hate for Diana


I have noticed some of the postings have spewed really personal hatred not of the movie but of Diana herself. Why? Some of it is just ugly and mean. What does she represent to you that you have to say such things? Yes, she was rich and she was famous, and not for anything all that great. She did try to do some good things and she made some bad choices. I think if she had realized what a bad deal she would have with Charles, she might not have married him.
Charles wasn't honest with Diana about what he wanted and he wasn't honest with the British people either. All the joy and celebration because he married a local girl and the truth was he didn't want her and he didn't have the spine to admit what he did want until after he was married. And then to expect Diana to just accept it and be quiet. So she rebelled and made a scene, big surprise. Not a reason to hate her, after all, how does this affect you personally? Would you have done any different?

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How true!!!! Yeah, it is very easy to judge her when we are not in her position. Also, people either forget or are unaware of the fact that Diana is not a normal person; she is a highly sensitive person or HSP for short.

Author and psychologist Elaine Aron has brought public awareness (just like Diana did for many things) to this trait that Diana carried along with fifteen percent of the human population. She's written several wonderful books on this trait and has a website here:

http://www.hsperson.com/

Also, check out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highly_sensitive_person,

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2012/05/13/10-tips-for-highly-se nsitive-people/,

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/prescriptions-life/201105/top-10-s urvival-tips-the-highly-sensitive-person-hsp,

and...

http://www.oprah.com/spirit/Am-I-Too-Sensitive-Highly-Sensitive-Person -Quiz

I so wish I could have sent Diana the wonderful book and directed her to these website; she could have been saved so much heartache and pain; she could have been spared the agony of feeling "defective" and feeling as if there were something "off" about herself.

Thanks for being one of the ones who stick up for this wonderful, very, very sensitive lady.

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Diana is not a normal person; she is a highly sensitive person or HSP for short.

Oh, you mean a whiner.

The church may shout but Darwin roars

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Oh, you mean a whiner.

In your opinion. We're all opinionated and biased. Only a few people truly know what happened in the Windsor soap opera and I doubt any are on this board.

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Yeah, I know.

But Cory wossname is beginning to annoy me.

The church may shout but Darwin roars

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In your opinion. We're all opinionated and biased. Only a few people truly know what happened in the Windsor soap opera and I doubt any are on this board.


How true!!! Happy Thanksgiving.

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Oh, you mean a whiner.


Yep, whiner also...Diana does often whine and whimper along with all the oceans of tears she shed in her life...but despite her tears and whimpering along with her blushing, she kept her dignity thru it all.

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I am just as Princess Diana was am highly sensitive person and have been my whole life. I feel emotions of others, people, animals and just about anything else. It's not controlled by anything. But the route for me started as a child in the first grade. I was the smallest in the class and was mildly dyslectics, I shuttered and was mocked and made fun of mostly by boys and was bullied relentlessly. And at least for me, when I get really stressed I cry, and Diana was certainly stress by just being a royal. I got stress at work as my boss was giving me a special project. She saw me start to cry and was concerned. I told her I was stress out and hey they are only tears. You have a high pressure job that cause stress and a way to released that stress is crying. They are only tears. Also like Diana I was painfully shy and had low self esteem. I would rather cry when stresses because the alternative is drinking too much alcohol or doing drugs. So crying feels better.

But HSP is a real thing and highly sensitive persons, who comprise about 15-20% of the population, process sensory data more deeply due to the biological nature of their nervous systems. This depth of processing underlies HSPs' greater proclivity to over-stimulation, emotional reactivity and empathy, and sensitivity to stimuli. But being highly sensitive is often judged to be socially and culturally unacceptable, and the sensory processing sensitivity (SPS) that characterizes HSPs has been wrongly confused with disorders whose outward behavior sometimes appears to resemble that of SPS. However, SPS is not considered a disorder and has been shown to have benefits and advantages, both for the individual HSP and for society. You feel too much for something and you empathize and humanity for others. I never thought being empathetic was a bad thing. You're a compassionate for others. Some people see this as a weakness, emotional problem or in need of a psychologist but I don't, I'm glad that I can connect with people issues more emotional then others.

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Diana also struggled with dyscalculia, a math disability, so you and her have several things in common.

I wish I could have sent dear Diana the book The Highly Sensitive Person by psychologist Elaine Aron...that book would have helped Diana not feel so "defective."

It might have even saved her life. Diana was incredibly wonderful. I am sure she's watching over her sons, daughter-in-law, and grandchildren from Heaven.

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I couldn't agree more with the original question posed, the reality is that the Monarchy has to survive no matter what or who is sacrificed. The establishment couldn't have a future step-brother/sister to a future King who for 1) would be a Muslim & 2) would be mixed race. It was upsetting the Queen & other important people, so something had to be done. British history is littered with the corpses of Kings & Queens who have been killed. The British public hate it because she fell in love with a Pakistani & an Egyptian which played to the racist part they keep hidden in these politically correct times. They were not that bothered when it emerged that Hewitt was having an affair with her and that Harry could be his ginger off-spring there were jokes about it in the media at the time... Falling in love with a non-white was the biggest no - no & it is speculated that she was pregnant at the time of her death, that I'm afraid sealed her fate... When she was alive Charles couldn't re-marry so what happens, she is killed and Camilla who everyone loathed before, now miraculously love her & they change the Church of England rules for them to marry, this is so similar to how they covered up the JFK killing in the US...
One last point, she was loved by the world for decades as long as she towed the line, when she wanted to be her own person the establishment using its many tentacles (media, cohorts, newspapers, Murdoch, conservatives, celebrities) all have tried to tarnish her for History, u just have to do some of one's own research to see the truth.

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I couldn't agree more with the original question posed, the reality is that the Monarchy has to survive no matter what or who is sacrificed.


Not true…was never true, but now people understand it. And if ANY establishment starts sacrificing human beings to survive, then the establishment, whether it is a Monarchy, government, business, religion, or anything…then it should NOT survive.

And today, people know better and Britain is a democracy, not a dictatorship. And secondly, the Monarchy is not the one with political power; that belongs to the Parliament and Prime Minister; they are the ones who pass the laws.

Parliament is VOTED in by the British people, not hand-picked by some dictator; Britain is a free country, not some 1930's Nazi dictatorship.




The establishment couldn't have a future step-brother/sister to a future King who for 1) would be a Muslim & 2) would be mixed race.


Now they could…and Diana for one was infertile after she had Harry, so the whole possible new pregnancy myth was a moot point with her anyway…and secondly, infertility notwithstanding, despite what some mistakenly believe, Diana was in no way, shape or form planning to have a new baby at this point in her life.

Her sons were nearly grown; they weren’t little anymore and she herself was nearing menopause; she was not a young woman anymore.

Furthermore, the Monarchy has changed; they are no longer as racist as they used to be (Diana herself was part Irish Catholic, yet Charles married her and they had their two boys), so if Harry or George married a Muslim or woman of a different race or religion, it might draw some speculation, but it would not be considered some great “scandal” as it would have been in the past.




It was upsetting the Queen & other important people, so something had to be done. British history is littered with the corpses of Kings & Queens who have been killed.


In the past, yes…but let’s not confuse the past with the present. The Monarchy is NOT some Nazi mob organization. I can tell you’re buying that whole Diana was “murdered” nonsense.

Diana was NOT, NOT, NOT “murdered.” She died because she was leading the paparazzi away from the Ritz hotel so the other patrons would not be bothered by all the flashing, intrusive cameras.

She and Dodi had just had a fun night and drank loads of wine with their dinner, so they were slightly tipsy and didn’t realize two things…their driver was drunk and that the security guard was too busy checking his face in the rearview mirror to notice Diana and Dodi’s tipsiness or that they forgot their seatbelts and that the driver was drunk.

That’s how Diana died. She was a HERO, not some lame “murder” victim out of some bad spy/thriller/mobster film.

Diana was LEGALLY DIVORCED from Charles, so the Monarchy no longer had any hold over her; she did not have to answer to them any more. The only ties Diana had with Charles or Philip were thru her sons and even then, her sons were nearly grown at this point and away at school.

At this point, Charles was getting ready to have a Y2K wedding with Camilla, so he and his parents were paying scant attention to what Diana was doing since she was away from them. Diana was in NO way standing in the way of Charles re-marrying.

Charles and Philip treated Diana shabbily and have behaved horribly, but they are not that depraved or evil. Even if they had been, neither one of them are smart enough to plot some elaborate car crash scheme to “murder” her.

I think it’s disrespectful to her legacy to circulate these awful “murder” myths; the lies upset her sons, who want to remember their beloved mum as a hero, some “murder” victim.

Diana would be embarrassed red in the face and it would worry her to no end if she knew, wherever she is in the afterlife, that these lies were still being floated about.





The British public hate it because she fell in love with a Pakistani & an Egyptian which played to the racist part they keep hidden in these politically correct times.


Now that’s an insult to the British people…most British, like most Americans, Canadians, and other Europeans, are NOT that blatantly racist. Few people “hated” that Diana fell in love with anyone of a different religion.

Are you sure you don’t secretly harbor racist attitudes yourself and are projecting them onto others?




They were not that bothered when it emerged that Hewitt was having an affair with her and that Harry could be his ginger off-spring there were jokes about it in the media at the time.


Now let’s knock off that stupid myth about Harry! Harry is NOT Hewitt’s son. Diana did not meet Hewitt until Harry was TWO or so. Diana’s sister and mother had red hair; that’s where Harry gets his red hair, not to mention that some people on Charles’ side of the family had red hair.

Harry’s face looks like Charles. Diana would never be foolish enough to become pregnant from an adulterous affair, then lie to her own child about their parentage. Show Diana and Harry more respect than this.

Actually, Charles and his parents WERE more bothered by her fling with Hewitt than with either Hasnat or Dodi…because she was still married and because Charles’ own adultery with Camilla and Kanga had been exposed.

Charles HATED Hewitt and wanted him kept away from any polo field he was playing on. Hewitt himself was a jacka$$ who made money off Diana and betrayed her; she ended thing with Hewitt quickly. And actually, Diana never even slept with Hewitt; they just had a few necking sessions; that was all.

But Charles, despite his own affairs that he was trying to keep covered up, threw a HUGE tantrum over Hewitt; he didn’t really even pay attention to Diana’s flings with Hasnat or Dodi later since by then they were legally divorced and Charles was wrapped up in planning his wedding to Camilla.

Charles actually was bent out of shape again when Diana DIED…because her death put a wrench into his wedding plans and forced him to put it off until later, so he wouldn’t get the Y2K wedding he was fancying.

In fact, after Diana’s death, Charles broke things off with Camilla because in the wake of Diana’s death, it would make Charles look bad to be planning a wedding then and talking about Camilla. It would have been public suicide for Camilla to show up at Diana’s wedding with Charles also.




Falling in love with a non-white was the biggest no-no & it is speculated that she was pregnant at the time of her death, that I'm afraid sealed her fate.


No, she was NOT pregnant at all…like I said, the speculations are lies. Diana could NOT become pregnant again after she had Harry; her fallopian tubes were too damaged to release any more eggs (largely due to her bulimia).

No “fate” was “sealed” for her…since the divorce, she was free to sleep with and fall in love with whoever she wanted. And she FREELY chose to lead the paparazzi away from the other patrons. She just had the misfortune of having an incompetent bodyguard and a drunk driver….could have happened to anyone.

She died free; she died happy; and most of all, she died heroically protecting the people. Let’s honor her legacy as is, not repeat a toiletful of tabloid lies and myths.




When she was alive Charles couldn't re-marry so what happens, she is killed and Camilla who everyone loathed before, now miraculously love her & they change the Church of England rules for them to marry, this is so similar to how they covered up the JFK killing in the US.


No, they were DIVORCED…she was no longer legally or morally bound to Charles and he was no longer bound to her. Charles was perfectly free to re-marry while Diana was living. And Diana was fine with it; her heart had mostly healed from Charles and the divorce by 1996.

No one “killed” Diana…and Camilla really is still not very popular today. Like I said, Diana DYING actually hindered Charles and Camilla’s wedding plans…had Diana not had the misfortune of dying in that accident, Charles and Camilla’s Y2K wedding would have gone off without a hitch probably in June of 2000.

Diana’s death forced Charles to postpone his wedding until a few years after Y2K, which did not make Charles at all happy.




One last point, she was loved by the world for decades as long as she towed the line, when she wanted to be her own person the establishment using its many tentacles (media, cohorts, newspapers, Murdoch, conservatives, celebrities) all have tried to tarnish her for History, u just have to do some of one's own research to see the truth.


Not all the Monarchy was against her; actually toward the end of Diana’s life, the Queen herself gained a new respect for her when she saw all the good Diana was doing for the world.

And most of the world loved her even more when she disentangled herself free from that drama and mess that had consumed the House of Windsor and spoke out about what was really going on in that marriage.

True that Charles, his cronies and Philip did try to slander her and TRIED (but didn’t succeed) to ruin her reputation…but most of the media saw thru Charles lies and so did the people of the world.

Diana herself stood up for not only herself, but her sons and the people in her quiet, dignified, soft-spoken manner…which won her even GREATER worldwide respect and love.

Diana was a humanitarian, a beloved mum, a dear friend, an international ambassador, an advocate for the public, and most of all a world HERO, not some lame “victim” of some “murder” plot…so let’s be more respectful to the true memory of her and stop circulating these “murder” lies and “secret pregnancy” myths.

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I can see that u r a dyed-in-the-wool monarchist and would no doubt defend the Monarchy to ure dying day, but the facts dispute what u have stated.Firstly, Harry is probably James Hewitt's Son because of his red hair and he looks nothing like Charles. His racist views and wearing the Nazi Uniform was no doubt because he hated that his Mother fell in love with an Egyptian and a Pakistani Doctor. The Queen only made a statement after the British public made an outcry, the memorial has past into obscurity because it was an insult to Diana and no one thought it was a fitting tribute. They have basically erased her from History and memory and now Camilla is in the fold and Charles is making speeches against Muslims attacking Christians in the Middle East, Cameron has stated that multiculturalism hasn't worked and therefore Britain should go back to a mono-culture, in my opinion all these things are linked to the establishment and the powers that be.

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Now, let's knock off that stupid lie about Harry! It is well-known that Diana's oldest sister Sarah and Diana's mum have red hair...that's where Harry gets his reddish hair from.

Hewitt's an opportunist who made money from Diana, so if Harry had been his son, it would be a sure bet he'd come forward again and demand a paternity test, so he could then cash in on the glory of fathering a kid belonging to the Princess of Wales.

And Diana is NOT stupid; she would NOT be irresponsible enough to bear a child from adultery and risk a huge scandal with an innocent child right in the thick of it.

Not to mention that Harry was already a toddler by the time Diana had the misfortune of crossing paths with that stupid Hewitt toad.

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And Diana is NOT stupid; she would NOT be irresponsible enough to bear a child from adultery and risk a huge scandal with an innocent child right in the thick of it.

In regards to that point, I am certainly not saying that she was stupid... Diana however was not afraid of scandal or speaking the truth she gave an interview on British TV 4GodsSake that scandalized the whole House of Windsor & that's another reason for the murder theory...

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In regards to that point, I am certainly not saying that she was stupid...

Diana however was not afraid of scandal or speaking the truth.

She gave an interview on British TV for God's sake that scandalized the whole House of Windsor and that's another reason for the murder theory...


Puuleeeeease...we're talking about a shy, quiet mouse of a lady who was afraid of her own shadow, let alone scared of scandal, gossip (which you appear to enjoy), and speaking before the entire world.

Did you actually watch the whole interview??? The woman could barely control her trembling.

Not to mention her swallowing several times, clearing her throat a couple if times, and blushing nervously a few times.

Also, her body is tense; her head is ducked while she looks up timidly and speaks in a soft voice.

But she was brave in feeling her fear, yet not letting it stop her from doing the right thing by her people.

She knew she owed it to the people and her boys to temper Charles' cruel slander.

Charles was the one who had no scruples about causing one scandal after another and also of damaging the House of Windsor through his lies about his own wife, the mother of their sons.

Diana's interview only "scandalized" Charles, Philip, and SOME of their Palace cronies...because Charles and Philip were finally exposed for the frauds they are.

Even though the Queen was peod at first, she came around in time and gained a new respect for Diana for telling the truth.

And as I said before and you apparently missed...neither Charles, Philip or any of their cronies are smart enough to think up any elaborate car crash scheme that might backfire.

I notice NONE of the "conspiracy" to "murder" wackjobs have been able to answer this question I've posed, you included...why risk some complicated car crash ruse that was no guarantee and that she might have survived?

Why are you having so much trouble accepting that this shy timid woman was a hero who died protecting others?

Are you craving drama so much that you feel a need to twist quiet, soft-spoken, sweet Diana’s life into some bad mobster/gangster fanfiction?

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Did you actually watch the whole interview??? The woman could barely control her trembling.

Not to mention her swallowing several times, clearing her throat a couple if times, and blushing nervously a few times.


R u kidding me, she ARRANGED that interview to publicize what the Royal family were doing to her, she knew how upset they would be & even she wouldn't have thought that they would have gone to the lengths that they did to shut her up...

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R u kidding me, she ARRANGED that interview to publicize what the Royal family were doing to her, she knew how upset they would be & even she wouldn't have thought that they would have gone to the lengths that they did to shut her up...


Naturally, she arranged the interview. How else can you have an interview?

Still didn’t ease Diana's nervousness and fear. Of course, she knew CHARLES AND HIS MINIONS would throw their tantrums because this interview was for the benefit of the PEOPLE, not to flatter either Charles or Philip.

And if you really watched her interview, you'd know that despite her saying what was really going on, she NEVER said anything remotely negative about Charles or ANYONE.

And what she discussed...her bulimia, the affairs, the low self-esteem, her pain...none of it was really news...she was just merely comfirming what was true and tossing out what was NOT true.

She also was reassuring the people that she was here and NOT pining away in some mental institution or dead from suicide.

She was telling us that as long as she was alive, she would NOT abandon the people to Charles’s malicious lies and slander.

Watch the interview on YouTube and see Diana swallow several times in her fear, especially when she talks about her fear of being put in a mental hospital.

Charles was the one who needed to be "shut up"; Charles was the one running his vile loud mouth slandering Diana and spreading horrible lies about her.

Quiet, mousy Diana just gave the one QUIET interview then went about her business raising her sons and continuing her outreach work.

She was NOT the one slandering anyone nor was she causing trouble for anyone.


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And as I said before and you apparently missed...neither Charles, Philip or any of their cronies are smart enough to think up any elaborate car crash scheme that might backfire.


These people have had the best education money can buy with a lineage that descends centuries. They have access to all the military intelligence & politicians that they want, they r wealthy beyond ure or my dreams have the ear of the world's leaders & r u seriously telling me that they r NOT BRIGHT ENOUGH to come up with something that will eliminate a thorn in all their sides!!!

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These people have had the best education money can buy with a lineage that descends centuries. They have access to all the military intelligence & politicians that they want, they r wealthy beyond ure or my dreams have the ear of the world's leaders & r u seriously telling me that they r NOT BRIGHT ENOUGH to come up with something that will eliminate a thorn in all their sides!!!


Lol!!!! We're talking about Charles the insipid Toad here and his imbecile dad, Philip here.

Sure they have millions and fancy titles and access to fancy schools...but all those millions will NEVER buy either Charles or Philip the necessary ingredient of pure INTELLIGENCE.

And it's laughable to suggest that all the world's leaders, especially Diana's GOOD, LOYAL FRIEND, Tony Blair, would take any slander from Charles or Philip seriously at all.

If Charles or Philip had come to any leader or politicians with complaints about a timid little mouse like Diana allegedly being a "thorn in their side," they would have been LAUGHED out of the room, not taken seriously since most world leaders, politicians, and higher government intelligence KNEW and RESPECTED shy, quiet Diana.

Not only Tony and several other world leaders were good friends of Diana's, so was Hillary Clinton.

If you're mental enough to suggest people like Hillary and the White House and the whole Parliament and US Congress were allegedly "in" on some "murder" plot against shy, mousy, timid, kind, nervous Diana, I'll fall over from laughing so hard.

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speaking before the entire world.

Why? u got something to hide...

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No...why? You have something to hide?

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Far from being totally "erased" from history, memorials and books honoring Diana are abound worldwide...not to mention the billions of websites dedicated to her.

Diana's boys, the queen, whether you want to believe it or not, and Diana's siblings would NEVER have allowed her to ever be simply deleted from history.

And Camilla and Charles' marriage is NOT happy either and Diana's sons will definitely NEVER think of Camilla as a mum figure at all; Diana will remain FOREVER in both sons' hearts as their true and only mum.

Your likening sophisticated LONDON, ENGLAND to some 1950's racially segregated Mississippi or Alabama is laughable and ridiculous...London hasn't been "mono-cultural" for at least a hundred or so years.

Diana herself has Irish Catholic blood in her, so she and her family are part of the multicultural society and world.

Mono-cultural countries are a thing mostly of the past.

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I see u never addressed the issue of Harry's racist remarks against Pakistani's & wearing the Nazi uniform or training & fighting on the front-line in Afghanistan, that boy has a lot of hate in him for brown people & I think we can guess why...

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I see u never addressed the issue of Harry's racist remarks against Pakistanis and wearing the Nazi uniform or training and fighting on the front-line in Afghanistan, that boy has a lot of hate in him for brown people and I think we can guess why.


Because there's no proof of any "racism" on Harry's part. Provide the links on any alleged incidents of Harry making any "racist" remarks or shut up and stop slandering poor Harry.

I do hope neither of Diana's sons or any of the Spencers or any of their friends, including Diana’s friends see your slanderous accusations about Harry...or be prepared to face a lawsuit for slander and/or libel.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7822883.stm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/prince-harry-racist-remarks

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/jan/12/prince-harry-video-pakistani

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2009-01-12/uk/28050830_1_racist-remarks-british-army-racist-term

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/4586296/Prince-Harry-in-new-race-row-after-telling-comedian-Stephen-K-Amos-you-dont-sound-black.html

R those enough for U

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Harry apologized for those incidents which happened YEARS AGO. Did you yourself read the article? It was a friend of Harry's in the first instance and it was affectionate bantering, not some mean-spirited attack...and Harry did realize late how others were upset by it and apologized SINCERELY.

Harry still needed his mum even more than Wills and he had been badly wounded by her death. Harry and Wills both went through a TERRIBLE time for several years after Diana's death.

The Palace sure descended into a noisy, hot, sun-glaring, chaos after Diana died...without Diana’s siblings, close friends, and Queen Elizabeth, the boys would have had no one.

Diana didn’t take life for granted;she knew as a famous figure, she was at higher risk for a premature death...so she planned with her siblings, mum, and dearest friends, who all cared for her sons, to help look after her sons in the event of her death.

Please, please...make sure they are not alone if I die too soon was her soft, but powerful plea.

Harry did get a bit wild for several years after Diana's death and did and said some things he now regrets, but it was his late mum's spirit with the help of Wills, Kate, the Queen, and Diana's siblings that pulled Harry from the brink of disaster.

Diana planned well; she knew how deeply her sons loved her, but she knew she could fall to the misfortune of a premature death.

Harry has straightened up his life immensely since then and is now taking up his mum's outreach work in Africa. Diana's spirit from the afterlife in addition to the loving memory of his mum no doubt moved Harry in that direction.

Face it, scandals, wild behavior whatever...both sons will FOREVER remember thier beloved mum.

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It was a friend of Harry's in the first instance and it was affectionate bantering


for one thing it was Harry himself who said it, it was all over the media at the time & it wasn't that long ago. 'affectionate bantering' that is what all racists say when caught out & tell me was that Pakistani cadet in on the jokeas Bernard Manning used to say when making racist remarks...
You sound like a monarchist apologist & cant see whats clearly in front of your eyes, u r deluded...They hate their mum & it's due to the influence of their Grandfather who is a well known racist, just google him & it will curl ure hair...even Charles has moved away from tree-hugging & visiting mosques & wanting to be the leader of ALL faiths,since Diana's death he's living it up with Queen Camilla...

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Oh, I've read about Philip's stupidity and ignorance...which is why he doesn't have the brains or the the respect of world leaders to carry out any complex scheme, especially against a quiet mouse like Diana (whose brain could run a million loops around Philip's, Charles’ and Camilla's put together.

No, Wills and Harry do NOT "hate" their mum...which tabloid fanfiction are you getting this from????? Lol.

Her sons are long on their own and do not live with either Charles or Philip.

Charles yes, has been living it up with his moronic wife since BEFORE Diana died and is still having affairs with other mistresses behind her back.

They bicker behind closed doors almost constantly and don't sleep together anymore, so things are not all rosy with them either.

Charles is actually now badmouthing his own oldest son and his daughter-in-law just the same way he trashed Diana because he's jealous of the attention Wills, Kate, and little George are getting.

Really pathetic toad Charles is. Thank Heaven he and Moron Camilla are not young anymore.

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Diana's boys, the queen, whether you want to believe it or not, and Diana's siblings would NEVER have allowed her to ever be simply deleted from history.


"Diana's Boys" they haven't mentioned her since her death, Harry is playing naked games in Vegas & the other one has married a drone without anything in her head & they r now laying low till the next stage managed occasion to just keep the line going...

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What does any naked games Harry does have to do with anything??? And Kate is intelligent and interesting...sure she's more outgoing and bolder than timid, shy Diana ever was, but she's about as solid as Diana was and like Diana, they are raising their son (and soon more to come) quite well so far.

The sons, while not talking about their mum incessantly, do mention her, visit her grave from time to time, and carry on her legacy in quiet, but meaningful ways.

Wills passed on Diana's wedding ring to Kate mire than TEN years later when they married.

Wills and Harry put on a memorial concert TEN YEARS after their mother's death...hardly sounds like they've "forgotten" her, have they?

More evidence that Diana is FAR from "forgotten" by her sons...


http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/110289/diana-remembered-on-15 th-anniversary-of-her-death http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/prince-william-and-kate-middleton-hon or-dianaa-s-memory-2479370.html

Nine days ago, while the rest of the world fixated on every last detail of their impending nuptials, Will and Kate took a boat to his mother's final resting place.

The couple spent a quiet day at Lady Diana's remote burial site, and walking the grounds of the nearby arboretum where Will and Harry planted trees alongside their mother as boys.

"It was very important for William to take Kate to visit his mum just before their wedding day," a royal insider told the Daily Mirror.

"Diana is still a huge part of her boys' everyday life and always will be."

This was particularly true today, as William bit his lip nervously, standing at the altar with his bride, just as his mother did on her wedding day.

It was a reminder to the millions of viewers who've watched the prince become a man, he's still his mother's son.




http://celebritybabies.people.com/2007/08/31/princ
es-william/


Prince Harry, 22, Prince William, 25, and their royal family and friends gathered to remember Princess Diana who passed away in a tragic car accident 10 years ago.

Prince Harry, who was 12 when Princess Diana died, said at the memorial service,

"To lose a parent so suddenly at such a young age, as others have experienced, is indescribably shocking and sad.

To us, just two loving children, she was quite simply the best mother in the world. When she was alive, we completely took for granted her unrivaled love of life, laughter, fun and folly.

She was our guardian, friend and protector. She never once allowed her unfaltering love us to go unspoken or undemonstrated.

It was an event which changed our lives forever, as it must have done for everyone who lost someone that night.

But what is far more important to us now and into the future is that we remember our mother as she would wish to be remembered, as she was: fun-loving, generous, down to earth and entirely genuine."

The memorial was held at the Guards’ Chapel near Buckingham Palace.

Both Harry and William were responsible for organizing the service and for them it was a tribute to a mother they loved and adored.


Hardly sounds or looks at all like two sons who've "never" mentioned or "never" remembered their beloved mum and all she did for them, does it?

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A load of rubbish & a PR exercise...

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other one has married a drone without anything in her head

Taking after his father then?

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Not at all...but now Charles is married to a real moron without an intelligent thought in her head...what a contrast from the quiet, intelligent Diana.

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The 'Murder' theory is not a lie, only recently it was stated that an SAS soldier knew of the killing, do a google search, it was in all the papers...

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The only thing that is extraordinary about the evidence is that anyone coming forward to the police is immediatley gagged & never heard of again... She & Dodi were murdered & it was a cover-up...I don't believe everything I read in the papers I am going on the letter written by Diana in her own words that she was going to be killed & the protestations from Dodi's Father who has said that they were murdered... It will one day all come out in the wash...

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^ Iawtc.

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Right on, mhansen!!!! Finally some sense here! No evidence at all of any "murder."

None of the Royals are bright enough to dream up any complex car crash ruse that Diana, who was a sturdy woman, might have survived.

These "murder" fanfics would worry Diana to no end.

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Agreed, mhansen2-961-763053p...Diana might have very well survived that crash...then what?

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No, it's a fat lie that the tabloids made up. And drama junkies are gullibly buying the story hook, line, and sinker.

Neither Charles or Philip are bright enough to dream up any complex car crash ruse.

The fact that you blindly believe that "it has been stated" that some SAS soldier allegedly "knew" of a "killing" is laughable.

There are a lot people who will claim they "knew" about anything, even if it's a lie, just to get their name in the papers and on the news.

Sure the "murder" fanfics were in "all" the papers...the tabloid ones.

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People like Philip & Charles only have to show their displeasure & the people that matter take notice. The amount of secret societies that exist in Britain are too numerous to list but I can assure you that this crime of Diana & don't forget Dodi Al Fayed was the biggest injustice since JFK was assassinated... I & millions of others believe they were murdered & one day in the future all will be revealed... Only last week a Panorama prog was one exposing the secret undercover unit in the British Army that were dressed as Irish people in plain clothes committing murder in Ireland, that is just an example of how the wool is pulled over the eyes of people to achieve a goal...

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Definitely a tabloid drama junkie here...I suppose you believe in the nonsensical fanfiction that JFK was killed by this huge international collusion of "everyone" from the US Congress, the CIA, the U.N. and all of their mothers.

These "murder" fanfics from the tabloids that the drama junkies are brainwashed into believing are quite entertaining really...they often make me laugh.

Diana herself would laugh at these little fictions if they didn't involve people she cared about.

Here's a fine Royalty fanfic site you can post your gangster!Royals/murder victim!Diana on...


http://royal-fanfiction.tumblr.com/fanfiction

I know there are other gangster drama lovers who'd enjoy your fanfics there...check out that site and post there.

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U r losing it...

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Sounds like you've lost it years ago. Nutjobs like you are the ones that worried Diana just about the most...in addition to the homophobes and how the the Reagans (truly a scary couple) frightened her back in the 1980's.

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The woman herself told u what she was going through in interviews & letters, this is not tabloid rubbish just take a look around, can u see her living? no she is dead & I am theorizing that the evidence is there to suspect foul play. It's really ultra-monarchists like u that probably have pictures of the queen all over ure house with a shrine built to them that are walking robots...

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Sure, Diana told people what she'd been through. And yes, she's no longer here on Earth. But she died because she was protecting the other Ritz Hotel patrons from media intrusion, NOT as a result of some "murder" plot.

I love darling Diana and have lots of pics of Diana in my place.

It's insulting to her legacy to depict her as some lame damsel-in-distress sitting about helplessly awaiting her "murder" when common sense tells MOST of us that if she suspected any of the other Royals were out to "kill" her, she’d be taking steps to protect herself and her sons and her siblings.

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But she died because she was protecting the other Ritz Hotel patrons from media intrusion, NOT as a result of some "murder" plot.



Explain how she was protecting the patrons you fool as she was with her lover leaving to go elsewhere and didnt leave because a few journos where outside, so how is that protecting the guests ?

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Explain how she was protecting the patrons you fool as she was with her lover leaving to go elsewhere and didn't leave because a few journos were outside, so how is that protecting the guests?


They were headed back to Dodi's place after eating...and they wanted to lead the press AWAY from the hotel and the other patrons...at Dodi's place, the media would probably camp out there, but Diana and Dodi would be in a private place where no one else was.

That way, no other people would have to have cameras all over the place. That's how Diana's death was heroic and a sacrifice for the people. It was just her bad luck that the hotel had an incompetent bodyguard who failed to realize that the driver was drunk; the bodyguard was too enamoured with his own image in the mirror.

Diana and Dodi had earned a fun night out and were a bit tipsy...that's where the bodyguard should have stepped in...Trevor should have seen Diana and Dodi's tipsy state, seen that if the driver was drunk, gone back and demanded a SOBER driver.

If Trevor had been doing his job and if Paul Henri, another oaf, hadn't been irresponsible enough to get behind the wheel of a car after drinking, both Diana and Dodi would still be alive today.

That's the story, NOT some stupid "murder" plot...Charles and his minions are not that bright.

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The amount of secret societies that exist in Britain are too numerous to list


Yeah, there's the House of Lords, the SAS, the paramilitary wing of the Boy Scouts, the WI, the EFDSS, the RAC.........

The church may shout but Darwin roars

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Ever heard of the Freemasons? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-528751/Freemasons-open-lodge-Buckingham-Palace--Queen-isnt-amused.html

http://now-here-this.timeout.com/2013/08/11/londons-top-ten-secret-societies/

http://www.eliteukforces.info/rumours/sas-secret-societies.php

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I have not only heard of the Freemasons, my uncle was one. Nothing sinister about them at all.

http://now-here-this.timeout.com/2013/08/11/londons-top-ten-secret-societies/

All dead (with the possible exception of the Catholic one) and they were mostly societies for would-be witches or to give rich alcoholics some drinking company. Terrifying .

http://www.eliteukforces.info/rumours/sas-secret-societies.php

Paranoid drivel.

The EFDSS is MUCH more scary than any of those. They do Morris Dancing!

The church may shout but Darwin roars

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my uncle was one. Nothing sinister about them at all


no, really... doesn't a mason have to do a favour for other masons? what happens to equality if employment is the issue & the employer is a mason? how about having a noose around your neck & blood oaths etc...occult behaviour? what about the revelations from ex-masons & the sinister things that go one...

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doesn't a mason have to do a favour for other masons?

Within the law, yes.

what happens to equality if employment is the issue & the employer is a mason?

The Masons are very firm believers in meritocracy.

how about having a noose around your neck & blood oaths etc..

How about it? Have you been reading Stephen Knight? He had an agenda, you know. (I don't know what - perhaps his mother was scared by a mason when she was expecting him)

what about the revelations from ex-masons

Yep, you've been reading Stephen Knight.

& the sinister things that go one...

What sinister things?

The church may shout but Darwin roars

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No, I haven't been reading Stephen Knight, I am going more on Aleister Crowley & ex 33 degree masons revealing that the Freemasons actually worship Lucifer & the Gods of the ancient Egyptians... They are only told the truth after they reach very high in the organization when they have too much to lose if they leave...

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Aleister Crowley? A relentless self-publicist (even more so than Princess Diana), drug addict, racist, misogynist and inventor of a dodgy religion.

What he never was was an actual Freemason. He seems to have been involved with some of the more esoteric fringes of masonry (like the Order of the Golden Dawn) and claimed to have been more involved than he actually was and to know occult secrets about the order (which nobody else seems to know) - but he is hardly the most reliable witness to anything. The man was a serial romancer.

The church may shout but Darwin roars

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To the OP: The posts you refer to are probably made by people who have no hate for Diana but find the whole idea of Monarchy or Royal Family to be preposterous, stupid, wasteful and silly. Consider all the former British Colonies that joyously kicked the British back to their grey, cold and wet little island where they can play Kings & Queens all by themselves. So basically, it's just hatred of the idea of "royalty" period... not Diana herself. It's also a critique of the British people who put up with and spend so much money and adoration on the whole silliness of "royalty".

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The public loved Princess Diana and it's easy to see why. She was paid a lot and it was her job to have these humanitarian causes but she did not wear a plastic smile and make public appearances out of duty alone like many in her position do. Her heart was in the causes she chose and it showed, she was real. Flawed, vulnerable, unhappy but honest and real. People miss her and still mourne the tragic way she died, but they loved her when she was alive. I think this movie was a bad idea though, it made me cringe however well intentioned and did not seem worthy of the memory of Princess Diana. The actress who played her was a little too cheerful, it seems Diana was not at her happiest at this time of her life and people felt for her.

When you get up in the morning, how do you decide what shade of black to wear?

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Good points, Em0411...but the last two years of Diana's life were relatively happy...at least much better than it had been before when she was married to Prince Fool.

Kristen Scott Thomas would have been a far better choice. Now that I've re-watched the film on DVD, even Naomi, despite being in her fifties, appeared too young to play the middle-aged, thirty-six year old Diana.

Diana was fairly good-looking, that much is true, but Diana was no longer young-looking; she looked around forty or so when she died...a tribute to all she'd been through and survived in her life.

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I hope she was happy, she deserved it. She seemed so unhappy when she did that famous interview, I think I'll watch it again, the whole thing is on YouTube. KST would have been a good choce if she had been able to get Princess Diana's mannerisms down, the actress who played her did manage that quite well.

When you get up in the morning, how do you decide what shade of black to wear? (Shallow Grave)

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Oh, she was happy especially in the last year. I think that interview helped her.

Funny, despite Naomi being in her fifties, it seemed like they made her appear a tad TOO YOUNG for a thirty-five to thirty-six year old Diana.

Diana always seemed older than her years to me.

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I'm really glad that you asked this as I was asking myself this very same question just yesterday and managed to arrive at a conclusion. I just found this board by mistake and so its a nice way to get my thoughts written down.

For me personally I have always found the figure of Diana to be rather unlikeable and annoying and this is not due to a belief she was a bad or unpleasant person or that she did anything especially vile or unpleasant with her life.
it comes down to our cultures and more specifically our media's habit of creating narratives around individuals and then feeding them too us.
they are especially guilty of this when it comes to the royal family but its is a general practice across the board.

this women was not a great wit or intellect, she didn't invent anything or make any great speeches nor change anything significant about the world. she was not even by traditional standards a great beauty.
Now this is true of most of us and certainly nothing to be vilified for.
the difference being we are not celebrated for it. throughout her life the media rammed these narratives down our throats of Diana the great beauty, Diana the great humanitarian, Diana "the princess of hearts" now when everyone is saying aren't the emperors clothes beautiful and he's butt naked at first this might just seem silly but after long enough of having this manipulative propergander fired at us you start to resent the emperor even if he is a perfectly normal human being with no more faults than the rest of us who is so caught up in the illusion that he himself thinks he's wearing a lovely new cape.
eventually you start to resent them because they become a symbol of lies and manipulation and the site or sound of them leaves a bitter taste in the mouth that's very hard to narrow down.


She did certainly take part in some humanitarian work but for the most it was a conceived and conceited effort to use the media to repair her reputation after being vilified for a series of personal issues.
she clearly was not an evil person and to say she was is to pay disrespect to the real evil people in history who put in the exhausting effort it takes to make that list.
she was however totally overrated in every possible way and rammed down our throats throughout her life. No this is not her fault and it does not make her a bad person at all but it does go some way to explaining why so many find this figure to be so fundamentally annoying. she is undeniably guilty of playing this game of propergander and manipulation and clearly lacked either the mental or social faculties to cut through it and talk clearly.
she was a lynch pin for lies and emotional manipulation and her funeral and overall media reaction to her death was a month of sad creepy sycophantic nationwide emotional masturbation that we should all collectively be ashamed of.

In thinking this through I realised that despite occasionally thinking I did I have actually never hated Diana, she was just a human being. I do hate the world she was involved in, the game she played and what it does to people and I continue to get the exact same reaction when I read the weird celebratory stories about William and Kate which now pervade our media.

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Dammit your right ! Thanks for pointing it out though.
Spelling and proper punctuation is often a bit of a weak point for me and something I'm working on. I hope it doesn't take away too much from the point that I'm trying to make.

I think your taxi driver buddy summed it up perfectly. As the public we have a right to resent these stories and their central figures when we look at them and see lies. As a matter of fact I think we have a duty to resist the idea of putting anyone on a pedestal with a label around their neck not just for ourselves and our society but also for the people being labelled and turned into products because they are invariably destroyed by this process.
For a good example of this take one short look at the exploitative vile train wreck that was Michael Jacksons life or for that matter Diana's

For a good example of someone with a lot more character and awareness than Diana was ever able to muster watch this video of Bob Dylan doing absolutely everything in his power to resist this attempt to create a narrative and instead confront things as a real human being. Not a perfect person or an idol or any kind of ideal and probably absolutely out of his mind on drugs for this interview but still reacting in a natural reality based way without trying to manipulate anyone's emotions or gain peoples sympathy or approval. basically trying not to drown in the sewage of nonsense that Diana elected to swim in at every given opportunity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guOaI6_cF10

That's how a human being is supposed to react to the utter ridiculousness of the media and its phony narratives and anyone with fully functional set of faculties smells it quicker than a gas leak. I have no resentment for people who idealize Diana but I feel bad that there's obviously something so large missing in their lives that this phony image fills a void for them and I think their failure to move past that makes all of us poorer and enriches the media companies creating a narrative to profit from the weak and vulnerable.

In short get rid of those stupid ugly overpriced commemorative plates, go outside and start living instead of celebrating empty vapid confused people who lived off your taxes and used tears, phony emotion and the media to manipulate you. at least mr bob gave us some nice tunes and words to take home at the end of the day what did Diana give you ?

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No hate for Diana Spencer, but enormous disdain for her sycophant, vicarious fans.

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