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The blank brass casings in slow-mo scene shooting from car


Anyone else find this jarring? The shell casing are obviously blanks and you see them over and over and over again in this scene. You can see the extra brass that was holding the powder in after each shot. It's kind of like watching student film with very obvious props... took me out of the scene and seemed pretty of lame.

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The same thing happened in "Righteous Kill" in the opening scene at the gun range. All this slow motion close up photography of brass, BLANK brass. (Although my first instinct was .357 Sig but then I realized they were blanks.)

I get it, most people are too ignorant of guns to notice, but c'mon, you spend $50 million making a movie, you can't do the same footage with live ammo and get the close ups perfect? You don't have to spend ALL the money on Brad Pitt's hairstylist, hookers and blow.

Brad Pitt also wasn't actually driving in this movie, should they have just used a fake fiberglass car from some amusement park or should the have made the effort to shoot those scenes in a real car?

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i assumed the brass (in certain shots) was CGI, making the error even more heinous. It's like when there's an error in animation - all the modeling and trouble they go to, and they dont' even do a google image serch...

i also wondered about the 7.62x25 rounds, buti find no evidence for that (it appears to ea Browning HiPower?) The "necked down" casing isn't the giveaway, it's the fact that the end of the casing is "scalloped" indicating it had been crimped inward, like a shotgun shell (pressed closed).

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Good catch!

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Yeah, absolutely crucial...

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The people in this thread are ridiculous morons. You want them to fire real bullets in a freaking movie? Are you idiots serious?

Seriously, shut the *beep* up.

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Critically one of the players in the Poker game had non-matching shoelaces . one was the Vitality 4B whereas the left shoe had the newer Vitality 4D/B.

The 4D/B were withdrawn after 2 months after they failed the henderson-Schottky wear test.

An extraordinary error.

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Indeed. And haven't you also wondered why they ruined this movie also in the scene when they beat the hell out of Ray Liotta's character, filming it in slow-mo?

I've never seen a slow-mo fight in real life.

Morons

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it's certainly strange. it was cgi, so it could've been fixed easily.

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I caught it in the trailer. Very irritating. I've seen a handful of shots in MAJOR films that have super-slow-mo closeups of what are obviously blank cartridges. It's rather baffling.

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I have no idea how the hell a blank case looks like, so I was not affected by this "horrible mistake". I actually don't care about those things and I wouldn't be bothered with it even if I were a gun expert.

I work with computers, and let me tell you that every computer seen in the movies and every action they do on computers and every outcome of those actions looks absolutely *beep* ridiculous. They have nothing in common with reality, and they are much more present in movies than slow motion flying blank shells. Has anyone noticed that no one ever uses a *beep* mouse in a movie? They just mindlessly type some *beep* and instantly get "the answer" in multiple weird animated windows with all kinds of scrolling text that makes no *beep* sense. Crack a password? Sure, just wait to type some random *beep* and we'll get through. I should be really enraged about this, right? I don't think so...

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I just learned how blank bullets looks like thanks to butchersong. Whether I want it or not, I've also been paying attention to details in movies for what I know; however I'm bothered by plot or scripting incoherences, not so much by images mistakes, even obvious.

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I probably wouldn't have noticed that the shells in Jackie Cogan's gun were blank. It does seem odd that the producers did all that slow-motion up-close scene work, and didn't bother to use CGI to correct that detail.

However, this scene does make me wonder about Jackie Cogan's security. By that I mean, his security as related to not getting caught by the cops. With so many security and survelance cameras out there these days, making a bold hit at a public intersection like he did, increases the chances for the car to be seen and identified. I know it's 'just a movie', and you're not supposed to analyze it so much, but still...

Jackie's hit at that intersection also left a lot of shell casings flying around, which makes me wonder if a professional hit man wouldn't be a little more concerned about ballistic forensics these days. Every gun leaves a unique 'fingerprint' on its ejected shell casings, which can be traced back to that specific gun, and thus the owner. But then I guess if Jackie's charging between ten thousand and fifteen thousand dollars for a hit, presumably he's covered that detail by using a 'clean' untracable gun.

Jackie's dialog midway into the movie has an interesting link to the movie's title, where he's telling his boss how he had grown weary of the emotional burdens of killing his targets up close and personal, and preferred to do it 'softly' from a distance with a rifle. If he had to do it up close, he'd make it quick as with the kid in the parking garage at the end. I noticed he used a revolver for that hit (no shell casings ejected), although 4 or 5 shots at point blank did seem rather 'overkill'. But then, Jackie obviously is very professional and efficient at his job. I also very much liked his explanation to his boss at the end, of how 'the system' in this country really works.

While this definately isn't a family movie, the plot and dialogues make for a lot of thought.

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