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Looking back at Homeland ...


I don't know ... I like this show. From the Brody arc right down to President Keane, but there are such gaping holes in it that enjoyment that I felt watching it the first time fades when I think back on things.

This is a feeling I got mostly from this last season which started out kind of boring to me, and then picked up to breakneck speed and got very good and interesting, but ended ridiculously.

I started going back and reviewing the whole series, and there is not time here to go into all of that, but the whole thing about Carrie being mentally ill, bipolar as they call it is a deus ex machina, that is, it seems contrived to explain uncommon brilliance and yet not have it be due to the normal spying schlubs in the CIA that we all know are military political hacks pretty much.

They shook the character of Carrie to hard in all these seasons and I think they shook her apart, and made the fantasticality of her bleed all over the rest of the show.

They reduced Saul to an almost comedic character stumbling around always trying to best Carrie, and yet whenever he gets close to succeeding he finds that he needs her.

Maybe it is a temporary thing, but I am sadly feeling, over Homeland, and TV and video mostly. It is junk, much as I enjoyed the interesting twists and turns in Homeland throughout the years, it, and TV in general has gotten too political to ever say anything or to venture an opinion. Hollywood is not Liberal, or Conservative, it is whatever it needs to be to fool us into watching and paying - which in a way means it is more Conservative.

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I found Saul to be very sharp, eg recognizing it was Ante -> edit: Dante immediately

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who is Ante

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Sorry, Dante Allen (fbi guy carry slept with)

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Yeah, that was a good scene, how the light dawns on Carrie just then and how much of a fool she has been ... very scary stuff when you cannot trust your own mind and judgement, no wonder she crashed soonafter.

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I recognise elements of what you are saying. The show can be utterly stupid at times with storylines and characters making little sense. It is also very frustrating to see the protagonist and other "good guys" so often being completely incompetent and dumb. But still it amuses me and keeps me hooked. Just now I finished watching season 7 and after being utterly frustrated with the show for most of the episodes it still finishes satisfying enough to make me want to watch season 8. It could be so much better but I suppose that it does things well enough.

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Those last seasons I think are the best seasons because they seem like they are more realistic, a kind of close parallel universe.

There is a lot of crazy ideas in this show, probably the first one is that Carrie could exist at all, and be operating on the edge of the CIA, in the national interest, and want nothing for herself.

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Those last seasons I think are the best seasons because they seem like they are more realistic, a kind of close parallel universe.

There is a lot of crazy ideas in this show, probably the first one is that Carrie could exist at all, and be operating on the edge of the CIA, in the national interest, and want nothing for herself.



I still maintain that a crossover episode in which Carrie Bradshaw appeared woulda been a riot

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