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I wanted to really like this but it was mediocre


So I am not a fan of Blade Runner from 'way back', I only just saw the theatrical version (and saw it twice) last week. I wanted to know why this movie was a cult classic and why it was worth making a sequel so many years later.

What struck me about the original was the 'magic' to this futuristic dystopian world. They have 'replicas' but somewhere in these creations laid the true humanity, as the 'humans' seemed devoid of all the good things that made them human.

Roy Batty's performance was incredible, and his death scene masterfully shot, acted, and scored.

But this movie was more of your typical, 'post apocalyptic' world. A 'torched earth' sort of feel.

I didn't like the score. The score in the original was the heart to the world. This was your typical sound effects and ambient noises. The only nice part was the finale where we heard the original score played again (a homage to the Roy Batty death.)

The advertising made me think that this was a dual-hero movie, with both Harrison Ford and Ryan Gosling as leads. Instead, I spent half the movie wondering where Harrison Ford was.

Visually, the original really pushed it. It was sort of an oriental, technologied-up world. Sort of how you might imagine Tokyo in 100 years.

I wanted to also feel transported into the future. But what I saw wasn't that imaginative.

We had a cgi fish jump out of the water and some flying pods and drones.

At least with the movie Tron the critics said (and were right) that despite the weak story, it was a visual feast. This wasn't the case.

It seemed to end with some rebellion/revolution that is about to happen but given the weakness of this movie, I doubt we'll see that.

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did u watch any of the trailers beforehand?

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Yes.

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shouldn't have done that. they pretty much spoil everything.

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Agreed

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ALSO wanted to love it. Big fan of original AFTER I grew up and understood it. But, yes, came away from this unexcited.

I listen to the old soundtrack on youtube here and there. Yesterday I pulled up the NEW soundtrack music... yeah, not much to it. nothing to identify, OCCASIONAL nods to the old music, but no relatable melodies like the old one had. They should have sort of RE DONE the older music and modernized it, instead of copy it as an offshooot. I mean, they tacked on the old music at the end to pull that emotion I guess, but it is the same movie, same universe, is a sequel so the same music should be allowed.

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The original soundtrack is great. It’s on Spotify. They left some dialogue in it, which is a real treat.

Hanz Zimmerman turned the soft trumpets into his ‘inception horns’ and made it feel like every other doomsday movie.

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I kinda felt the same way. I liked some of the visuals and the technology I thought was really well updated but I just wasn't feeling the story offered much that was new from the first one at all.

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I agree with some of your points/assertions.

I like the new score a lot. I've been listening to it almost every day. But the Vangelis score I've listened to scores of times over the years, and that was after waiting almost a decade for it to be released. So, old score A++, new score B+. Plus, the new score has only a few transcending moments, Vangelis' had at least a dozen and they last longer.

Harrison's character arrived too late yet was too central. He should have been like Lt. Joshi, an important side character but Deckard felt somewhere in between. Agent K was the central lead, and while he was played well, and "flat", it was too flat.

I disagree completely on being transported to the future. It was a visual feast and bleak as hell. Very believable.

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Bleak as hell but in the original, it was beautiful at the same time. I loved the locations used.

I'll give the new score a listen and see if it grows on me. I'm not a big fan of Hans because its more ambient sounds than composition, but he sometimes delivers nice melodies, like the sentimental score in Superman V Batman.

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I disagree, I thought the movie had a lot of deeper meanings to it that you could infer but were a bit under the surface, same as the original. It touched on our thoughts and conflicts with slavery, also the belonging/ wanting to be a part of a family. To me, K wanted to be in a family so badly all along, but he never was, he was only ever loved by another machine. The whole "twins" thing- In a way deckard did have twins, one real person, and one replicant, since they both had similar memories. K was like a lost son in a way, and his last efforts were to get his "father" to his "sister", I think he loved them. He wanted to be in a family and was happy to die for it at the end, vs. dying while fighting humans. The sister may have even put her memories into K so she could have a "brother" out there somewhere in the world and not feel so alone.

To me the world made sense also, it was falling apart in the original, and here is that same world 30 years later. It is even worse off, and I liked that it was a futuristic world in the universe of the original movie. (with the same brands!) I thought it was very imaginative- I was amazed at Wallace's offices and even when they say later how rare wood is, his office was full of beautiful woods. The whole thing had a sort of film-noir-future that the original had, and they brought that same feel to this. To me this is far better than Tron, I would pass on a "visual feast", for an engaging story and characters that make you think, and this movie had both. There so many more little nods and interactions that fleshed out the characters and the world, I want to see it a 2nd time.

I will agree that the score wasn't as memorable as the original, and they could have put a little bit more of the original score into it, but all the scenes fit with the music I felt.

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I didn’t feel Joes emotions as much as perhaps I should have, like you. I will see it again but probably on DVD. The fem-bot thing didn’t go well with me. I’m not a big fan of female assassins. You don’t yell “get her!” When a fight is taking place. Unlike the original, where killing the females felt wrong (and it was meant to) this was meant to feel right, so a male would have been better in my opinion.

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