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The Real Influences as provided by Suzanne Collins


The influences for Suzanne Collins' "Hunger Games" all makes sense to me now. I got tired of the revolving messages where people are throwing rocks over the fence and found a couple of good interviews.

She read "Lord of the Flies" (1954 novel) as a teenager. It is one of her favorite books. In this dystopian novel a group of boys are stranded on an island because of a plane crash. The island essentially becomes like an arena where they turn against each other because of multiple reasons. Paranoia sets in because part of them think there is a monster on the isle. Some refuse to do chores for the common good. Essentially tribes are formed where they scheme against each other.

She enjoyed and was influenced by "1984" (1949 dystopian novel) and "Brave New World" (1931 utopian novel).

She loves "The Lottery" (published 1948) which is a story where a village of about 300 people have a yearly lottery event. Each family removes a piece of paper from a black box. If a family gets a slip with a black dot a second drawing occurs for individual family members. Whoever removes a slip with a black dot gets stoned to death by children who have gathered rocks.

She was also a Greek mythology fanatic as a child and influenced heavily by Theseus and the Minotaur. In this story King Minos of Crete won a war against the Athenians. He then demanded that seven Athenian boys and seven Athenian girls were to be sent to Crete every nine years to be devoured by the Minotaur, a half-man, half-bull monster that lived in the Labyrinth.

She grew up in a military family where her father served in the Vietnam War. Her father also grew up in the depression where hunting was important to survive. He would go into the woods and bring back all kinds of mushrooms (to be cooked for eating) during her childhood. Her mother would not let family members eat them but her father never got harmed by them. This inspired her to also read a lot of wilderness survival guidebooks.

I could not find where she mentions "The Running Man" in any interview but perhaps I missed it.

EDIT* Corrected a grammar issue. The only missing element from all of her influences is the television glamorization of the event. It would make sense that "The Running Man" provided it.

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And she probably read them, Takami probably read them as well. They are both educated people and I don't know about you but I studied history at school, and Ancient Rome was covered. But maybe Takami didn't read them, maybe he only saw 'Spartacus'. That's the thing with 2000 years of history and 5000 year old myths. People read them and know about them.

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The Theseus myth
Lord of the Flies
The Lottery
Star Trek
Mad Max and the Thunderdome
Quatermass
Punishment Park

Shall we discuss actual child soldiers from WW2 onward. Unfortunately inspiration is all around us. But you just prefer to believe that you were clever enough to know about BR before everyone else. Well maybe you are, after all BR is not exactly known outside of the Otaku community. Even there there are probably some who have never heard of it. No one including Collins had ever heard of it outside of it. It's still not known about outside of a few movie boards. It's not exactly discussed anywhere else. Of course you will deny that, proving it is a lot harder.

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Says a guy who claims that 'Captain America: The Winter Soldier' is a ripoff of 'Mr. India', even though it is very well established that Captain America's origin can be traced way back to 1940s.

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I hate to tell you, but every single one of those stories has a fixed government. Even in 'Lord of the Flies' there is a despot. Do you know what a fixed governing body is? It the person who tells his minions what to do. And he/she doesn't have to be in a book-lined office to do it either.

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How started this bullcacky about Lord of the Flys, anyway? Ugh, my curiosity got the better of me and I ordered a copy from Ebay. I can safely say that it has nothing in common with the Battle Royale subgenre apart from the "youths" angle...

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How about The Long Walk as an influence? just replace the walking till only one still stands to a fight to the death and it's pretty much the same. A event each year choosing young people (If I remember correctly in The Long Walk were youngsters from 12 to 18) who represent their states. The winner also its supposed to have everything they want for the rest of their lives. The Long Walk was also broadcast to all the country, and there's also the element of a totalitarian military goverment...

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He/she didn't even post that interview video. You were saying???

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The Real Influences as provided by Suzanne Collins


HINT: If these "influences" were provided by Suzanne Collins, they aren't real.

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The influences for Suzanne Collins' "Hunger Games" all makes sense to me now. I got tired of the revolving messages where people are throwing rocks over the fence and found a couple of good interviews.

She read "Lord of the Flies" (1954 novel) as a teenager. It is one of her favorite books. In this dystopian novel a group of boys are stranded on an island because of a plane crash. The island essentially becomes like an arena where they turn against each other because of multiple reasons. Paranoia sets in because part of them think there is a monster on the isle. Some refuse to do chores for the common good. Essentially tribes are formed where they scheme against each other.

She enjoyed and was influenced by "1984" (1949 dystopian novel) and "Brave New World" (1931 utopian novel).

She loves "The Lottery" (published 1948) which is a story where a village of about 300 people have a yearly lottery event. Each family removes a piece of paper from a black box. If a family gets a slip with a black dot a second drawing occurs for individual family members. Whoever removes a slip with a black dot gets stoned to death by children who have gathered rocks.

She was also a Greek mythology fanatic as a child and influenced heavily by Theseus and the Minotaur. In this story King Minos of Crete won a war against the Athenians. He then demanded that seven Athenian boys and seven Athenian girls were to be sent to Crete every nine years to be devoured by the Minotaur, a half-man, half-bull monster that lived in the Labyrinth.

She grew up in a military family where her father served in the Vietnam War. Her father also grew up in the depression where hunting was important to survive. He would go into the woods and bring back all kinds of mushrooms (to be cooked for eating) during her childhood. Her mother would not let family members eat them but her father never got harmed by them. This inspired her to also read a lot of wilderness survival guidebooks.

I could not find where she mentions "The Running Man" in any interview but perhaps I missed it.

EDIT* Corrected a grammar issue. The only missing element from all of her influences is the television glamorization of the event. It would make sense that "The Running Man" provided it.



So, "Lord of the Flies" + "Theseus and the Minotaur" + "1984" + "Brave New World" + "The Lottery" = "Battle Royale II: Requiem"?

Good logic.




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