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Anyone else angry that the movie is not really done in one shot?


I really liked the movie and saw the debates about it being one shot or not. I found an interview where the Directors mention that it is about 10 shots with hidden edits.

That really irritates me as I paid attention for cuts and there didn't need to be any. Sure, there are times when the screen goes pretty much black and there would be very easy for them to put a cut at those moments. Still that doesn't prove anything one way or the other. The film-makers could have lied and said it was one shot and I don't think they could have been proven wrong.

What is really frustrating is that it totally COULD HAVE BEEN done in one shot. There is nothing about the logistics that would have prevented that. Anyway I still like the movie but now I am disappointed that it isn't what I thought it was.

You can see my review that was written before I knew about the cuts here :

http://www.youdontknowjersey.com/2012/03/movie-review-silent-house/

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I was less disappointed by the fact that it was actually more than one take and more disappointed by the fact that it absolutely sucked balls.

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I agree with the above poster. it would have been a way more satisfying movie if there were two killers in the house and they did really blind her father, and she had to fight back with the only gun.

Maybe the dad is freed and has to use the gun while blind? Anything would have been better than the cliched ending they used.

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<< I was less disappointed by the fact that it was actually more than one take and more disappointed by the fact that it absolutely sucked balls. >>

Well, that's succinct : )

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I've seen this advertised here and there and being a huge sucker for scary films I decided to give it some research.. I was excited to see that the film was done in one take and then disappointed to learn it actually wasn't.

'The Circle' actually WAS done in one shot and it's got Angela Bettis from 'May' in the lead role which for me is another reason to see it. Definitely worth checking out if only for its technical merit.

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Why would you care?

Sure it might be a neat trick if it were a single shot but that would rank about 53rd on my list of why to see a movie.

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The reason why I care is that this movie WAS promoted as being shot all in one take despite what some other people have said in this thread.

In the weeks leading up to it's release, the IMDB was the leading source for information about this movie and stated prominently in the trivia section was the line :

'The entire movie was shot in one continuous real-time take, with no cuts from start to finish.'

Being that the IMDB is one of the largest websites on the internet, this information spread to anyone who was interested in seeing the film. But it turned out that this was a lie.

I don't know who was responsible for putting it up but the producers of the movie could have easily let the IMDB know and corrected it. I'm sure that they had no desire to do so in that it would have taken away the buzz that it generated. It wasn't until Sunday morning, the 3rd day that the film was out that that trivia line was changed to say that the movie mimics one take.

Yesterday I asked 12 people about Silent House. 8 of them had barely heard of it and didn't really know anything about it. But the other 4 were immediately shocked and disappointed when I told them it wasn't done in one take. They were under the same impression that I was.

The movie being shot all in one take is NOT a reason to go see an movie and it has NO affect on whether or not I think it is a good movie. Movies are about storytelling and I am looking for good plot, characters, acting, pacing.. etc. I actually liked the movie.

What was so interesting about the one take aspect is that it would have been an outstanding achievement. The first time I saw the film, I felt a real wonder and awe of what they had accomplished because of the extreme difficulty involved. When I found out the movie was not done in one take, it took away that accomplishment and that feeling was erased.

My question would be : Why wouldn't you care?

The achievements in the Guinness Book of World's Records many times are near-impossible achievements and that is what makes them so impressive. These types of accomplishments take great skill, practice, planning, concentration, patience & more to pull off.

Appreciation of these types of accomplishments is a totally separate and independent issue from whether or not the movie is good or not.

My initial question was not 'Anyone hate an otherwise good movie when you found out it wasn't really shot in one take?'. I completely agree with you that the one-take angle has nothing to do with my desire to see the movie or my enjoyment of it.

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The reason why I care is that this movie WAS promoted as being shot all in one take despite what some other people have said in this thread.

In the weeks leading up to it's release, the IMDB was the leading source for information about this movie and stated prominently in the trivia section was the line :

'The entire movie was shot in one continuous real-time take, with no cuts from start to finish.'


Bad information on the internet?

The Blair Witch project was marketed as a documentary. It is called marketing.

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It's called "lying".

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Interesting comment, you seem to have changed your mind a bit; in your thread opener you concede:

'The film-makers could have lied and said it was one shot and I don't think they could have been proven wrong.'

I think that was their intention - to keep everyone believing it was one take in real time. From what I understand it was Olsen who revealed they shot smaller chunks:

http://arts.nationalpost.com/2012/03/08/elizabeth-olsen-on-silent-house-and-why-shell-never-co-star-with-mary-kate-and-ashley/

Personally I was very impressed with the way they shot it, and thats not due to any bias or invested urge to champion the film; I was dragged to see it and went into the cinema thinking it would be crap. Based on the trailer I thought it was going to have many cuts, inept editing barely hiding them, subpar camerawork throughout and no scares making it generally pointless with a laughable 'hook' insulting the audiences intelligence. Instead I found the first half interesting and tense and engaging. It turned out to be a bonus that from a filmmaking perspecitive the 12 minute takes are impressive. As to your point that they could theoretically have done it in one take, I think that would be an irresponsible production decision.

Heres some examples of the logistics on a film with this type of crew which would make it untenable to even try to run through an hour and a half of narrative each time they turn on the camera:

1: Olsen or one of the other actors fluffs a line, they start again. We can assume that mistakes in performance, big or small, happened more than once along with mise en scene malfunctions happening around the actor, thats why blooper reels exist.
2: An actor forgets the blocking of part of the script and moves down the wrong corridor because they have too much to remember. Since its a mistake the camera operator needs to stop because they don't know where they should walk that won't clash with the actor if they correct their blocking and try to carry on per the correct blocking.
3: A hair or speck of dust rests on the lens which will be distracting if it stays there the rest of the film. Or the battery dies, of some of the crew believe something either is showing up in the background that shouldn't or isn't illuminated enough and they need to check rushes.
4: The door jams one of the times Olsen has to open it, or the plywood breaks or splinters when she tries to get out of the windows, or a flashlight stops working at a moment when darkness isn't in the script.
5: The boom operator lowers the boom accidentally into shot, or the sound team can't do their work because its untenable to prepare each room and choreograph where the boom operator[s] will come in and leave to always pick up the sound without picking up their own movements, lagging behind the room changes or being in shot. Equally in some takes the distant noises are not correctly choreographed and the recording equipment don't pick them up, meaning the actors can't react to those noises.
6: A special effect goes wrong in such a way that the visual evidence in shot is unconvincing, or disproves some part of the story.
7: An object in the general set dressing of a scene moves on its own in a way that ruins the scene.
8: An object central to the story has to be moved for the narrative and even though its offscreen for a period, crew can't make the changes because it would be picked up by the sound recordists dealing with a scene continuing nearby.
9: As the camera operator is moving around furniture to stalk Olsen, sometimes close, sometimes from a distance, they slip or trip on something in the set.
10: Make up effects can't be completed properly because of lack of breaks to alter the look of the actors despite bloodwork needing to look dramatically different over the course of the story.

Those of course are all things that can happen on any film but they would be more frequent on a project where everyone in every department has to do their jobs all at once, in order and with no mistakes even if the set ups of their jobs would normally take hours of preparation. People might put off communicating problems on set they might discover during a take in their own departments because their voices will get picked up by the ever running sound machines and because the director has no spare moment to listen to the problem that is about to ruin the shoot in the effects department, or continuity department. It would be inevitable that filming one take of something like this would stretch people until they were making thousands of mistakes, they could end up with hundreds of almost identical takes each with one mistake, leading to hundreds of hours of partially complete one take attempts that they would eventually edit together taking the best moments of all those takes anyway, making the attempt moot. Which in turn would mean they wasted a lot of time and money trying to shoot like they are working on SNL and not like they are working on a horror film with special time requirements, extending the shoot, exhausting everyone and still not achieving what they hoped for. The filmmakers would know this and if they were being honest to their financiers they'd have to admit it might take months of trying to get one perfect take, which would inevitably make any sane financier suggest they should the film the normal way in order to not waste money getting hundreds of practically identical footage.

As long take films go, theres no point comparing it to even Rope; the camera operator on Silent House is darting closer to Olsen, veering around corners, around furniture in darkened rooms, looking at the characters through furniture, getting on the ground, getting back up, changing focus in scene, adjusting to extreme changes in light exposure, getting into tight areas, running behind and ahead of Olsen and all the time choreographed well enough that they don't crash into each other, trip each other up or themselves. I'd love to know if they came up with a less intensive system for the sound recordists because to have 3 or more people running and darting close to each other would have been a nightmare for long takes. Getting 12 minutes would require a pretty good cameraperson to not show signs of fatigue in the shots. The lack of success of the film I think is firmly rooted in what the story ends up being, which is too cliche and underwhelming for twist savvy audiences. They should have tried to fix the narrative inadaquacies and forget about promoting the one take fantasy.

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In the weeks leading up to it's release, the IMDB was the leading source for information about this movie and stated prominently in the trivia section was the line :

'The entire movie was shot in one continuous real-time take, with no cuts from start to finish.'

There's your problem right there...you believe everything you read on the internet. You do know that IMDb is edited by outsiders, don't you? It's not like the producers of the film posted that. I can send something to IMDb and it can be added in the information about the movie.

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it doesnt depend on the size of the card, the 5d stops after 12 minutes.

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Well said 'therealman'.
It really is a little sad to get worked up about an illusion not being real.
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I am not angry or upset at all. I believe the movie works as it is.


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do you understand how unbelievably difficult it wouldve been to shoot an 85 minute movie in one shot.

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Yes I absolutely understand how difficult it would have been. Then you must understand my point.

I was blown away when I thought they had accomplished that and disappointed when I found out they hadn't.

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Can you imagine doing a WHOLE movie in one take?? It'd be cool, but just imagine an actor messing up 3/4 the way through the movie! They'd have to redo EVERYTHING. Or what if there was a technical difficulty? There are so many things that just doesn't make sense for anyone to even attempt to make a movie in one take.

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All the adds say "presented" as one take.... so... they basically tell you right there it's not one take.

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Yeah.. Rope wasn't really done in one shot. Russian Ark probably wasn't. Timecode was, wasn't it (4 times even!)? I don't remember, it was a boring movie. It's a neat device when someone like DePalma sets up a sequence as one shot but a whole movie as one supposed shot never works anyway.

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What makes you think Russian Ark wasn't? I"m pretty sure it was.

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