Dangerously high expectations being pushed by the industry... - Black Panther (2018) Discussion

[–] DracTarashV2 (4493) 7 years ago

Oh hey, Queen. Still recuperating from your disastrous Justice League and Thor: Ragnarok predictions (wishes)? Hehehehe.

And The Last Jedi, the second best earning Star Wars as well as currently the 9th highest grossing film of all time (in spite of the backlash from many zealots), a financial disappointment for Disney? Let me guess, it failed to make anywhere near as much as the cinematic event that was The Force Awakens? That’s cute.

Anyway, talk to you when Black Panther, a film already being raved about and is outpacing every superhero movie before it in ticket pre-sales, meets these “dangerously high” expectations. You and your fellow totalitarian anti-Disney/anti-Marvel weasels ain’t bringing the Mighty Mouse and this film down, son.

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3379) 7 years ago

The Last Jedi was indeed a financial disappointment and is routinely reported that way by objective journalists and industry observers. It's not a failure by any means but it is disappointing and demonstrated very little staying power which doesn't bode well for the franchise going forward.

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[–] kuku (3510) 7 years ago

And The Last Jedi, the second best earning Star Wars as well as currently the 9th highest grossing film of all time (in spite of the backlash from many zealots), a financial disappointment for Disney? Let me guess, it failed to make anywhere near as much as the cinematic event that was The Force Awakens? That’s cute.

When adjusted to inflation, Last Jedi is in the lower part from the Star Wars franchise.

The big earners are the original three ones, Phantom Menace and Force Awakens. The lower earners are both episode II and III, Rogue One and Last Jedi.

Last Jedi is doing close to episodes II and III, both ones after the big Phantom Menace letdown and before retro became trendy (Stranger Things and all that stuff). It's not doing bad (Star Wars after all), but is should have done much better. And even worse: it has damaged the brand at its very beginning.

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3379) 7 years ago

Great post, kuku...very true.

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

Oh,really? Says here that's it's selling more advanced tickets then any other superhero film to date, it's got positive word of mouth, and it's expected to really break big box office wise, because it's something unique and different. I will be there to see it myself on opening day if I can.

http://www.indiewire.com/2018/01/black-panther-advanced-sales-fandango-superhero-films-1201923673/

Of course, you haters don't want to give it a chance because it's about a black superhero, but the hell with all of y'all---it's gonna break big.

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3379) 7 years ago

I'm going to see it too! I'm just warning about the expectations being so high that if it doesm't break records it's going to be looked at as an "underperformer".

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

The thing is, the film's already getting major good buzz from pre-screenings, so that's a good sign that those expectations will be met---simply because, let's face it, it's something that's way different from the usual predictable norm of superhero films, and apparently, some fans have been looking for there to be a film about this character for years. Plus, it's coming out during Black History Month, so I gotta see it---I won't have any excuse not to, being black and all,lol.

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[–] ALurker (485) 7 years ago

I could see this film performing well like Deadpool this month.

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[–] NorrinRad (5468) 7 years ago

...that may be impossible to meet. Watch out Disney...you're being set up for another "underperforming" narrative a la The Last Jedi.

Well your countdown is soon approaching oh gloom and doom predictor.

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3379) 7 years ago

Yes it is...Disney rarely exceeds expectations with their films these days at the box-office. All of their films are super-expensive with lots of hype but in the end we see them barely crawl into profitability.

Take a look at Universal for a red-hot studio with massive profitability with low budget comedies, horror and animation.

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[–] billbrown7071 (3194) 7 years ago

Yes it is...Disney rarely exceeds expectations with their films these days at the box-office. All of their films are super-expensive with lots of hype but in the end we see them barely crawl into profitability.

^^

serious question, did you at any point think before making this comment?

next serious question, when you say "Disney films barely crawl to Profitability"..you are aware Marvel Studios and The MCU films are apart of Disney right?...the only reason I ask, Is I just cant imagine you possibly making such An Absurd statement if you knew The MCU films are apart of Disney

Hilariously, there is A Clear RECORD of the exact Profit Disney has made on most the the MCU films and The Profit they made Is MASSIVE.

you clearly must be thinking Marvel Studios is NOT a APART of Disney right? your not actually dumb enough to STATE as fact Disney barely crawls to profit of MCU films right.

now to further Obliterate you, here is a record of the Profit Disney made on MCU films(again I find this hilariously, you embarrassing tried to troll, and put out A troll state in "Disney rarely crawls to Profits" but FAILED to realize there is A Clear record that 100% Proves your troll statement false, Its literally like you were reverse trolling and intentionally made a statement that could 1000% be proved false)

Record of Profits from MCU films-

Iron Man 3- Disney Made 392 Million Dollars in Profit-http://deadline.com/2014/03/gravity-iron-man-3-profit-most-profitable-movie-2013-703396/

Thor 2-140 Million Dollars in Profit-http://deadline.com/2014/03/frozen-thor-dark-world-monsters-university-profit-most-profitable-movies-2013-701699/

GOTG-205 Million in Profit-http://deadline.com/2015/03/guardians-of-the-galaxy-profit-box-office-2014-1201391217/

Captain America 2-166 Million In Profit-http://deadline.com/2015/03/captain-america-winter-soldier-profit-box-office-2014-1201390799/

Age Of Ultron-382 Million In Profit-http://deadline.com/2016/03/avengers-age-of-ultron-profit-2015-box-office-marvel-universe-1201725562/

Ant-Man-103 Million In Profit-http://deadline.com/2016/03/ant-man-profit-box-office-2015-marvel-paul-rudd-1201723544/

Civil War-193 Million in Profit-http://deadline.com/2017/03/captain-america-civil-war-box-office-profit-2016-1202053411/#!

Doctor Strange-122 Million In Profit-http://deadline.com/2017/03/doctor-strange-box-office-profit-2016-1202050530/

GOTG2,Spider-Man HC and Thor Ragnarok Profits have not been released yet, but its a 100% certainty they all made between 150 to 250 Million in Profit.

Now, just to further illustrate Just how Impressive these profits are....lol....lets take a look at WBs + The DCEU films profits, Lets see how much WB made in Profit

Man Of Steel-42 Million in Profit(UMM, "All of their films are super-expensive with lots of hype but in the end we see them barely crawl into profitability".....lol sounds like you were perfectly explaining DCEU films and WB instead of Disney)

Batman V Superman-105 Million In Profit-(Umm, Spend upwards of 400 Million + on BvS and results in 100 Million in Profit, Once again "All of their films are super-expensive with lots of hype but in the end we see them barely crawl into profitability.".you perfectly described WB and The DCEU films)

Suicide Squad-158 Million in Profit-(A Good result but when you compare it to GOTG's Profit, WB once again Spent to Much on Budget which resulted in LESS profit, Both SS and GOTG are extremely similar, Both made nearly the same amount, Yet GOTG was much more Profitable, once again your statement of "All of their films are super-expensive with lots of hype but in the end we see them barely crawl into profitability." perfectly fits WB... http://deadline.com/2017/03/suicide-squad-box-office-profit-2016-1202052792/

Wonder Woman-Not released yet, But much like GOTG2,SPHC and Thor 3, Wonder Womans profit will surely be between 150 to 250

Justice League-At Best WB may break Even in a few years after Blu Ray sales and TV Revenue, at Worst WB will lose between 50 to 100 Million, Regardless, WB spent upward of 400 Million, and LITERALLY WONT EVEN CRAWL TO a profit, lol but may in fact CRAWL to A LOSS...

MOS-42 M
BvS-105 M
SS-158
WW- 150 to 250
JL - no profit or a 50 to 100 M Loss

At Best WB made 555 Million In Profit from 5 DCEU films, If JL loses money, WB made between 455 and 505 Million

lol Disney Literally Made Almost the exact same amount With 1 MCU film in Iron Man 3...Or Age Of Ultron or The Avengers....All 3 films nearly made 400 Million in Profit ALONE

Disney Made between $1.838 Billion To $2.138 Billion in Profit from the last 11 MCU films

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[–] billbrown7071 (3194) 7 years ago

ok so now that I've complete Obliterate your absurd "All of their films are super-expensive with lots of hype but in the end we see them barely crawl into profitability." statement....actually worse, I not only obliterate this statement by proving it was 100% inaccurate, but worse off, I actually proved the statement perfect fits and describes WB and The DCEU films, hilarious that in an attempt to make fun of Disney and Marvel you embarrassingly perfectly described WB and the DCEU films

Now to just put the final nail in The coffin....when you made the statement ""All of their films are super-expensive with lots of hype but in the end we see them barely crawl into profitability."...weve established you clearly must have been thinking Marvel Studios was separate from Disney, because theresjust no way you could be dumb enough to make that Statement With Knowledge that The MCU films are owned by Disney....But did you also Not Know or forget that Disney also Owns "Pixar" and current movies Cinerdella, Maleifcent,Alice 2,Oz The Great and Powerful,The Jungle Book and Beast and The Beast are all Disney Films and part of a "Franchise" of sorts where Disney is remaking classic Animated films into live action fanasty films...

Like I'm not kidding or exaggerating....Disney Literally has the 4 most Profitable Franchises going right now that are Literally Printing MONEY...that ALL have Many films and Many Upcoming films that All Making Massive profits on EVERY Film

1. The Marvel Cinematic Universe-17 Films deep, every films profitable, Many more films to come

2. Pixar-19 Films Deep-almost every film profitable-Unlimited films coming

3. Live Action Fantasy remakes-8 films deep-at least 7 upcoming films

4, Star Wars-3 films Deep-Decades of upcoming films

seriously...These are Literally the 4 hottest,most successful and most consisten movies franchise going right now and they are all under Disney

I've said this many times, but you have to be a CHILD, You can not be an actually adult making these statements...

"All of their films are super-expensive with lots of hype but in the end we see them barely crawl into profitability"

^ you can not make this statement if You literally thought about this statement for even 1 second....You either are a child who simply doesnt know any better, or your a deeply anger and jealous Adult and that NEVER even thought before making this absurd statement..

I've just went on a giant rant trying to properly describe the depths of your failures, I've provided 100% proof of just how profitable Disneys films are, how they Literally have the 4 biggest franchise going right now, How Disney's Marvel Studios Films are all Deeply Profitable and Specifically how Much more profitable they are than WB's DCEU films(that was the point of listing both The MCU and DCEU profits, to show its not exactly EASY to make Massive Profits on CBM's, but Disney does it every time without fail and does it is better than WB everytime Without fail, again that was the point of comparing GOTG and Suicide Squads profits, these are 2 extremely similar films, Both group films, both were released on the same date in August, Both made nearly the same amount in box office....

Yet GOTG and Disney made more profit than SS and WB(lol lets not even get into The Avengers and JL, why is that Disney can make Avengers films for Way less money and make over 1.4 Billion With each film , yet WB spends nearly 100 Million more on budgets and JL can even make HALF as Much as The Avengers)...These are 2 perfect example of 2 Studios making the exact same type movies, that played to the exact same Audience and have the exact same expectations, Yet one studios constantly makes The more successful films for Less Money....

I mean there truly in no better example than comparing GOTG and Suicide Squad and The Avengers and JL ...It perfectly proves ...They are the exact same films, made by 2 different studios Yet this statement "All of their films are super-expensive with lots of hype but in the end we see them barely crawl into profitability" ONLY holds true for WB

I've literally provided all this proof the truly makes you looks like the biggest idiot of the internet....and I'm still not convinced, I've done your absurd statement Justice....I still dont believe I've explained just how Epic of a fail this statement was ....but that may be the point, I'm not sure it is possible to truly grasp the depths of just how badly you failed with this statement

again...for your sake I hope you are a child...I hope you simply dont have the brain function yet to understand what you are saying...because if you truly are just an anger adult making these absurd statements....theres just no going forward for you, theres no hope

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[–] Burk48917 (11365) 7 years ago

Wasting your breath on Queeffan. Pathetic and untalented troll is all they are.

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[–] billbrown7071 (3194) 7 years ago

"Queef"fan

Literally chuckled out loud...So Immature, but so Funny

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[–] Burk48917 (11365) 7 years ago

I've dropped that one several times,but you are the first to catch it! Agreed,very immature,much like queenies posts.

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