This is a serious post. Thinking back on Hotel, and knowing what I know now, there's a lot of very disturbing symbolism with how the stolen vampire kids were. Knowing the way Gaga is connected to that messed up artist that's in with Podesta and CO, and with Gaga probably exercising a fair amount of creative power in the process of making that season of AHS, I find it even more revolting to think back of the pedophilia symbolism in that season. Or do you think I'm out on a limb here? The show would probably defend itself saying it's nothing but dark motherly love, which I personally would not buy. These are some very sick people involved by proxy.
You're not out on a limb at all. Ted Gunderson was the director of the FBI Andres when he retired he dedicated his life to finding missing kids and he uncovered that the CIA operates the drug and sex trafficking rings. Look him up.
The occult elite are full of pedophiles. Thousands of children go missing every month. Loom up Savile and the British royal family.
Gunderson had an association with music producer and conspiracy theorist Anthony J. Hilder and was interviewed by him on various occasions. The two men appeared at numerous conferences together.[12] They both said that the 1993 World Trade Center bombing was a result of FBI agent provocateurs.[13]
I don't buy conspiracy theories much, but to be honest with you, the whole PizzaGate pedophile ring thing has given me pause. There is SO much in the way of detailed and deliberate evidence out there that it does cause one to think twice.
Now, I don't support the linked web site, but the article posted there is worth at least looking at. The sketches and photos are striking:
Like I said, ignore the source. The source doesn't matter in this case, just take a look at the material and use your own logical mind to process it. I don't care for conspiracy theories or fringe, agenda-driven news sources much, but then again, the mainstream media is biased and agenda-driven as well.
Still, just take a look at the article and consider it. But pay specific attention to the sketches and the photos, and apply context to it. I'm not telling anyone to believe Pizzagate is real, I was a firm skeptic when I first heard about it, but after reading a TON of things (not just the Daily Sheeple, I just grabbed that link off of Reddit) there was enough there for me to at least take a second look at it.
Again, not trying to convince anyone, just telling people to look at the material and see if they think there's something more there than just wild accusations.
Here is a graphic that summarizes "Pizzagate". Again, all I ask is that people keep an open mind. If they look at it and reject the possibility of something going on because of real, honest review, then that's fair. If, however, it makes you think that there MAY be something there, then you may agree with me and fall somewhere between the "this is bogus" and "this is absolute truth" folks. I don't know if it's real, but I can't completely dismiss it after reading a lot more about it.
Like I said, I'm not swallowing this whole. I don't buy all of this conspiracy, but I do think that there is something there. It may be trivial, but it seems like there's too much coincidence for ALL of it to be nothing.
I thought mister offered his PoV really well also, Widly.
Still, I do not agree with trial by social media, so unless charges are ever laid I wont be thinking any more than it's a conspiracy theory. Seriously, the real cruncher here is the rumour was started by Trumpty Dumpties on the net during the most watched US election campaign to date. I think Hillary, like most politicians, is a sociopath but she abducts kids then molests and kills them in the cold room of a popular family pizza place? Too much. Just too much. Long bows were drawn in this cyber 'investigation'. The other element that sticks in my craw is people were lifting photos of children off social media accounts where people had liked the restaurant, then posting them as kids who had been 'abducted for the pedo ring'. Utterly abhorrent behaviour. I also know someone who works in a task force so I will be calling today to ask if colleagues are discussing pizzagate and what they think. I shall report back.
I was responding to people acting like children. They didn't deserve my respect. Thanks though. You should definitely focus on the content and not shoot the messenger.
Fragile snowflakes and their equally fragile egos are definitely not my concern.
You're a pussy cat crying over spilled milk.
And if you don't care about Pizzagate find another hole to occupy. You're part of the problem and part of the reason people retain their ignorance, because you're way too self righteous and self involved to even ponder anything above your pay grade, and it's you sweetheart that misses the point entirely.
I don't gaf about your friends or either of your sensibilities.
Originally I was perfectly fine discussing this topic within the thread perfectly polite, but when your nitwit friends got involved by being totally defamatory to the subject matter and nuisance, who exclaimed they didn't believe the topic in the first place, but still had to sh%t all over the thread, well, as you or anyone without their head lodged up where the sun don't shine can see they entirely deserved a little reality check.
The way I talk to people, hon, is none of your concern.
Who was defamatory exactly? You defamed an actress and a showrunner of being involved with a pedo ring.
You're an angry little ant who jumps up and down for freedom of speech to say whatever you want on the net yet tries to shout down anyone with a different PoV. Wake up to yourself. Interesting that I hadnt even noticed you on the board before but you sure jumped straight into a conspiracy theory thread. What brought you to this corner of imdb I wonder.
and it's you sweetheart that misses the point entirely.
So what exactly is the point? See, I thought it was you and Wolfie trying to confirm a theory that the rest of us saw as not true. And because YOUR fragile ego couldn't handle that, you start being an @sshole and ignorant twat. But then again, that's just me.
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And to correct you ignorant people, yet again, because you're so self centered you can't comprehend something that isn't flying out of your behinds: first of all, Lady Gaga is not an actress; She could star in the next Steven Spielberg film and still not be an actress. So you're wrong there. Second of all, I didn't defame anyone, which shows how ignorant you are and careless when it comes to paying attention.
What I said was, Lady Gaga and Ryan Murphy are most likely practitioners of the dark arts, ie. black magic, astrology, spirit cooking (which has been proven, but you no-nothings would never admit it even if she threw semen, blood, and breast milk on you - look it up).
People who are sleep walking don't pick up on such things, because their too busy running to one of their fragile snowflake's aid, because they heard something they don't understand, and therefore it's wrong, and so being rude condescending f-faces is completely allowed just so long no one in turn treats them the way they act. Oh boo-hoo.
The one true response for people like you and your friends is simple; GET OVER YOURSELVES.
What I also find funny, is that someone who doesn't even believe in the topic of the thread, nor adds anything to this thread, gabrielianarmanm, has made more posts than anyone else, yet has absolutely nothing of substance to say.
I particularly liked the articles psychologically profiling people who obsess over conspiracy theories. I dont know if I linked to it or not but one psychiatrist talked about narcissists with low self esteem.
I've made it my duty to refute people like you, like Dani and Wildy. Also, the only "substance" you've provided is spewing idiotic claims without evidence.
I posted TONS of evidence, but a subversive POS like you likes to make flippant claims like that thinking I won't back it up.
It's all there, twinkle toes.
All you have to do is connect the dots, but I'm sure that isn't an easy task for someone who can't find their way out of a paper bag. So I don't hold it against you if you feel lost, susie q.
And you don't have to take my word for it, even though you're only focused on me, because I know you could careless about the actual topic of this thread, which in fact is a valid discussion, because instead you want to focus all your energy on me, as if that's going to get you anywhere.
And you're actually evidence of the rash and uninformed citizen of the world whose more self involved and ready to defend their illogical points of offense so that you'll never have to face the big questions posed to you. Instead you ninny and prance around circling the topic, merely poking the bear, instead of checking out the info for yourself.
You'd rather criticize the topic and anyone discussing it, instead of confronting your own enormous ignorance that keeps your little reality as small as possible so that you can feel safe and secure and blissful. That's your bag, baby, I get it. I get you like the gum on the bottom of my shoe.
See you're petty people and petty people don't discuss big ideas or converse anything that isn't base.
If I thought you people had any chance of enlightening yourselves even for a moment I would have taken you seriously, but by your initial responses in the thread I already knew what kind of buffoonery I was in for. You're all so predictable and sad.
Either way. It's been nice seeing how right I am about you people who are so fragile they have tantrums if someone is speaking on a topic not sanctioned by them.
"Evidence". You mean things from the dark crevice of the internet? Job well done, Willy. I are very convincing.
And are you sure I'm the one having a tantrum? I mean, I'm not the one making rude remarks at people who don't believe in rumors spread on the internet. Oh well, live and let live I guess.
Interesting that someone so outraged by the pizzagate gossip called us 'boys'. I'm surprised he didnt call us an alleged code word from the menu, like 'hotdog'.
In all honesty, have you even read any news in the past 72 hours?
Because there have been articles that not only back me up but delve into the topics I discuss.
It's not my burden if you choose not to be an informed member of the human race.
I had no idea that the BBC news and Youtube to name a few are considered dark crevices of the internet. You must still roam myspace and use AOLnews as your homepage. Earth to, gabrielianarman, you can come out of the dark ages now. Don't be afraid. Google is your friend. Lol you see how stupid you make yourself look? Don't answer that, it was rhetorical. I know someone so self involved could never critique themselves. It would be like a normal person pulling the pin on a grenade and sticking up their ass. I get people like you, it's okay, you get the benefit of the doubt.
Now go along and play with your fellow snowflakes while people who actually have things to add to the conversation continue with their discussion. Alright (smiles?)
It's not my burden if you choose not to be an informed member of the human race.
Apparently it is seeing as how you're still here days later wasting your time trying to get people to believe the earth is flat and the sky is falling.
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Out of the hundreds of trolls I've dealt with on this board in the past six years, this "will" kid definitely has the absolute worst insults I've ever seen.
Now that the trash has been taken out let me put another clue into the pot luck.
Monica Petersen was recently found dead and coincidentally enough, even though I don't believe in that sort of thing, she was investigating the links the Clinton Foundation to child trafficking in Haiti, or of Haitian children.
This also closely resembles another researcher and potential whistle blower, Max Spiers, who had been investigating UFOs, Occults, and child Trafficking and Sex Trafficking rings as well. Before his untimely death he had sent a message to his mother asking her to investigate his death should he happen to die while on his investigation. When his friends found him they said that he was spewing a black substance from his mouth.
Another peculiar case that had caught the public's attention that also mirrors that last fact is the missing persons case of Elisa Lam, who was found dead in a water tank at the top of the Cecil Hotel in LA (which was an inspiration for AHS Hotel Cortez). They guests complained about a foul odor, and this is the part that plucked my ears, the water coming out oily and black, which to me is in close resemblance to the substance coming out of Max Spiers. A clairvoyant who did a reading of the Elisa and the Cecil said that they saw a being who was cloaked directed a beam of thoughts into Elisa's head, which caused her to kill herself. This also perks my ears, because it runs parallel to the occult and ufo investigations Max was doing.
Another investigator who happened to end up dead while on the trail of the Clintons and their ties was Andrew Breitbart who mysteriously died of a heart attack. The government i on record describing a weapon used for assassinations, which is basically a heart attack bullet. It's a frozen capsule of arsenic that can penetrate the skin, melts, leaves no trace, but then gives the target a heart attack so that the death is ruled natural. I bring that up, because not only does the government tout such a weapon, but Andrew's coroner also died coincidentally after doing the autopsy of a heart attack.
All these things correlate, and parallel towards a system where occult, politics, entertainment and publication congregate to create one large shadow system where such acts are part of this shadow culture.
Shows like AHS are allegories for what is happening in our world.
The pizzagate thing is merely another nail in the coffin. The elaborate connections made and exposed through the dump of these emails is prolific and should be dug through for those willing to wring off the propaganda being fed to us, but as always, should be researched with a grain of salt.
You don't have to search the "deep web", like some pandering idiots suggested, no. Places like youtube, bbc, reddit, twitter (even though those last two have been heavily censored), alex jones, RT, etc are all good places to start your inquiries.
I think it's pertinent that everyone keep an open enough of a mind to at least ponder these events and reflect without arrogance or flippant attitudes, because it really isn't just about us, the propaganda being fed to us is an of extreme importance, but even more, if these crimes are found to be completely true, there are human beings that this is happening to. That should be the most important factor in all of this.
The few investigators who I mentioned didn't just die because it was their time, there was something unsavory and criminal going on and their deaths were made to happen to cover someone's tracks.
Places like youtube, bbc, reddit, twitter, alex jones, RT, etc are all good places to start your inquiries
Wow.
I think it's pertinent that everyone keep an open mind
Trust me, I've kept an open mind and did a fair share of research on the matter. It's about being intelligent enough to sort through the undesirable "sources" and find actual evidence, which I did. You obviously haven't, besides speculation and drawing conclusions out of thin air.
And as far as Andrew Breitbart, that guy has had a beef with the Clintons ever since the beginning, not because he had something on them. Like Trump, he made up lies and theories that could easily be debunked, but that doesn't stop his supporters from spreading it everywhere online and making it seem true.
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I gave up as soon as I saw mention of a psychic reading. Hilarious. I wonder where he copied that from. No potty mouth diatribes so it cant be that troglodyte.
Speaking of psychic readings, are you going to watch Shut Eye on Hulu? I don't know if you have Hulu, but if you do watch that show starting December 7. It look so good.
I didn't really want to delve into this too much, but I know a woman who works with victims of human trafficking rings. She's in the medical field, and she provides free care to victims of these horrible crimes. She has spoken to me about it at length, and she tells me that the problem is HUGE in the United States, almost all of the victims she works with are American females, and that the problem is being swept under the rug.
This woman is legitimate, and she is a career health care worker. She says people think this is a third world problem (she thought the same before she started helping victims) and she came to find out that here (Florida), New York and DC have some of the most and worst incidents of human trafficking and child sex rings in the nation.
The problem is that the victims who "get out" don't want to talk about what happened to them. They often think they're at fault for it. They are completely embarrassed by being victimized. It is very unfortunate, and it is much more widespread, according to her, than most Americans realize.
There isn't a doubt in my mind there are people of high power that are involved with human trafficking, but THIS theory has been proven to be fake many times.
It's horrible that little kids have too go through this type of stuff and it's even worse when nothing is done about it, but spreading baseless accusations about people doesn't help the cause.
See, MISTERBFD, this is why I'm so impassioned by this very topic, and why I get so incensed when ignorant inhuman beasts make light of this very despicable industry that is cultivated right under our noses.
People would literally have their minds blown if they knew even a fourth of what your friend knows.
I do know that these victims don't want to speak out, because their afraid scummy people like wherethewildlingsare, danloki, gabrielianarman and their disgusting ilk will make fun of them and immediately judge them even though they are examples of some of the most ignorant people out there.
The Haitian people alone have been huge victims of the Clinton's and our indifference or ignorance is a slap in their faces.
I always think about girls like Natalee Holloway who was a victim of someone in Aruba, which in itself sends a red flag up, because I researched enough to know the Dutch are very, very involved with this trafficking of women.
Blonde American women are huge targets and as you say it's entirely swept under the rug.
Another recent case that has me irked and suspicious is the "Super Mom" case who was abducted, branded and let go on thanksgiving. That reminds me too much of the toy-box murders, and David Ray-Parker did the same thing, but he also has been quoted as saying he had others help and clients come play with his "new toys".
I do think there is a criminal underclass and overclass who use their connections or skills to prosper within the system.
The victims of these crimes are the real focus here.
My heart goes out to the woman and the family who just went through dealing with one of these crimes. The fact that they branded this woman and that no further details on the assailants has been revealed makes me think they criminals did what Ray Parker did, which was inject chemicals into the woman's brain to help her forget what happened.
I can take all these cases and information with a grain of salt, but it still doesn't feel right. There are connections to many of the topics that have been earnestly discussed here, and Pizzagate is really a prime example of how there is this underclass trying to get away with murder basically.
I'm not going to be a fragile snowflake that can't look at the big picture and truth of the matter. I'm going to speak my peace no matter who it pisses off. And especially if it pisses of weak minded buddy buddies on IMDB.
See, MISTERBFD, this is why I'm so impassioned by this very topic, and why I get so incensed when ignorant inhuman beasts make light of this very despicable industry that is cultivated right under our noses.
People would literally have their minds blown if they knew even a fourth of what your friend knows.
I do know that these victims don't want to speak out, because their afraid scummy people like wherethewildlingsare, danloki, gabrielianarman and their disgusting ilk will make fun of them and immediately judge them even though they are examples of some of the most ignorant people out there.
The Haitian people alone have been huge victims of the Clinton's and our indifference or ignorance is a slap in their faces.
I always think about girls like Natalee Holloway who was a victim of someone in Aruba, which in itself sends a red flag up, because I researched enough to know the Dutch are very, very involved with this trafficking of women.
Blonde American women are huge targets and as you say it's entirely swept under the rug.
Another recent case that has me irked and suspicious is the "Super Mom" case who was abducted, branded and let go on thanksgiving. That reminds me too much of the toy-box murders, and David Ray-Parker did the same thing, but he also has been quoted as saying he had others help and clients come play with his "new toys".
I do think there is a criminal underclass and overclass who use their connections or skills to prosper within the system.
The victims of these crimes are the real focus here.
My heart goes out to the woman and the family who just went through dealing with one of these crimes. The fact that they branded this woman and that no further details on the assailants has been revealed makes me think they criminals did what Ray Parker did, which was inject chemicals into the woman's brain to help her forget what happened.
I can take all these cases and information with a grain of salt, but it still doesn't feel right. There are connections to many of the topics that have been earnestly discussed here, and Pizzagate is really a prime example of how there is this underclass trying to get away with murder basically.
I'm not going to be a fragile snowflake that can't look at the big picture and truth of the matter. I'm going to speak my peace no matter who it pisses off. And especially if it pisses of weak minded buddy buddies on IMDB.
I read through that entire thing and now all I want is to eat a ton of pizza.
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When dealing with a snowflake one must entirely disregard their feelings, because a snowflake is 99% emotions and 1% water. Once their feelings have been ignored they will attempt to desperately make a point, but the fact they are triggered only allows them to sputter out in all attempts at being legitimate. No worry since the 1% water will quickly dry up after they've exhausted their very limited field of knowledge and lack of conversation skills. Soon they will need a cold glass of breast milk to heal their very raw and sore anuses. Soon the snowflake will evaporate and cease to exist just like their very hollow attempts at grown up conversation. And that's how you deal with fragile snowflakes (excuse me, your dear dumfuq friends).
You are a really brave person. I've had some struggles with anxiety and depression too, and they way you handle yourself is beyond incredible. I could have never stood my ground like the way you did. 👏👏👏
I'm so sorry you experienced that, my friend, and that a troglodyte has triggered you. Please dont leave the board. You've been a very welcome poster who is smart, and just really lovely.
Tex is cool. Lots of cool people on here so dont let one ass hat push you into an unsafe space, but yeah, if you feel easier taking a break please keep in contact with us via PM. I have felt a connection with you from when you first started posting. You're cool!
You didnt deserve anything he threw your way. You've only been here a short time but you've always come across as totally fair when discussing opposing PoV's with other posters.
The OP didnt stoop to the depths that other guy did. He's been revving up like nothing else.
Totally random and OT but just to make you laugh. Qrisp and Gabe know I'm totally arachnophobic. Two nights ago my husband and I were watching Westworld when suddenly a big black spider landed on my arm. Must have been in my hair or something. I jumped up and flicked it off then stared at him. He asked what was wrong and I told him. He asked what sort and I said a big hairy black one. He thought I just imagined it. Suddenly he screamed. I must have flicked it in such a way it landed next to his foot.
There is a lot of evidence of John Podesta being a weirdo, I mean have you seen the art he owns? They're very disturbing and sick, and they're all about children or cannibalism. Also wikileaks confirmed that John was involved in a spirit cooking (which was apparently satanic according to the artist's AMA on Reddit) but I don't see any evidence on a pizza place where you rape children.
I love Stephen Col-Bear. Miraculous feat that he can move his eyebrows independently like that. Must be a sign he's been to the basement which is situated at ground level.
I wonder where our tinfoil hat wearing friends in the thread disappeared to.
No need for apologizing. I read far more than one comment, even coming across one saying that Stephen was OBVIOUSLY a pedophile, and by the end I wanted to pull my hair out.
So any current news on this, Wolfy, or have all the trumpers on social media made up another conspiracy theory to run with? I hope you had a nice, relaxing, conspiracy theory free xmas. Happy New Year
I sent the colbert segment to someone I know who works in a pedo task force. She played it for the guys at work. They all laughed. I'm still laughing that Colbert said the police refused to investigate the basement...because there is no basement.
Exactly. There was also someone who said the pigs are green because Islam's flag is green. But then again so is Brazil's and Jamaica's. So maybe the pigs are Brazilians.