I wished Phelps didnt die... not sure how that helped the story by including it, but I'd wished to see the story further with Phelps and Elsa after all that casework xP
Did you like how it ended?
I still like the game overall though.
it was kinda funny. like.."whoop...there he goes!" XD
not at all like John's death in RDR, which made me feel sad for him.
I used to be indecisive. Now, I'm not so sure.
I thought the ending was terrible, along with the whole last third of the Arson desk.
The switch over to Kelso was sudden and clumsy and Phelps' character development lacked clarity and resolution (a load of background on the war, nothing with his family or Elsa except a cut scene and demotion that was shoehorned in).
Also, the overarching plot about the corruption in the property development, medical and law enforcement sectors of L.A.'s urban development fizzled out into nothing . . . there was no big reveal/piecing together of all the connected cases (again, a few clumsy cut scenes is all we get), where Phelps puts it all together and confronts the criminals, you know, like what happens in all the great mystery/detective stories. What about Roy Earl and that whole thing? He gets to give a heartfelt speech of lies and nothing happens . . . I know this is supposed to be realistic and gritty and not a happily-ever-after, justice always prevails kind of story – that’s fine, but there should have been some kind of resolution between his and Phelps’ character.
Overall, I found the ending to be wholly unsatisfying.
I agree, I mean the whole corruption thing just seemed to disappear. But for me i really didnt care all that much about phelps character. I didnt hate him or anything. i just didnt find him to be that compelling a character. John Marston i really felt sorry for his whole situation.
shareIt was a sad ending, but i kinda liked it. Phelps who was tormented about the whole undeserving war hero situation sacrifises himself in order to save Kelso who was the real war hero. As for the whole corruption thing, it was swept under the rug in a backroom deal between the commisioner and the assistant DA. Anyone who could provide credible evidence are dead, the rest get their pay day, the bad guys won in the end, just like in real life.
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shareI felt that with the sequel that has been talked about Elsa and Jack are gonna get together and with the way that Jack had Hershell and Elsa leave, he and Roy are gonna have a little chat. I don't think Jack will kill Roy but that he will make it abundantly clear that he knows the truth. Roy and Jack will have their conclusion in the next game.
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Horrible, very pissed off.
shareI thought that the ending was a good wrap up of the story. Although it was sad that Phelps didn't really get a happy ending considering his history, he did at least partially redeem himself in the end for his wrongdoings and we saw his growth as a character.
The switch over to Kelso was sudden and clumsy and Phelps' character development lacked clarity and resolution (a load of background on the war, nothing with his family or Elsa except a cut scene and demotion that was shoehorned in).I disagree. I thought the integration of Kelso was done very well (including him throughout the story in the newspaper clips) as his story was terrifically layered into the overarching story. I liked the background on the war and I didn't really care that there wasn't a lot of Cole's family given that they weren't essential to the story.
there was no big reveal/piecing together of all the connected cases (again, a few clumsy cut scenes is all we get), where Phelps puts it all together and confronts the criminals, you know, like what happens in all the great mystery/detective stories. What about Roy Earl and that whole thing? He gets to give a heartfelt speech of lies and nothing happens . . . I know this is supposed to be realistic and gritty and not a happily-ever-after, justice always prevails kind of story – that’s fine, but there should have been some kind of resolution between his and Phelps’ character.I'm glad that it didn't all connect together - that would have felt forced. Roy was sad to see Phelps go (he did give him a bunch of warnings about his safety), but he also got his comeuppances as well given that the big fishes he worked for were found out.
The ending was perfect.The people who are complaining don't seem to know much about Film Noir. These movie often end with the hero uncovering corruption and triumphing over the villains, but in the end corruption continues. Did you not remember the scene before the final battle where the ADA and the Chief of Police basically started negotiating? They knew that the lid was going to be blown of the suburban redevelopment fund and basically made some sort of deal that they would throw Monroe under the bus and the department and probably the Mayor would come out clean. This was a pitch perfect Film Noir ending. I would agree with others that it was weird to play as Kelso for that whole part, but that was the best part of the game because it most captured the Film Noir feel that the game was obviously trying for.
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...just so long as Hershel and Rusty survive and make it to the sequel. The arson and homicide partners were the best characters by far.
More of them please, Team Bondi.
And Bekowsky. :|
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I didn't hate the ending but I did have some problems with it and some other plot points
The whole Elsa affair was just dropped on you the game never explained why they started dating or how long it had been going on just "surprise your dating that singer from those random cutscenes.
Then there is the Kelso gameplay which is pretty unnecessary but not that bad my main problem with this is that you don't even finish the game as Phelps.
And having played Red Dead Redemption I wish you could have played as Kelso after Phelps death and gave Roy Earle his commupance.
And the biggest problem with the ending is that Cole's death was pointless it was his past catching up with him like in Red Dead Redemption and while he kind of did it to save Kelso I felt like they downplayed the signifigance of his sacrifice.
P.S. Is Rockstar going to do this with all there main characters from now on?
"P.S. Is Rockstar going to do this with all there main characters from now on?"
- I remember when 'GTA IV' was coming out, there were huge rumors that the main character would die at the end and you would play on as his cousin. Wow, that would have sucked.
oh god. i specifically took the morality choice at the last mission that got him killed. Thank god now i don't have to answer his calls about going to hang out or play darts anymore!
I used to be indecisive. Now, I'm not so sure.
I remember I felt absolutely blown away at the end of Red Dead Redemption, and I didn't feel like that at all at the end of LA Noire. I just didn't feel much closure with LA Noire's ending. Overall, I think this was a slight misfire for Rockstar, but still well worth playing.
shareI didn't like seeing Roy Earle up there talking about his "friend" and I was glad that Elsa atleast got up and walked out. And did I hear Earle correctly, Fontaine and Monroe took the blame for the corruption and murders?
A loose end that I would've liked to see tied up was Kelso's boss, Curtis, the dude was a pedophile (when you go to search his place and interrogate him, you can bust into his bedroom where there's a girl lying hin his bed who admits that she's 13) It seems like that story thread was just dropped, I would've liked to have heard that the he went to San Quentin for this alone, if not for the corruption. Did I miss a paper that explained what happened to him? I got all but I think three of them.
And I must say something about the last two flashbacks:
The one that took place in the cave hospital...wow, brings home the horror of war. And then when Phelps is shot, I was kinda surprised, but at the same time glad that one of his men fragged him. Anybody know what character it was? I think it was the same guy that said to Kelso in an earlier flashback about everybody wanting to kill Phelps, but I'm not sure.
And then the final flashback after the credits, where Sheldon tries to talk everybody into stealing the morphine, that just kinda wrapped everything up. And it was nice to see that Kelso KNEW the whole time that his former squad had stolen the morphine, yet he still wouldn't rat them out.
I stick my neck out for nobody- Rick Blaine, Casablanca
I'm pretty sure it was sheldon who shot Phelps.
shareI also felt the whole Elsa thing came pretty much left field. It was like one minute he was going to the club making googoo eyes at the jazz singer but then nothing except him going to her apartment for no reason other than to get information. There was no clear reason why he left his family for the singer except some throw away mark Elsa made to the doctor.
I rather liked playing the part of Kelso because Phelps knew that he couldn't go sniffing around due to his impending hering and the fact he was pretty much stitched up.
I hope they do a sequal though because as a lot of the posters have said, corruption is still rampant in the system. I do hope that Earl gets his comupance. Really didn't like him!!!!
Now to get the DLC stuff since the PSN store is up and running! :)
I hated the change in charatcers near the end, it was done wrong and the ending was to sudden. it was great up until we played as Kelso, it wouldnt have been so bad if we had one last case playing as Phelps to finish it off.
I was like what?? thats the end?? thinking that maybe this game has 2 different endings so I quickly looked it up and sure enough that was the only ending
I really enjoyed the final part of the game, including the bits where you play as Kelso.
I also liked how Phelp's death was so sudden, yet his uttering a simple, "heh," said everything. He'd redeemed himself a little bit and was okay with it. Of course it's going to affect you differently that Marston's death did in Red Dead Redemption. If the entire game is different, why wouldn't the endings feel different?
And to anyone who felt sick listening to Earle give the eulogy, I totally agree. However it was the right thing to do, storywise. Anyone who's seen Chinatown should know that.
"Are you in the army?"
"No man, I just have short hair."
@ Dignan_Tenenbaum. I agree with your post. Also...sorry to nitpick here- but if I recall correctly, Cole's last word was "Goodbye". Still simple, but I found it very sad.
shareWhoops. In my defense, it was quite loud at that moment. What with the gushing water and all. But good to know nonetheless.
"Are you in the army?"
"No man, I just have short hair."
IGN said it had a weird ending which I dont understand, I thought it was quite heroic as he saved his girlfriend and the man who hated him. Great ending.
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Jesus, that's really super... How'd a nitwit like you get so tasteful?
they are planning sequels the mayor and captain could be kill in the next one or arested
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fncp0sQvBM0
I'm starting to think Rockstar games has a clause where every one of their main characters in new IPs has to die @ the end, just so they don't have to face the same situation they did w/the actor who played Nicco Belic in GTA4. I mean, just in case they wanna do a sequel to the game, they don't have to get the same actor to play the main character & he'll have to ask for a lot more money if the game ends up being a huge success.
This way, any DLC or sequel would probably involve Kelso.
First off: Thanks everyone who gave away the ending of RDR. So glad I don't have to finish that anymore now that I JUST BOUGHT IT.
...(ahem). Anyway. Personally I thought that the ending was very good. First off, if he didn't die he'd have lost his job with the police force because of his affair with Elsa. It showed him as the moral, honest character he is; one who would save the woman he loved and the man who he owed his life to. Even at the expense of his own life.
Also, I felt the "eulogy" scene was clever, where we see the chief of police and Roy Earle, both members of the redevelopment conspiracy and key characters in the slandering of Phelps, giving speeches to Phelps' memory. It emphasises the corruption in the city; a city so corrupt that an honest, straight-laced cop like Phelps could never hope to survive in. But a city in which Earle could sell his "friend" down the river and not even shed a tear. Cole did his part, arrested dozens of criminals but, in the end, the corrupt heart of LA chewed him up, spat him out, and continued its criminal activities.
Personally, I think that the main character dying, a pessimistic and realistic ending and a story that serves to make a point other than Good>Evil is great. Yes, a character we grew attached to died. But did people leave Titanic grumbling about the protagonist dying and the relationship ending? Did people complain that Casablanca's ending, where Rick and Elsa are separated forever for the good of the war, was too sad? No. Because, like LA Noire, their endings had a point to make. Good doesn't always triumph over evil.
Wow that was a lot of typing. Anyway, I felt the ending was good. But that's just my opinion.
Spot on bropepe2. That's what noir is. A hero is drawn into corruption and is set up to be betrayed. The films and other works usually end with corruption continuing and with the bad guys usually giving praise to the hero.
sharewell it IS a noir (obviously) so they had to do something. i was more like "no... mine Cole is dead.. :(" it was a sad day
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