Do you think this movie is better than The Dark Knight?
If so explain why?
shareas a superhero movie, i think it's far better.
the dark knight may be a great movie, but it's a terrible batman film on multiple levels. first of all, batman is supposed to be the "world's greatest detective." when you were a kid and "pretended" to be batman, you solved crimes in the batcave at the bat-computer. hundreds, if not thousands, of chemistry kits were probably sold on this premise alone. rhas al'ghul even gives batman the honorific, "detective," and i believe this is where DC comes from--"detective" comics.
there is none of this in the nolan films. lucius is made into a q-like character. batman didn't figure out how to beat scarecrow's poison; lucius did. in bruce timm's iconic BTAS, ivy sprays him down with a poison that's supposed to turn him into a plant. she expresses shock when it doesn't work. he had found a sample, analyzed it, and came up with a counter on his own. that's batman.
without the detective element (amongst other things), batman is just some dude in a suit who knows kung-fu.
Funny you bring up Batman being a dude in a suit who knows kung-fu. I really enjoyed some aspects of the The Dark Knight trilogy. None of them were perfect, but the fight scenes/choreography were horrible.
That's what surprised me about CA:TWS were the fight scenes.
Batman has been fooled in the comics before.
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as a superhero movie, i think it's far better.
Except, this isn't really a superhero movie. Like many people have said, this is more like a Bourne-type action movie that features Captain America in it.
the dark knight may be a great movie, but it's a terrible batman film on multiple levels.
I guess you have enjoyed The First Avenger? If you did, then I can honestly say that your remarks towards The Dark Knight are laughable. The First Avenger is both a crappy film and a crappy superhero film. It completely misunderstood the character of Captain America.
There's a reason why nobody gave a flying *beep* about him before this movie.
first of all, batman is supposed to be the "world's greatest detective."
He's not. It's just a cool-sounding nickname that was given to him in the comics to make him look badass. If he is world's greatest detective, the Gotham should've been eradicated from crime long time ago.
when you were a kid and "pretended" to be batman, you solved crimes in the batcave at the bat-computer.
Eh...??? Well... I guess my imagination as a kid was not as good yours.
hundreds, if not thousands, of chemistry kits were probably sold on this premise alone.
What does it has to do with this?
rhas al'ghul even gives batman the honorific, "detective," and i believe this is where DC comes from--"detective" comics.
It's "Ra's", not "rhas".
there is none of this in the nolan films.
Were you watching those movies with your eyes shut?
lucius is made into a q-like character.
Which he was already in the comics?
batman didn't figure out how to beat scarecrow's poison
O my god... You mean the way it was in the comics?:
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lucius did.
Batman always relied on the help of others in the comics.
in bruce timm's iconic BTAS, ivy sprays him down with a poison that's supposed to turn him into a plant. she expresses shock when it doesn't work. he had found a sample, analyzed it, and came up with a counter on his own. that's batman.
How many times Batman have encountered Poison Ivy in the animated series? Like thousands times? In Batman Begins, he encounters Scarecrow for the first time. It's a smart way to display the fact that Batman is still only a human and he has to learn from his mistakes.
When he encounters Scarecrow for the second time, he already knows about his tricks and he cleverly turns his weapon against him.
That's Batman.
without the detective element (amongst other things), batman is just some dude in a suit who knows kung-fu.
Pal, Nolan's Batman was a better detective than any other version of Batman (outside the comics). He was doing detective work in all three movies all the time. When he uses marked moneys to expose mob machinations - that's a detective work. When he figures out where Lao have gone and how he can bring him back - that's a detective work. When he figures out in the matter of seconds that SWAT team is going to kill hostages that were dressed as Joker's henchmen - that's a detective work.
What the fuск you expect him to do to show his deductive skills? Does he have to walk around with a stupid hat on his head while smoking pipe, talking with a British accent like some Sherlock Holmes? I don't think you even understand what the word "detective" means. share
I completely agree, 'The Dark Knight' is a terrible Batman film, a terrible superhero film in general. I've said so many times to people that it's just a thriller movie about police chasing criminals and terrorists, except one of the police officers happens to be wearing a silly costume while doing it.
And I love Batman, I'll happily watch a film with him in it, but 'The Dark Knight' is NOT a Batman movie. It's a thriller about chaos and social norms being broken down.