To the OP:
You sound really ignorant with your "it's always the victim's fault" attitude. The thing is, nobody has the right to take advantage of you when you're drunk. A woman getting drunk and unconscious is NOT giving a man a free damn pass to do whatever the hell he wants to her body, as if she's a piece of property he can do whatever the hell he wants with (which she isn't.) That's the kind of fcked-up attitude toward rape that for way too damn long let men get away with it, and unfortunately, that attitude is still way too prevalent today. The fact is, there are men who specifically target women who get drunk just to assault them,because they know damn well she's in no condition to fight them off, or even think straight about what the hell she's doing. And being drunk also means that if she is assaulted, she won't remember everything that happened. Which is why half the time, if the women (or girl) is assaulted, she won't report it exactly for that reason,and blame herself. In fact,there was a documentary made a couple of years back called The Hunting Ground, which dealt with the issue of rape of college campuses, and how the authorities there preferred to sweep it under the rug, even after the women reported it. It was also much harder for the victims to get a rapist punished, especially if he was a major sports figure on campus and making the school big money.
Remember the Steubenville,Ohio and Brock Turner cases? In both cases, the victim was completely unconscious after drinking, and unable to consent to anything, yet, in both cases, the dues who assaulted them (who were also dudes just barely out of their teens) took complete advantage of that (I mean,hell, the dudes in the Steubenville case actually let someone film the assault on their phone,and then put it online, which is why their dumb a**** got busted---they deserved that.) There's also the sad reality that sometimes women also get raped by men they know and trust---it's not always the drunk stranger at a party or a club trying to hit on you. And there's also the fact that some men will go so far as to drug a woman's drink just to take advantage of her ( that's been happening for a couple of decades now---back in the '90s, there was one drug specifically used for that purpose, to the point where it was actually called "the rape drug" by the media. I can't recall the name of it right now.)
In The Hunting Ground, a former frat boy actually admitted that on the college campus he was on, he and his boys would specifically single out girls that were near drunk or looked like they were possibly alone---in other words, they would deliberately set out to prey on the ones that seemed the most vulnerable. (In the film, at least one or two men admitted to being assaulted themselves on campus, and getting the runaround/cold shoulder, just like the women did, from the authorities after reporting it---one of them said he was even told flat-out that there was nothing that could be done about it,and to just move on.) Currently there are two rape cases going on in Michigan that involve college athletes---one with 3 men being accused of the crime, and another one in which the college athlete alledgedly told his victim not to report the crime. Here's the first one:
http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/College-Football/2017/02/16/Warrants-sought-in-Michigan-State-University-football-rape-case/1111487262483/
And, hell yeah, of course women should take precaution and protect themselves in certain situations, or remove themselves from those situations if they feel uncomfortable about being there. The thing is, the onus is always on women to protect themselves from being assaulted. Young teen boys (and young men) also need to to be taught from the get-go that a woman's body is not their public property to do whatever the hell they want with whenever they want,and that they are entitled to it, and that consent is always mandatory,period. Plus teenagers don't make any common sense decisions or use common sense half the time anyway, especially when they're drunk and want to fit in with their friends so bad. That still sure as hell dosen't justify them getting sexually assaulted in any shape,form, or way at all. There's also a Netflix doc film called Audrie & Daisy, which is about two women who were sexually assaulted (one by a family friend) as teenage girls and the terrible fallout they had to deal with in the aftermath.
Here's an article about the show I thought was worth sharing---it does have some spoilers, and there are more articles on the site about the show and the issues it deals with:
http://thoughtcatalog.com/emily-madriga/2017/04/other-people-arent-responsible-for-your-mental-health-why-13-reasons-why-is-pretty-much-bullshit/
I have yet to see 13 Reasons Why, but apparently it's touched a nerve with a lot of people concerning the subject of sexual assault and suicide, so I'll check it out. Here's an interesting article
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MyCousinMose (86)
8 years ago
The girl in the "Steubenville rape case" put herself in a pretty bad situation. Obviously its still her rapists fault but when you go to a party with a bunch of people you don't know and get wasted to the point that you can't stand up, you have put yourself in a very dangerous situation. Do the rapists deserve jail or death by hanging? Absolutely. Did she do something stupid that put her in a situation to be raped? Absolutely.
And Brock Turner never raped anyone, he met a girl at a FRAT PARTY, danced/ made out with her there, both of them got ridiculously wasted and left together to go to his place to have sex (or maybe to play monopoly). Well they never made it there, public sex is a real thing. They started having sex, she passes out and soon after 2 guys stumble on them and think they have walked upon a rape, and then everything gets blown way out of proportion. She had a boyfriend at the time so obviously the slut is going with the rape story.
As for the hunting ground, I've never heard of it. Were these guys singling out drunk girls and then raping them or just finding drunk girls to have sex with? Cuz thats what people do at bars and frat parties, and the girls who get wasted at bars are often looking for a guy (or guys) to have sex with.
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