the book. I prayed as I watched the movie, asking God to help instill the message of this production in those attending across the country. I asked my Lord to give the viewers the power of empathy that they may feel in their hearts the pain portrayed on the screen. I wanted the audience to experience something that could only come from witnessing the deterioration of something so great that its demise would bring a pain that demanded a call to action in all those watching. I was tempted to address the small crowd, to give voice to my own thoughts, and to beg that they raise their own voices in a call to arms. I wanted to say something that would be carried out of that theatre and shared by everyone in attendance. But I am no orator, no wordsmith that could ever inspire the kind of response I was praying for. My impotence had me leaving the theatre in tears I could not stop, with a feeling that I had failed my great country at a time when every voice of opposition to our current state should take wings and spread the word that our own future was on display in the movie I had just watched. I felt like a coward for not giving flight to my thoughts, for not shouting at the top of my lungs that our future had been written in 1957!
For those who are unfamiliar with Ayn Rand, she escaped the Russian revolutions that seemed to occur back to back in the early 20th century. Before leaving Russia she experienced the violence, the hunger, the confusion, homelessness, and brutality that were the hallmark of the birth of the Soviet Union. Ayn Rand bore witness to the ravages of war, depersonalization, and the loss of individuality that is Communism. Her flight from Hell, as she might put it, landed her in America finding herself ensconced in Hollywood Society where she did script rewrites, and whatever she could to contribute and earn her way with people that included Cecil B DeMille. Ayn Rand found her utopia; it was in the United States, fueled by capitalism, and driven by American individualism and exceptionalism. Rand’s first major writing success came in her 1943 book “The Fountainhead”, but what is considered her greatest literary achievement came in her 1957 tome “Atlas Shrugged”, which brings us back to the subject at hand.
“Atlas Shrugged Part ll” successfully conveys the failure of all that is part of the Obama Agenda. It is a clear display of the internal rot that is the core of socialism and government control of anything beyond the limits so clearly defined in the American Constitution and Bill of Rights. It paints a clear picture of all that is wrong with large government, crony capitalism, and the failure that is always the end result of government control of the marketplace. The dichotomy that is total government control of the marketplace at one end and pure capitalism at the other is presented clearly and concisely by Rand, and is taken to heights others haven’t imagined, or were too frightened to express before. When Obama told every entrepreneur in America that “They didn’t build this!” he was playing a part that Rand had written in more than one book. There is nothing the government can do that can’t be done better and more economically by an entrepreneur that “Didn’t build this!” Anyone with a lifetime experience that is limited to working in government is also limited in the ability to create an entity that is efficient, functional, and profitable. In government there is no need for efficiency, functionality, or ever profitability. When working with money that is taken from the masses there is no concern for those elements in anything that is created. When the money runs out, the government functionary simply applies for more taxes and his shortage is made up. This is the fundamental truth of government, and it is why people stood in line for hours just to purchase a roll of toilet paper during the heady days of Soviet domination of Eastern Europe. It is what Ayn Rand witnessed before her escape to America, and it is the underlying truth in all her writing.
Every voter in America should see “Atlas Shrugged” parts 1 and 2, and then they need to read the book. If they did, there would never be another socialist elected in the United States of America again, in fact it could well spell the demise of the Democrat Party as we know it today.

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Randists are scum. Philosophy of selfishness? No one should learn that tripe. I'm glad the miser died alone and unhappy.

Altruism pwns, stay away from Ayn Rand and the new Atlanteans for your sanity.

'Free thinkers' usually don't travel the left hand path. It's more for closed minded luciferians.

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tl;dr

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Ayn would be amazed at this current Administration, its so prophetic its
scary. This country died Nov 4 2008 when we elected the socialist tyrant.

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This country died Nov 4 2008 when we elected the socialist tyrant.

But not the corporate tyrant before him or the socialist tyrant before him or the corporate tyrant before him...etc...?
or the thieving, lying congressmen over the past 50 years? Or the corrupt or inept judges over the last 100 years?

This country has been on its deathbed long before 2008. But no one is willing to pull the plug and let this nation's disease-riddled body die with dignity.
But no one has the decency and courage to use the cure.



My "#3" key is broken so I'm putting one here so i can cut & paste with it.

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This is a very thoughtful and reflective review to which I concur. I am an admirer of Any Rand and have a CHS copy of the 1949 film, The Fountainhead. I gave the film a much higher rating than the 5.2 it has received thus far, not so much for the excellence in acting, but for the message it is trying to convey. I appreciate the thoughts expressed by "freethinkingperson" and hope that maybe some others were able to grasp the message as well. Considering the intellectual shape this nation is in today, I have my concerns!!! Again, thanks for the review!!!

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so basically you're saying the movie sucked but if they'd just shown the title page of the book for two hours you'd have given it a good rating for "the message".

got it!

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Having read all of these posts, slagging off Obama, slagging off Europe, talking about socialism and communism, etc etc...

...one thing comes to mind. Please excuse my lack of knowledge of the American Constitution (I'm a Brit), however, doesn't it begin "We the People"?

Surely the power that a government derives is in fact derived from the willing participation of the majority of the people? Witness the Arab Spring when the People (with a capital P) decided they were not going to take it any more. This is what struck me about this film. The lack of realism for the reaction of the People. Do we really think that the President would sign in such wide-sweeping rules and it wouldn't end up in mass riots? Look to Britain in 1990 for the Poll Tax Riots [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll_Tax_Riots ] which was over a taxation that failed to take into account ability to pay, along with a lot of leftist agitating. Possibly what brough an end the the reign of Thatcher.

Now please take a look at this [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots ]. Following a police shooting, the police attacked a youth who was taunting them. It is a familiar story - France, Germany, America... People started to riot, and then the whole thing spiraled out of control as sections of the populace who had nothing to lose and felt forgotten and ignored realised that the police had effectively lost control. So they rioted because they could. They smashed stuff because they could. And they burned down 100 year old businesses and shops and cars because... well, who the hell knows. They probably thought it was funny. The reasons why are neither here nor there, and I figure the political parties will blame each other for years. That doesn't matter either. What matters is that this functioning coherent society in which we live is a lot more fragile than it might seem. Sure, the rich get rich and the poor don't get much of anything. How long do you think I will be prepared to pay more and more for petrol while the oil companies continue to declare record profits? When will it no longer be economically viable for people to go to work? Is it fair that the banking system screws up time and again and we little people end up paying for it? This isn't a political rant - just a reminder that there are many things ticking in the background, any number of them with the potential to spark a catastrophe.

So to this film. So many terrible and burdensome laws and directives that make no sense, along with a blatant blatant landgrab by the government (sign over all copyrights and patents? really?) and the only protests around are a sorry band of people waving placards that is perhaps all the film's budget could support? It just plain isn't realistic. If the events of this film come to pass, if filling a tank with petrol cost eight hundred dollars (wow, even more than over here!), there would be widespread civil disobedience that would bring the government down long before we worry about whether or not a railroad works.

Remember, a government derives its power either from the willing complicity of the people or from fear (as in many dictatorships) but the latter case is a fragile arrangement as the people can decide they have had enough.

Remember, We the People. It isn't socialist, capitalist, democrat, republican, tory, labour, or any political colour under the sun. It is just a simple reminder of a simple truth. Without the support of people, a President/King/Prime Minister/Emperor is the President/King/PM/Emperor of nothing at all.

We the People.

I think, perhaps, Ayn Rands forgot that.

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A little intriguing rant you've put up. Or is it merely trolling? Although I should know better, I feel compelled to waste some time to this:

You talk about socialism and communism, as if they were the same. They are not.

You know nothing of real socialism. MAYBE you know something about communism, which is an off-branch to marxism, and has been implemented in real life. Socialism as a political direction has been realized in state official policy only a handful times, and every time by democratically elected parliaments (Mitterand in France, Olof Palme in Sweden, Chavez in Venezuela etc.).

Your country has never had socialism, at all. Nothing in US history resembles the political theory to real socialistic agendas. It's all about the individual progress and pursuit to happiness, i.e. appropriation of property, wealth and status. The liberal notions coexists with the materialistic gains that is the direct results of right wing politics (in essence, both Democrats and Republicans are right wing parties, compared to socialistic and anarchistic traditions, or even fascism).

I'm curious why so many US citizens have no clue to this simple truths. Yet you keep on lingering to old ideas from the McCarthy era, as if there is a REAL difference between Democrats and Republicans, or that anything that isn't the American Way equals political opposition and therefore is a part of a communistic complex.

You felt sad that no one understood the greatness of Ayn Rand. I feel sad you have no clue to the opposite side of the coin. Rand didn't understand this either, as her depictions were shallow and predictably equal to mere fiction. Even George Orwell did better in understanding the mechanics of oppression and state controlled media.

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The US never has elected a Socialist. If you think Obama is one, you didn't pay attention in high school civics class. And buy the way, you are taking the "...you didn't build that" remark out of context just the same way the GOP did in their convention. They lost because they are losers, and so are you.

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