Deadline new projection is 92 million for 54% drop.
It's not a bad hold but it's not fantastic, either.
Better than AOU but not as good as Wonder Woman or Avengers 1.
It's not a bad hold but it's not fantastic, either.
Better than AOU but not as good as Wonder Woman or Avengers 1.
Studios live on money as in $$$ not percentages. 54% of 202M is still a lot more than 43% of 103M.
shareTrue. But there are some that are saying this movie has holds that "have never been seen before" and that is far from the truth.
shareThere will always be groups that are overly excited about any movie. It's too soon to say stuff like that about a movie that's been out for only a week. Truth be told it was an impressive week if you take into consideration this is February we're talking about and not summer/Christmas time, and a relatively obscure character. Better wait and see, projections were way off the last weekend.
shareGood advice, moviefan!
shareTrue. But there are some that are saying this movie has holds that "have never been seen before" and that is far from the truth.
^^^
come on, do better than this queen....
my "have never been seen before" quote, was directed at BPs Sunday and Monday Holds....Which were HISTORIC...I did not or have not claimed Black Panther Will continue to ""have never been seen before" holds...
I get that you are deeply anger and upset, I know thats why you intentionally hid from Saturday until Wednesday, I know that the Success of BP is KILLING you, I know you hate being wrong....
But you got to do better than just outright lying....
you just straight up decided to misquote my statement to try and make it look like I was wrong....desperate times call for desperate measures but again come on....
PS
look up BPs Sunday and Monday Gross/holds, This were Historic and Never before seen...
I shit on Queen as much as anyone,but I saw the same claim on multiple movie websites too. That might be what's being referred to.
share I shit on Queen as much as anyone,but I saw the same claim on multiple movie websites too. That might be what's being referred to.
^^^ no shes directly quoting me....
I specifically made fun of queen for saying BP wouldnt have Great holds by pointing out BP is having ALL TIME Never before seen holds....
It was a true statement, I was referring to BPs Sunday and Monday Gross and Holds....
Queen claim last saturday that Black Panther was already "Losing Steam" and Would have a HUGE Sunday Drop and MOnday Drop...
So I couldnt help but point out, Ya BP is really "Losing Steam Huh? Black Panther only had Never before Seen Sunday and Monday holds instead of Losing Steam Like you claimed Queen"
so ya shes quoting me....hilariously she doesnt realize I was right...but queens not too bright
Better than AOU
^^^^
well big of you to already admit you are wrong queen.
lol it was just lastnight you said Black Panther would be "Lucky to" out gross AOUs domestic gross....which Implies you didnt believe Black Panther would perform even as well as AOU after Opening Weekend....
obviously you were DEAD Wrong
If you were right and Black Panther wasnt going to make as much as AOU, Then we would had seen it in the results and Black Panther would have had a larger drop than AOU, but as YOu said above "Better Than AOU"...which means youve clearly given up and excepted you were wrong about BP not topping AOUs domestic gross
Its quite BIG of you to admit that!
PS
do you find it even a little bit ODD or BIASED that you spent all last weekend relentlessly refusing to except "Early Projections" for Black Panther, Yet now you are the first to report the Projections?
I mean you spent ALL day Friday and Saturday, relentlessly saying "Nope theres no way they could possibly know what BP is going to make this early", this was of course a desperate and SAD attempt not to except that Black Panther was Massively over performing, you just refused to acknowledge or except that Early Projections were possible last weekend
Yet now, you are the one reporting them?
ODD>?
Strange?
Biased?
why has your stance so drastically changed in 7 days?
is it because last week BPs exceeded expectations to such a degree that It was TROLL PROOF and This week you see a sliver of space to troll on?
lol
PSS....
92 Million Is exactly where I said BP would be
again though you probably jumped the gun, BP has at every point come in ABOVE projections...Its entire possible and maybe even Probable that BP Will come in right at 98 to 100 Million When The Late Friday numbers come in in a few hours..BP could still absolutely come in right at Avengers 1 numbers and Holds....
of course that doesnt fit with your trolling but those are the facts....
PSSS
Actually A 92 Million + 2nd weekend is fantastic, Its ummm you know as much as Justice League Made Opening Weekend....
but its just good to have you back and FAILING again queen
the board just wasnt the same with you those 5 days you were intentionally hiding....
Keep up the good work...
PSSSS
Will you be the first to report the new projections in a few hours when Black Panther comes in Higher than whats being Reported now?
lol I bet a pretty penny you wont....
What do you mean that I see "a sliver of space to troll on"?
Elaborate, please.
Bill?
Are you there?
Has the CAT got your tongue(no pun intended) because of this weekend's projected drop. A tiny bit fearful it may even get worse?
Has the CAT got your tongue(no pun intended) because of this weekend's projected drop. A tiny bit fearful it may even get worse?
HUH>?
I know you have a hard time comprehending box office
but you can read right?
did you not read the part where I clearly said I expect The projections to GO UP?
I clearly stated I expect BP to go up to 98 to 100 M?
can you please explain how in your mind that means "I'm fearful it might get worse"?
Like I'm actually asking, How do you come to this conclusio, How else could I have possibly made myself any Clearer..Im 100% stating I expect projections to go up, then gave my Expectations of 98 to 100 Million
How on earth could you have Possibly mistaken that for Being FEARFUL of getting worse?
this is what I talking about...YOUR TROLLING DOESNT MAKE SENSE....you dont make sense....the things you say are so ODD....you have to be a CHILD....
What do you mean that I see "a sliver of space to troll on"?
Elaborate, please.
^^^^
what I mean is, While a 92 Million 2nd weekend is clearly Fantastic, there are ways to troll on it if you dont have any standards or are extremely "anger and Jealous" and have to troll to ease the pain
while BPs first weekend was so Astonishing it was TROLL PROOF....this is why you HID from late Saturday until Wednesday
Its clear what your stance going forward Will be, "The Sliver of Space to troll on" that you've found Will clearly be comparing Black Panther Holds going forward to Wonder Womans holds....
Of course you'll completely forget and never mention again that you Predicted Black Panther Wont Make as much as Wonder Woman Domestically, like always, Since Black Panther Easily exceeded your Predictions, You'll just Move the goal posts, now according to you it wont matter one bit that BP DESTROYED WWs domestic gross....from here on out, you non stop bring up that BP isnt having as Great of Holds as WW....
there is a HUGE problem with this tactic, but It wont matter to you...right now your so desperate and Jealous that You dont + wont care if this new tactic actual makes sense or not(It doesnt)
the Huge Problem is....Black Panther shouldnt have Holds Like Wonder Woman going forward....theres a MASSIVE Different between a film opening at 200 Million and a film opening at 100 Million
theres been 5 films open at 200 Million +..4 out of 5 have had 50%+ Drops in week 2...(The only film to have a Sub 50% drop in Week 2 is The Force Awakens, and Its Domestic gross is So beyond the numbers you literally have to through it out, it doesnt fit for any comparison, TFA, Domestically Performed like no film in history)
So the Problem With The Desperate tactic your clearly going to be taking going forward is..Sure BP isnt going to have the Holds WW had..but Black Panther Opened at 200 Million + and Wonder Woman opened at 100 M+....the 2 arent comparable..when I film Opens over 200 M, History has shown its almost impossible for that film to have a Sub 50% drop in week 2)
If Black Panther Opened at 100 Million and then had this 54% drop,,,,then by all means, it makes perfect sense to compare WW holds and brag about WW holding better....but The fact that BP opened Double what WW opened to, Makes comparing their 2nd and future holds literally Pointless(again You clearly wont let this bother you, at this point its all you have)
but the facts are BP opened over 200 Million....based on this history of 200 M openers...BP should have a 50 to 55% 2nd weekend
lol you clearly wont look at these facts...over the next few weeks...it wont matter that BP exceeded every single Prediction you made, It wont matter that Black Panther easily out grosses WWs 412 M that you claimed it wouldnt, It wont matter that Black Panther easily Out Grosses AOUs 459 M that you claimed it wouldnt, It Wont Matter that BP Will Easily passes 500 Million domestic like I said and you claimed wouldnt happen, It wont matter that BP ends its run over 1 Billion like I said and you claim wont happen
...Instead you've found you "Sliver", You wont care that it doesnt actually make sense, but due to the deep anger and jealous you feel, Youll spent the next month relentlessly saying "WW had better holds than BP"
did I elaborate enough?
basically what I'm saying is....due to the success of Black Panther that has left you BEATEN and BROKEN, you'll now Cling to this one fact that brings you some relief, while I and Others Laugh at you while you continue to repeat this one fact that doesnt actually makes....
PS....before you come back and try to say anything about BPs 2nd weekend not being fantastic.....may want to give this a look
Gitesh Pandya
@GiteshPandya
3h3 hours ago
Take a moment to reflect on this. At the US #boxoffice, #BlackPanther is well on its way to beating every solo super hero film from #IronMan, #Batman, #Superman, #SpiderMan, #CaptainAmerica, #Thor, #Hulk, #XMen & #Wolverine. The fans have spoken.
also since I "Elaborated"
care to do so yourself, care to Elaborate on this???
do you find it even a little bit ODD or BIASED that you spent all last weekend relentlessly refusing to except "Early Projections" for Black Panther, Yet now you are the first to report the Projections?
I mean you spent ALL day Friday and Saturday, relentlessly saying "Nope theres no way they could possibly know what BP is going to make this early", this was of course a desperate and SAD attempt not to except that Black Panther was Massively over performing, you just refused to acknowledge or except that Early Projections were possible last weekend
Yet now, you are the one reporting them?
ODD>?
Strange?
Biased?
why has your stance so drastically changed in 7 days?
is it because last week BPs exceeded expectations to such a degree that It was TROLL PROOF and This week you see a sliver of space to troll on?
Lol
Funny you should mention Gitesh.
She just had an update that this weekend will fall to mid-to-high 80's.
That's BELOW even your lowest prediction.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but...it is what it is.
Funny you should mention Gitesh.
She just had an update that this weekend will fall to mid-to-high 80's.
That's BELOW even your lowest prediction.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but...it is what it is.
^^^^
http://deadline.com/2018/02/black-panther-natalie-portman-annihilation-game-night-weekend-box-office-1202300998/
ALL TIME EPIC fail!
I mean Jesus talk about getting OWNED....
I predict Black Panther Will come in Above Projects, I specifically Say 98 to 100 Million....
you then Embarrassingly Post Early Projects saying BP is gonna be in the Mid 80s....then to completely makes it 1000X worse you Add....."That's BELOW even your lowest prediction.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but...it is what it is."
and what happens.....The Friday numbers comes EXACTLY where I said....BP went up to 101 Million....
I mean dear god you just got DESTROYED.
now to my other Point....YOU JUMPED the gun....hilariously you said " Better than AOU but not as good as Wonder Woman or Avengers 1. "
I specifically said, You Jumped the gun On The Avengers 1 and it would come back to bite you....look just a few posts up, I word for word said, Its entirely possible and Probable your going to be Wrong about BP not having Avengers 1 type holds. and like usual I was right, you were wrong
you just couldnt help yourself, you saw the 92 Million dollar projections and went saw RED and had to immediately post it and throw out "Its not having Avengers holds"....you couldnt wait the extra 4 or 5 hours for The Friday numbers to come in.
Instead you jumped the gun and made a complete ASS out of yourself and Ironically you gave me the chance and opportunity to LOOK like a genius considered I perfectly called and predicted exactly how this was going to play out....
the second I saw you made this post, I'm not kidding I smiled...because I knew it was going to backfire....
I knew BP was going to exceed the 92 Million Projects and I knew it was going to have Avengers 1 type holds
"I'm 100% sure projections are going up from 92 million."
Your oft-quoted Gitesh Pandya says NO...it's going down tonight...mid-to-high 80's.
"I'm 100% sure projections are going up from 92 million."
Your oft-quoted Gitesh Pandya says NO...it's going down tonight...mid-to-high 80's.
^^
http://deadline.com/2018/02/black-panther-natalie-portman-annihilation-game-night-weekend-box-office-1202300998/
ya but because I'm Smart and understand box office I waited for The REAL numbers to come and confirm I was 100% and BP did in fact go up to the exact numbers I called....I specifically said BP would rise to 98 to 100 Million....guess what?
BP came in at 101 Million
Nice try though...I'm sure you had a few hours of happiness thinking Black Panther was coming in in the 80s....Unfortunately the short lived happiness is now replaced with more Pain and Jealousy from you making a complete ASS out of yourself and jumping the gun....
PS nice call out BP not having Avengers 1 type holds.
In my first reply in this thread, I told you, you jumped the gun and it was going to come back and bite you....but you just add to Through out "NOT better than Avengers 1"....
once again your complete lack of understanding box office came back to KILL you....
if you had any understanding of box office, you would have never made this thread and never said " Better than AOU but not as good as Wonder Woman or Avengers 1."
you just didnt comprehend whats been happening....at every single point during BLack Panthers run so far..It has came in higher than Projections...
Thursday, Projections were 22 Million...The actual numbers came in at 25.2 M
Friday, Projections were 69-73 Million...The actual numbers came in at 75 M
Sunday, Projections were 192 Million OW...The actual numbers came in at 201 M
Monday, Projections were 33 Million...The actual numbers came in at 40 M
you didnt understand, It was almost a CERTAINTY that Black Panther would come in above the 92 M projections..
there was a clear and Obvious Pattern here, and somehow it completely flew over your head...
Black Panthers 100% rate of coming in above predictions somehow flew over your head and you didnt give this pattern even a moments thought be for making this thread....
You literally Jumped the gun and made a thread that was DESTINED to fail....
had you even considered for a second that Black Panthers pattern of coming in Above projections could continue and was probable that it would also come in above expectations in its 2nd weekend too, you may have not made this thread a saved yourself a lot of embarrassment....
Instead the thought never crossed you mind and now you look like An Idiot....
iin your own words....I hate to "Be the bearer of bad new"...But I turned out 100% right about every single thing I said....and BP ended up having Avengers 1 type holds...
there are no words to describe just how badly you Failed this time queen...
Hey queen just curious....I know it takes you a long time to comprehend box office but has it hit you yet that A 500 Million + domestic gross is guaranteed?
With A 101 M 2nd weekend, that puts BPs total Domestic gross at 393 Million....
lol
now stay with here, about 5 days ago, You werent sure BP would even Make 300 M domestic....3 days ago you didnt believe BP would out gross Wonder Womans 412 M, Yesterday didnt think BP would out gross Age Of Ultrons 459 M....
It has to be hitting you now right, at this point you can finally comprehend AOUs 459 M is Done right....
but the real question is, do you understand box office enough to tell yet that 500 M + is guaranteed (Just as I said 1 day after it opened)
for perspective....AOU made 143 Million after its 2nd Weekend....thats means If BP performed just liked AOU, BP is going to finish with 530 Million +.....
but that wont happen, because BP is performing like The Avengers 1, way better than AOU....
So that means Black Panther is gonna make at least 550 to 600 M+ domestically
do you comprehend this yet? or are you gonna need another week for it to hit you...?
Well turns out I was right again.....
The "Bearer of Bad News" called it doubly right this time....
First I Nailed the fact that BP would come in above projections at over 100 Million making this thread An Epic failure and proving you completely jumped the gun....
and second I perfectly called that you would not "Immediately jump out a be the first to report these new results like you did with the 92 M results"
lol you spent All last week, All day Friday and Saturday relentlessly claiming Projections couldnt be counted on, that it was impossible to know how much BP was going to make that early, you just absolutely refused to except Early projection were possible last week....Yet just 7 days later you do a staggering stance change queen....Yesterday, YOU are the FIRST to report early projections, you not only report them , you create an entire THREAD to report the projections.
ODD that last week when BP was exceeding all expectations, you refused to except Projections, Yet Yesterday when you thought BP was coming up short you were the first to report them....
anyway, Like always I knew you were going to be wrong, I knew BP was going to come in above projection and have a 100 M + 2nd weekend....So I posed a simply question to you...."Will you also be the first to report the newest projections when they come in and have BP over 100 Million"
like always "The Bearer of Bad New" called it perfectly....you did not report these new results, Instead it seems you've gone back into intentionally HIDING again
PS good call on BP not having Avengers 1 type holds....technically you were right.....BP is having BETTER than Avengers 1 holds....
lol The "Bearer of Bad News" also called that too...In my first response in this post, I told you you jumped the gun, that it was entirely PROBABLE BP would have Avengers 1 type holds when the actual numbers came in....but like always you didnt understand or comprehend box office resulting in An ALL TIME failure of a thread
Well, I always believed the "Bearer of Bad News" was Queenie, not you. He/She is the one believing his "less than expected" projections are bad news for the rest of us...
shareYa I'm considering changing my name to Bearerofbadnews....
lol lets be honest at this point I'm just ruining queens life....
his/Her "Bearer of Bad news" quote was directly at me when queen thought BP was having a 2nd weekend in the "80s"...Its only fitting I in fact become the true "Bearer of Bad News" for queen by reporting the actual numbers of 100 Million +
I'm almost positive we wont here from queen for another 5 days....last week queen went into intentionally hiding and Avoided the BP board from Late Saturday until Wednesday....
after making a thread that failed this badly...I see no reason why queen wont go into hiding again....
but it was just nice having queen back for awhile even if it was short lived, Queen was back for 3 days and gave us the ALL TIMER of a failed thread....
This thread is a gold mine. Queen and billbrown never fail to entertain. -48% at the moment which is better than the Avengers 1 drop(-50%). The drop is good. \o/
Bill?
Are you there?
Has the CAT got your tongue(no pun intended) because of this weekend's projected drop. A tiny bit fearful it may even get worse?
Another Queenie delusion collapses: $108m! http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/
shareWhat happened to boxofficemojo's 120 million projection?
It "collapsed", I guess?
Let's be fair here, you started this topic with the Deadline's 92M projection and in reality BP's 2nd weekend was significantly better. Now you're bringing an estimate that's almost 30M higher than your initial prediction just to make 108M sound like a failure. Don't forget it's still Sunday and the weekend actual could go up or down, what if it goes up like the week before and matches/succeeds the 120M projection?
shareI brought up the 120 million projection only because Satan had posted that the other day and told me to "shut up and listen to the big boys".
Well...the "big boys" were way too optimistic it seems.
120m is 11% high but 92m is 15% low. You lose!
shareYou really need to stop being so disingenuous.
Here we have a case of a single site that estimated a bit high... not "way too optimistic", but a bit high. It looks like that, by the time the finals come in, that projection will be off by about $10-million. That prediction was the outlier, and most sites had this second weekend in the $90- to $100-million range and, lo and behold, that's right around where the numbers will end up (and are actually low).
And yet, of all the posts regarding this weekend, and all the responses to all of the other BS you've posted about this weekend, THIS is your one reply? The one case where a site went high, but was still no where near as off (on the high side) as YOU were, on the low side.
Why did you never come back and reply to any of the posts responding to you, last weekend, where you were only off by a mere $80- to $100-million dollars? Why are you not back in the threads about this weekend where you were insinuating that BP was going to do $80-million or less this weekend?
I'll tell you why... you are an instigating, pathetic coward. You will never admit or reply in any situation where you are wrong yourself, but are more than happy to show up and point out the ONE case where someone else may have been off on the POSITIVE side. Why are you not responding to anyone pointing out how you were wrong on your negative projection? Your ONE post is to someone who was a bit over-optimistic? Get some help, man... your world view is so screwed, I would hate to walk a single minute in your world.
Hey queen what happened to those projections in the "80s" you were quoting and so happy about....
lol hey Queen remember when I predicted A 2nd weekend between 90 to 110 M, and You thought I was going to be wrong?....good times
PS....Did you really just say "It Collapsed, I guess"......
to be clear, were talking about the 2nd best 2nd weekend IN HISTORY.....A film that had A Sub 50% Hold, A film that did exactly what you claimed it WOULD NOT DO and not only had an "Avengers 1 Hold" But A Better than Avengers 1 hold....
and your response to this is "It Collapsed, I guess"...
queen there are times when Trolling becomes impossible, worse There are times when Trolling become Hazardous to The TROLLER....
With Black Panther we are at that point, at this point TROLLING can only make YOU look bad Not the film
again you may have thought "It Collapsed, I guess".....was a clever Trolling tactic, But at this point it ONLY makes YOU LOOK BAD and Delusional....
I get that you are in deep PAIN, but you can not TROLL on Black Panther and be taken seriously....
At some point RESULTS have to matter....If you troll on Black Panther you are proving that RESULTS WILL NEVER AT ANY POINT MATTER to you....You like to give Box office predictions(your terrible at it) but you like to give them, you did it with JL,Thor 3, TLJ and Now BP....
but theres no point in giving out box office predictions If no matter what THE RESULTS are, Your stance WILL NOT CHANGE...
BP results are so overwhelming there is ONLY 1 possible course of Action.....You have to admit YOU WERE WRONG.....and that goes for EVERYONE....
even the people that excepted it to do good, They were WRONG...evenyou if thought BP was going to do Great, NO ONE EXPECTED this....
you are on the other end, you thought BP was going to disappoint, make 125 M OW and struggle to make 300 M domestic....YOU WERE WRONG....
Everyone was WRONG....I can admit this, Other can admit this, Why can we admit this? because RESULTS matter to us....
We see the RESULTS, and recognize them, WE cant ignore them....
WE gave our predictions for Black Panther to see how close we would get, to see the RESULTS and see if we were right or Wrong....
In the case of Black Panther Everyone was Wrong.....If you thought it would disappoint, You were disastrously Wrong, If you thought it would do Great, You were Wrong, It did better than even your wildest predictions....the RESULTS matter queen...
If you choose to TROLL on Black Panther....you are proving you dont care and will never care about Results....
"It Collapsed, I guess".
^^^the Delusions it takes to make this statement is beyond anything I've ever seen in my 7 years + on these boards...
this statement is so absurd, so not even in the realm of REALITY, the second you made, you gave up in rights to ever be taken seriously again
120m is 11% high but 92m is 15% low. You lose!
^^^
Lets also Not forget in queens post, he/she directly stated "BP wont have Avengers 1 type holds"
BP ended up having better than Avengers 1 holds....
Queen Loses Double!
Actual is $111.66m, which is only 7% less than IMDb's projection of $120m.
This also the second best domestic second weekend: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/moreweekends.htm?page=2
Deadline new projection is 92 million for 54% drop.
posted 2 months ago by QueenFanUSA (747)
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It's not a bad hold but it's not fantastic, either.
Better than AOU but not as good as Wonder Woman or Avengers 1.
Ouch...
share[–] QueenFanUSA (806) 6 months ago
I really think you underestimate the box-office draw of the DCEU. There is nothing to indicate that JL will not be the box-office smash that BvS, Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman were. Also, early indications are that it will also be more favorably received by critics than B'S and SS.
No way that this doesn't make major bank. I will be shocked if JL doesn't outgross TR(especially domestically).
QueenFanUSA (806) 6 months ago[–]
That is way too low. The domestic OW will be much closer to $150 million than $100 million. RT scores do not affect the DCEU that much. Two words...Wonder Woman. The goodwill and popularity of that film will power this above Suicide Squad for sure.