I get that she's a program, but I wonder if she's supposed to be an adaptive ai that actually begins to have feelings for K. She's pretty convincing, asking to be put on the handheld device and all. If she truly develops feelings for him, it adds another layer to the question of soul. The same thoughts were provoked in me after watching Altered Carbon.
shareI read a bunch of discussions concerning this topic and what I got is... no one knows for sure. She very clearly appears to be sentient but every single emotion she conveys could all be part of her programming. If all the advanced Joi’s in the world were designed to be 100% similar to K’s Joi, then is she actually real? She was designed this way for a reason.
Even so, I prefer the idea of her being real, as in having her own thoughts and emotions. I think her emotions and feelings for K were all too strong to not be genuine.
I just can't believe that such feelings are real. If I encountered such a being, I'd assume that they were programmed to express the feelings their owner wanted to see, and that they were programmed to get better and better at pleasing their Master over time. The fact is, I would *only* accept that an AI being was genuinely sentient if they started to express emotions that were not in their original programming, or emotions or opinions that displeased their owner. Anything else, I would assume were upgrades.
So no, if virtual girlfriends and boyfriends were available, I wouldn't get one. I'd just consider a virtual butler, now there's a relationship where I'd always know where I stood.
Are you asking if she is self aware or if she has a mystical soul?
That IS the question. Is she self aware, or is it just programming? If she is self aware, is that the essence of a mystical soul?
shareBeing self aware is the essence of sentient life, but a soul is the a matter of faith based mysticism.
I am not sure about Joi, but there are indications that Ava, in Ex Machina, is sentient.
Alternative theory: Joi was being controlled by Luv. We know that Luv is instantly alerted when Joi goes offline. After Joi dies there is a scene where Luv says to K, "Good boy," which is a phrase used several times by Joi.
shareJoi names K "Jo" in the shooting script, and the Giant Naked Joi hologram calls him "a good Joe". However, in a verbal and visual medium like film, the difference between "Jo" and "Joe" just doesn't register. And Luv calls K a "bad dog" shortly BEFORE destroying Joi.
shareShooting script aside, it seems unlikely Joi told K, "by the way, that's 'Jo' without an 'e,' unlike the 'Joe' my billboard ads are programmed to say."
Point being, I think it's meant to be ambiguous, from K's point of view and the audience's, just how "special" K's Joi actually was.
Personally, with AI like Joi, how we as users and audience members respond to them is more important and interesting.
The Turing test, if I recall correctly, isn't meant to create a hard boundary beyond which AI is "true AI"; the test is simply meant to identify a point where, for the outside observer, there is no functional difference between AI and biological sentience.
It's likely that "Joe" was the only name Joi could think of to name K, and the different spelling was a hint to whoever played Joi that her feelings were real.
shareA hottie like Ana De Armas but you can't even touch her? Fuck that virtual nonsense!!!
shareRemember that she is a corporate product, if she were too well developed with the full gamet of female emotions, this might be a turnoff to the consumer. So therefore I will argue that she does not have a true soul.
shareBut K is a product too...the only difference between K and Joi other than the functions they serve is that K has a physical body and Joi doesn't.
shareGood point. We are heading fast to these moral/ philosophical questions with the breakneck development of AI by the superpowers.
If AI develops beond expectations, as strange as it sounds today... 'robots' rights groups might form with the help of humans... And could go through the same trials as did the slaves in the USA.
What if the character Data from 'Star Trek' was only about 20 years away?
This is an unbelievably deep topic and the replies to this post could stretch 1000 pages and only start scratching the surface. For the sake of brevity, I would suggest drawing your own conclusions.
shareJOI is just a program and nothing more, anything it "feels" is artificial. Machines will never be human.
sharelisten i admit im a bit of a techophobe when it comes to AI but Humanity is universal no matter who or what you are
shareUh no, the clue is in the word itself. Humanity requires... you know, humans. A machine will never be more than a machine. And anyone who thinks a machine can have "feelings" is a fool.
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