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was he supposed to be a pedophile?


George Clooney's character hangs out with a high school girl and a grade school girl, the latter being a robot, which he cries over when she professes her childhood love.

I'm not suggesting that anything happened sexually--but were we supposed to think that maybe he was still hung up on his childhood experiences with her that he was a pedo?

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Apparently there is a widespread but unsaid dark suspicion that should sophisticated audio-animatronics ever hit the retail market the most popular model will be females of Athena's age.

But being distracted by this causes you to miss the main symbolic point of the film. Which is that Frank and Athena were symbolically the same person. When Frank gives up and becomes jaded, his optimism is passed to Athena and his identity splits. Athena becomes the receptacle of his dreams, they are preserved in her and they in turn change her into something more than a bunch of ones and zeros. Disney explored this same concept back in 2004 with "Pixel Perfect", both films are about finding an identity in a digital world.

At the end when Frank and Athena merge back into one identity, those qualities become part of him again. This is why her shutdown scene is so intense and so full of eye contact, her spirit is passing back into Frank. The whole device is in the service of illustrating the "every moment is a chance for a better tomorrow" theme and to show that even the old and cynical can be pulled back to their youthful idealism, as long as a malignancy has not destroyed their core belief system. Frank's temporarily going off-the-tracks is what Athena really meant about someone not being a failure just because they are out of sync.

The scene also has a coming-of-age symbolism, in discarding Athena's body Frank is discarding and moving on from the childhood he has been desperately clinging to his entire life. Most viewers hate the lengthy introduction because Frank's negative personality is largely unchanged and therefore not consistent with his character's growth during the film.

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Apparently there is a widespread but unsaid dark suspicion that should sophisticated audio-animatronics ever hit the retail market the most popular model will be females of Athena's age.


Actually such models will be illegal because of the potential for such activities.

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The scene also has a coming-of-age symbolism, in discarding Athena's body Frank is discarding and moving on from the childhood he has been desperately clinging to his entire life.


It's interesting that you mentioned the coming of age aspect because Athena's death reminded me a lot of Tinkerbell sacrificing herself to save Peter Pan. Originally she drinks poison that was left for Peter by Captain Hook, but in Disney's version Hook leaves a bomb and Tinkerbell removes it to save him, putting herself in danger. I would say that these two characters have a similar relationship to that of Peter Pan and Tinkerbell. Perhaps this was done not only because Peter Pan is another Disney movie, but because it involves children flying, going to an unusual world, and - if you think of how one locates Neverland - space travel. I can see other parallels between the two stories as well, but as this is off-topic I'll end my post here.

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Really? This is what you thought? Good lord.



I just threw up a little in my mouth.

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I started a new thread on 06/13/16 called "Frank and Athena".

In it I outline stories that have relationships somewhat similar in many but not all ways to the Frank and Athena relationship.

Those who consider the relationships in my stories creepy can consider the Frank and Athena relationship in Tomorrowland creepy, while those who don't consider the relationships in my stories creepy should not consider the Frank and Athena relationship in Tomorrowland creepy

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Given that they met when he was, and she appeared to be, a child, I should think that fraternal love is more likely than the romantic kind.

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It's very possible that Damon Lindelof who is the writer for the movie is a pedophile. I definitely wouldn't put it past his screwed up mind.

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Athena was older than Frank, though we don't really know how much older.
For all we know, she could've been the pedo.

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If she's from the future, then she's a negative number age. ? And if she was at the '64 World's Fair, then she's a cougar to George Clooney who was 3 years old in 1964.

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I think you need some professional help.


Time wounds all heels.

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