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Is this the twist at the end?


The story of Rory and Dora really happened, but it happened to the author Clay. And that the Old Man never really confronted Clay on stealing his story, he just put that in to make himself feel like the original writer of the story he told would be okay with it, so on some level he could move on and not feel so guilty. When Clay and Daniella are kissing, he begins thinking of Dora, meaning he is still in love with his wife but the truth drove them apart. The last shot of Rory and Dora in bed and Dora assuring him that everything will be fine, is really just a happy ending Clay wished really happened.

Is this sorta right?

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The credits say in order of appearance and he's the second name after Dennis Quaid. I can't see him unless he's in the audience????

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That could be be I believe the whole rory story happened to clay including the old man

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I also think the old man could be Clay..

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Found John Hannah ...never would have recognized him!

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No.


Clay made everything up.

The key is in Olivia Wilde's last line, asking him if he's going to choose life or fiction.


Clay was a great author because he chose to live his entire life through made up words, and because of this he had no REAL life. He also couldn't let himself have Olivia's character, as she was a real woman.

- Just like the two characters that he made up also sacrificed everything for...

wait for it...


The words.

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And BTW, what a boring movie. Egads ........

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glad you think that. Doesn't make it so, though.

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cableaddict,

I just watched this movie for the THIRD time and this scenario hit me like a ton of bricks. I came here to see if anyone else caught this twist, in this manner.

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Clay made everything up.

The key is in Olivia Wilde's last line, asking him if he's going to choose life or fiction.

Clay was a great author because he chose to live his entire life through made up words, and because of this he had no REAL life. He also couldn't let himself have Olivia's character, as she was a real woman.

- Just like the two characters that he made up also sacrificed everything for...

wait for it...


The words.

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And BTW, what a boring movie. Egads ........


I agree with cableaddict's interpretation. And though it is not a much of a 'thriller', it is quite watchable, and therefore... not boring.

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Well I thought that Clay was Rory. So everything that happened to Rory, including meeting the old man, was what happened to Clay. But I get this might be too obvious.



Dumbledore: "Lily... after all this time?"
Snape: "Always."

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Zack: I think so. toward the end they talk about the fine line between life and fiction. he had said earlier that he was separated. so i thought that the reality was, he was alone and in despair, but the fictional ending is a bit sad, but uplifting.

I thought the three guys were all real: Clay Hammond wrote the story of Rory, who was an autobiographical figure of himself, who in turn plagiarized the story from the old man.

I didn't get it that hammond modified the story with the old man's meeting, to prove his legitimacy. I thought his other two novels were really quite good, but he would never think them good enough. I will watch it again to see if i get your version of the old man's meeting clay.

I really loved the music, too..

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so the whole movie is about a writer who writes a novel about a writer who plagiarises a novel about a writer who loses his child and his wife?

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Haha I think so, yeah ^.^

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I read everywhere about the ending and I'm really confused about the end..Does the old man really exist or is it just a made up character by Clay?

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the book is made up imo, if Clay was Rory and have pretended to have written the book really written by the old man then people would have been aware of the book when reading Clay's book. However one of Clay's early books he could have stole from someone else and claimed it was his. But the old man's story I feel was made up by Clay

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Well, I find this plot to be fairly simple. Clay is Rory, and this book he wrote is his only way to express without any possible serious repercussions what he had done. Clay and Dora probably couldn’t handle looking at each the same way after knowing the reality about those words.

And…. I think I have proof to back the fact that Clay could be Rory. There’s a scene in the movie in which you can see Rory thinking in front of the book, computer and other things in his desk. Just behind him, by the side of a few books, you can see two baseballs. One that has the appearance of barely having been used and another which seems very old and heavily used. When Daniela seats on Clay’s desk, she grabs a baseball which is seating by the side of another one. Those two balls are exactly the same ones that Rory always kept by his desk. Another piece of evidence is, when Dora seats on Rory’s lap to kiss him while he’s writing on his computer. During the scene, you can see their kitchen at the right. They have a white coffee boiler on top of their stove. In the scene when Clay goes down to get wine for him and Daniel, he goes by he’s stove and on top of it, theres that same white coffee boiler. And of course, can’t leave out the part when Daniela is looking at the books pages and finds a picture of a woman that seems to be Dora at an old age, about the same as Clay.

All that evidence plus the mysterious conversation between Clay and Daniela, point at the highly probable fact that after years knowing the reality about a book he copied, Clay found a way to tell everything to the world with a fiction cover up.

This movie was incredible and this are all conclusions.

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All that evidence plus the mysterious conversation between Clay and Daniela, point at the highly probable fact that after years knowing the reality about a book he copied, Clay found a way to tell everything to the world with a fiction cover up.


Exactly. You can come forward - you're the winner of this thread. 

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That's absolutely right qvin, and at the end when she asks him what he wants, he sees Rory apologizing to Dora.

He never met the old man. It's his consciousness. He doesn't know his name, but manage to find him far from the city, meanwhile the old man is living in a small room in the city.
As Clay says : "maybe the old man doesn't exist and he just see his own face". He feels guilty to live with what he has done. Also, he would have given him his manuscript instead of money when he decided to delete his name from the book.
and if we pay attention on the dialogs, it's obvious :)


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Just watched it and reading all the comments in the thread made me think that while it is plausible that the author in fact told his own story of plagiarism, the meaning may also be more subtle, as in: you can start doubting yourself and feeling like a fraud as part of a psychological process while trying to create something (a work of art, a story). Describing this process in a story about plagiarism and doubts and inner struggle kind of means describing the insecurities in the life of a writer or a creative person in general, thus showing the inner life of a writer, which is full of struggle with self and the environment.

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