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Pandering and Obnoxious Propaganda

posted 8 years ago by ibnjaskoni
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I'm currently on the Hotel season. I couldn't decide who was my favorite character between John Lowe and Nick Prior/Liz Taylor. I just barely got to episode 5, the annoying-as-hell and preachy propaganda episode. If people are transphobic, then they're going to be transphobic whether you force an after-school-special about acceptance down the audience's throat. I watch AHS for horror and creepiness, not to have SJW bullsh*t shoved down my throat.

Like I said, I already really liked Nick/Liz, the character is interesting, has good development, and is a weirdly compassionate person in their own b*tchy and snarky way. I'm just really annoyed that AHS essentially took an episode to pass the microphone to self-righteous social justice warriors who pat themselves on the back for shoehorning their own personal views into a TV show. Why in the hell do the overwhelming majority of TV shows have to double as a platform for leftists to force their politics down everyone's throats? Why in the loving *beep* does Hollywood feel the need to pander like that? Entertainment should be entertainment and politics should be politics. Regardless of whatever asinine views Hollywood has, it's actually possible (and preferable) to keep the two things separate.

And to all the a**holes who are going to jump on this post and accuse me of transphobia, go *beep* yourself with a rusty screwdriver. I have nothing against transgender people. I do, however, take great issue with Hollywood trying to "convert" people by dedicating entire episodes of a TV show to something that is 100% irrelevant to the theme, plot, and subject matter of the story.

[–] jnatch 8 years ago

lol yes you do

ever heard of the expression "thou protesteh too much"

fits you to a tea

[–] josh-84816 8 years ago

It wasn't irrelevant to the plot, it was developing Liz's character. And also, teaching people to be open-minded and treating people as people and not labeling them isn't "leftist propaganda." It's just a good lesson. I'm very conservative, and I'm not going to accuse you of transphobia, but I think you took this the wrong way.

[–] DjinnPandaemonium 8 years ago

Thanks for using the term SJW - it's always handy shorthand for someone not worth discussing much with.

If you find socially progressive themes in entertainment you might find yourself limited for options, artists tend to be of the less socially conservative or reactionary breed. There's always Ted Nugent or maybe some old episodes of Charles in Charge?

[–] sslssg 8 years ago

I do, however, take great issue with Hollywood trying to "convert" people by dedicating entire episodes of a TV show to something that is 100% irrelevant to the theme, plot, and subject matter of the story.

I am curious as to what Hollywood is "converting" people into? If you have nothing against trans people, then why is a back story about a trans person any worse than a back story about any character? Why is it even an issue? Most of the characters had an episode dedicated to their backstory.

[–] danloki 8 years ago

The conspiracy theorist in the other thread thinks hollywood is trying to convert us all into Jews, Satanists and Pedophiles. He hasnt mentioned LGBT...yet.

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[–] thebombinireland 8 years ago

its funny no one has complained that this show has converted him into a serial killer, or a vampire for that matter :D

[–] danloki 8 years ago

Hannibal converted me into a gourmet foodie.

[–] cat_sidhe 8 years ago

Uhm...tv and film have carried all kinds of messages, some political, for...well...since the beginning of film. A bit late to start throwing a tantrum about it now.