Very, very relentless.
Sure is…Diana’s sensitivity was unstoppable…her tears were often just relentless, much to Charles and Philip’s disgust.
Poor Diana often felt as if her sensitivity was a “handicap” when it reality, it was also a gift, a blessing that enabled her to have deep compassion for others, especially the suffering of others and that enabled her to ease suffering and to help others get thru their pain.
This relentless sensitivity also enabled her to be a wonderful mother and raise her sons into fine, caring young men who are today carrying out her legacy. That sensitivity she had changed the Monarchy forever and her sons are carrying out the rest of those much-needed, long-overdue changes.
Interestingly enough, this extreme sensitivity forced her to build a great emotional strength and fortitude especially thru tough times…that was another blessing in disguise, something Diana began to realize near the end of her life.
She married Charles primarily to become famous, but insisted that she did fall in love with him later.
Untrue! Diana LOVED Charles from the start. Even one of her nannies, Mary Clark, I think says that Diana, as a teenager (she had not yet arrived at puberty yet) told Mary that she would never marry unless she was truly, truly in love with the person she planned to marry.
This was largely due to her own parents’ bitter divorce and the pain it caused the highly sensitive Diana; Diana was frightened of going thru the same thing that her parents went thru.
Diana never forgot the sound of her beloved mum’s footsteps gritting thru the gravel on that bleak day her father tried to drive Frances out of her own kids’ lives; by numerous biographical accounts, Diana sat on the steps, silently weeping as she listened to her mother’s retreating footsteps, then heard the car engine start, then fade off into the distance.
This might not upset some kids that much, but for the very sensitive Diana (HSP for short), it was devastating and very terrifying; she’s said that it was just about the most terrifying, traumatic time of her life. She feared that her beloved children would experience that same trauma that she’d gone thru.
By that time he had become disillusioned with the marriage because Diana made huge demands of him and the household staff, always wanted her own way and refused to make compromises.
Diana made no unreasonable demands; all she wanted was to be loved and respected by her husband and to be able to do the same for him. She wanted to raise and love a family and to be a good mother to her kids. Once she realized how dysfunctional the Monarchy was, she then wanted to change this and create a new, better Monarchy, something Charles just could not understand and felt threatened by.
Diana knew she was in a prominent position married to a prominent man, so she wanted to use that power for GOOD, to help others and to place the Monarchy back in touch with the people. And she wanted to pass this on to her sons, to raise them to be caring, loving, and responsible.
She was keenly conscious of the fact that she had the awesome, daunting task of raising the future king of England…so she knew she wanted to raise a king who was in touch with the people, who cared, and who had no false delusions of “superiority” over the “common” people.
She, better than either Charles or Philip, understood that with great wealth, privilege, and power came enormous responsibilities, especially to their people…and she used that power for good, to make this world better. And yes, she did use the media attention as well, but for the GOOD of the PEOPLE and to bring attention to the suffering, so the WORLD could be moved to help the suffering.
The thing Charles became disillusioned with was the fact that Diana proved to be an unusual, deep thinker who cared deeply about others. Diana did have her emotional problems also; I do give you that and Diana did often cry too much for others’ comfort…something else that yes, Charles became disillusioned with.
But instead of being supportive and encouraging Diana to accept her sensitivity and perhaps helping her seek a counselor she was comfortable with (instead of trying to pressure her to take pills to make her problems), Charles just pulled away and blamed her and became distant and cold.
Perhaps Charles’ failure to extend emotional support to Diana in her emotional troubles and bulimia was a result of issues of his own; he was raised in a very hands-off, aloof way.
It has been said that Charles rarely saw his own mum and when she did come home, he didn’t recognize her at first and ran to the wrong woman for a hug…and once he was led to his true mother, she just shook his hand, teaching her son not to be affectionate.
As a result, while Charles did love Diana in the beginning and also wanted to help raise a happy family, he simply lacked the know-how to be a good, loving supportive husband, especially thru the tough times.
He got tired of constantly caving in to her and went back to the one person who didn't beat him down, the horsey lady Camilla, the one person who still does love him for himself.
Lame excuses for adultery. Camilla was actually not “horsey.” Looks are really unimportant here; it was on the inside that counted. Camilla was FAR from Charles’ only mistress. Did you know that Charles also cheated on a woman named Kanga who I think was originally from Australia? Charles also cheated with one or two other women as well…a fact that he kept well-hidden and that his fans have been fooled by.
So, let’s not blame Diana for Charles’ affair….instead of challenging himself to find a good counselor that would teach him how to be a loving spouse for a highly sensitive person, he merely took the easy way out and had affairs.
He used Camilla (who was also MARRIED and cheating on her husband, Andrew Parker Bowles) to sound off complaints about Diana; I’ve read that he told her stories about Diana allegedly being “difficult” and “demanding.” He also lied about Diana, claiming that she “fired” staff members at will.
I’ve also heard (not from tabloids either) that Camilla also badmouthed her own husband and that one of her kids was so hurt by Camilla’s behavior that he numbed his pain with drugs and ended up in rehab.
Thank Heaven Wills and Harry had the strong, level-headed Diana to give them the strength to be strong and stable themselves so they were not in danger of winding up in the sad shape Camilla’s poor son was in.
Diana’s courage and fortitude in the face of her humiliation, emotional problems, bulimia, and pain was something neither Wills or Harry ever forgot; they are both fine strong young men today largely due to Diana. Diana definitely left her permanent legacy of caring, strength, responsibility, compassion, and fortitude on both of them forever…something that even her untimely death could not erase.
Camilla is Charles's kindred spirit, something I don't think Dodi Fayed was for Diana.
In a twisted way, Camilla and Charles fit each other…they aren’t happy now together, but in an odd way, they deserve each other. I have read that they’ve both been unfaithful to each other and that they have noisy rows in private.
We really don’t know enough about Dodi to know if he would be one of Diana’s kindred spirit, but even if they’d lived and he turned out not to be one of the kindred spirits in Diana’s life, Diana had LOTS of kindred spirits in her life that she cared about and who cared about her, so even without Dodi, she was not lonely as some drama junkies claimed she was.
In her Bashir interview, Bashir does ask her how she feels about no longer being with Charles and if she ever felt “alone” or “lonely” without a man in her life and she said no. I think initially, Diana feared separation because yes, she did fear that she’d be lonely and miserable.
Initially, yes, Diana was miserable in those first few months after they’d separated; she cried oceans of tears, but after those first few bad months, Diana’s heart wasn’t so heavy, especially since her outreach work fulfilled her inside; she EARNED the emotional support and love of loads of people, and she began to realize that she did not need a man to be happy in her life.
As she told Bashir, she had her boys, her work, her friends to sustain her and keep her from becoming too lonely; these people in her life (along with her three siblings and mum) were ALL her kindred spirits and she was a kindred spirit for them as well.
She was still often sad and still cried lots and had nightmares, but she knew she was never truly alone. She understood true life and true relationships with others better than Charles ever did.
Diana, to her relief, discovered that being divorced did NOT have to ruin a life and began to see that she did have the strength, despite her high sensitivity, to survive the pain of divorce without ending up in a mental hospital or rehab.
Despite her pain and own suffering, she continued her outreach work, her deep caring for others and also continued to raise her sons and be the good mother she always was.
Charles also had a hostile media to deal with and a cruel public which thrived on putting him down, mocking his speeches and Jug ears, and thoroughly kicking him in the gutter.
Charles was FAR from the innocent victim you are claiming he is. Not ALL the public or media were “cruel.” Yes, I do agree that mocking someone’s physical appearance or speeches is uncalled for, but Charles was FAR from the only victim of the media or of public ridicule.
Lots of the media and some of the public were also pretty cruel to Diana at times; they mocked Diana’s speeches also; they spread the horrible rumor that she was allegedly “stupid” because she was poor at math and struggled with tests in school and was rather stuttering, blushing often, and timid in front of large crowds, especially when she had to give a speech.
Some of the public and media were cruel enough to mock Diana’s bulimia and crying spells. As Diana stated in the Bashir interview, some media attention is all right, but often it was crossing the line and invading her privacy; some cameras were getting too close to her and making cracks just to make her blush or cry, so they could laugh and get her picture in her distress. That is media cruelty as its most base and vile.
I do hope you are not going to find a way to blame Diana for this; Charles was fortunate enough to seldom have to deal with cameras following him to his car or taunting catty little cracks about his ears or his features.
If lots of the media criticized Charles’ handling of the failing marriage, his treatment of Diana and his affairs (yes, more than just Camilla), Charles EARNED most of that criticism of his ACTIONS there.
The media did NOT let Diana off scot-free for her own TWO affairs (she was NOT sleeping with “dozens” of men as Charles tried to accuse her of doing); the media was just as relentlessly cruel about Diana’s fling with Hewitt and Squidgygate as they were about Camillagate and Kangagate.
Let’s try to have a single standard here, ehhh? Both Charles AND Diana erred here; they both were equally guilty, so don’t condone Charles and make excuses for him, then turn around and condemn Diana for the same actions. And do stop blaming Diana for Charles’s actions.
Because the press and the populace both enjoyed rubbing his nose in it and elevating his beautiful wife to demigoddess stature, it is no wonder that the marriage foundered.
Diana really was not physically that beautiful, so let’s dispense with the drama here…the press also was often mean to Diana and rubbed her huge nose into her Squidgy humiliation and her crying spells. Often they’d push a camera close to her face while she was crying and upset her even more.
Then amongst the populace, there are haters like you who see the images of the weeping Diana, who accused Diana of “faking” her distress and of “playing” to the media for “sympathy. People like you are amongst those who’ve been cruel to Diana.
The marriage failed for LOTS of reasons; it’s not that simple. Diana was quiet, shy, deep-thinking, highly sensitive (perhaps too much for Charles), introverted, and compassionate.
She wanted to place the Monarchy back in touch with the people and reach out to the suffering. Here she did court the media to raise public awareness of the AIDS crisis and of AIDS victims who’d been shunned by cruel narrow-minded people, to raise public awareness of problems like poverty, landmines, and children suffering from horrible diseases.
As Diana said in her Bashir interview, people often feel threatened by change…and Diana was changing the Monarchy and in her quiet, yet powerful way, she was making changes in many areas of many people’s lives and also challenging the rest of the Royal family to look outside their sheltered, privileged existence and reach out to the people and to raise their future children differently.
Charles couldn’t deal with these changes; he was one of those who felt threatened by change and new ways of thinking. He was also jealous of the respect his wife was EARNING worldwide and even inside some of the Palace members with her hard work, intelligence, humility, and kind heart, so he lashed out at Diana and used Camilla and Kanga as an escape route.
I'm sick and tired of hearing people say that if Charles had only loved her, everything would have turned out perfectly happy. This is not true.
True that it would not have been that simple. Charles did love her in the beginning just as Diana loved Charles…but Charles could not understand Diana’s sensitivity and felt threatened by the changes Diana was quietly making to Palace life and to the world and to yes, her emotional problems.
The cold way Charles was raised and the callous indifference much (not saying all here) of the Royal life had toward the suffering and often to their own children and their staff was alien to Diana and shocked her.
She was stunned that the Palace wanted her to leave the then-infant Wills behind in the care of impersonal nannies and fly off the Australia as if Wills was no more than a computer or a lamp and to not feel anything; she could not understand why maternal love and caring seemed alien to them.
She was quite shocked to discover that many of the Royal houses never dropped a word of support or encouragement to each other or to any staff. She mentions this in the Bashir interview; she says she never heard anyone tell others Well done for good work or kindness or show concern by asking Was that all right?
The rigid divisions between people also upset Diana; she was not raised to see people in rigid “types.”
All this distressed the highly sensitive Diana, so she knew she wanted her children to grow up with a far different upbringing and to change this awful Palace “tradition” of cold indifference and being so out of touch with the people that they would be indifferent to suffering.
From Charles and his parents’ perspective (Queen Elizabeth did come around and came to respect Diana toward the end of her life), they were shocked at Diana’s raw emotions, her open caring, her naked concern for the emotional well-being of people, even “lowly” maids and butlers.
Charles and his aides wondered why Diana seemed so attached to her siblings and parents in such a raw, open way; why her Spencer side, despite the Earl titles of some of its members, hugged, cried, joshed each other, bonded so tightly, cared so much about the “commoners,” and insisted on being a big part of her sons’ lives.
These differences are a large part of why the marriage failed; it was a huge clash of different value systems.
Try imagining Diana happily married now to the aging Charles without wanting to have affairs of her own with more attractive men. I have never been able to see that.
Even if he had remained true to her (with nothing to gain for it except the nurture of his two sons) the Princess would still have had those affairs and the public would have condoned them because both the media and the masses loved her so much.
And try as I might, I cannot imagine Charles remaining truly faithful to an aging Diana, especially since we know that had she not had the misfortune of dying in her late 30’s in her accident, Diana would have gained much-needed weight in her middle age, her blond hair would have turned white; her round, sweet face would grow even rounder and gain more wrinkles; shed need her glasses more often as she grew older…I just cannot imagine Charles having the maturity to cope with this.
Sure, Camilla’s aging also, but Camilla’s as shallow as Charles is and has had cosmetic surgery and dyes her hair to look younger.
Diana had a couple of affairs like Charles did, but what earned Diana the respect and love of the masses is that UNlike Charles, Diana owned up to her mistakes and acknowledged that she erred and took responsibility for her own actions. Never once did Diana make excuses for herself or ever try to blame anyone else for her mistakes.
Charles, on the other hand, made excuses for himself and blamed his mistakes, especially his affairs, on Diana….just like you are so desperately trying to do.
Diana did not try to lie about or hide her flings while Charles never really came clean about all his affairs; other than Camilla, he tried to hide his affairs and put on this phony front of being “faithful” to Camilla (while still married to Diana).
Diana, blushing and sometimes swallowing, came clean to the people about her mistakes while Charles never did; he just donned on his phony front and continued his lies to and about Diana to the people…which is why the masses and media gained respect for Diana and lost respect for Charles.
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eileen-guthrie555
9 years ago
As a result, while Charles did love Diana in the beginning and also wanted to help raise a happy family, he simply lacked the know-how to be a good, loving supportive husband, especially thru the tough times.
On this I disagree with you. I never thought he was ever in love with her. Diana was chosen by Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip, mostly for her pedigree, age and the ability to have children. I read that a few days before the wedding, Charles went to his parents and said he couldn't do it, he wasn't in love with her. They forced him into the relationship to begin with and then forced him to marry her. I had hoped he would eventually love her the way the "People" did, but it always seemed he resented her for her popularity, but I don't think it ever happened. I always saw it as an arranged marriage on the part of the Queen and Earl Spencer. It just seemed to quick, when most of Charles' girlfriend and their relationships were plastered across the tabloids. I was young then but I don't remember seeing them Charles and Diana in picture or stories during "their romance" in the papers or tabloids and I have no recollection of a romance between them until it was announced in that interview where she shows off the ring. She was the "perfect" virginal bride, future Queen and mother to his children. I do believe she loved him though. But, come on, who calls their ex-girlfriend on their wedding night from a ship? Not someone who is in love with their new bride. My mother was enthrall by Diana and her story, which my mother thought was romantic, something out of a Disney movie. Every girls fantasy of marrying a handsome Prince (well Prince for Charles). My mom woke me up at 4 am to watch their wedding, when all I wanted to do was sleep and catch it later when it was repeated for the 100th time. I think the royal family resented her popularity with the "people." That is supposed to be for the Queen who is the popular one and why I think they never understood her ever but the people did. She was 20 years old, still a naive young woman who may have believed the fantasy as my mom did. She took her popularity and put it to good use, used the media to her advantage to showcase her charitable causes. That I admired her for and putting up with the Windsor family for as long as she did, but you know she resented them just as much as they resented her and she was a very angry person during the end of their marriage. Diana was far from perfect, but no human being is, but her mistakes in life were plastered across the tabloids for all to see and who would want to live in that small fish bowl of the royal family. I would feel claustrophobic living the way she had to under the thumb of a woman who didn't like her very much and thought was she childish, frivolous and immature, she was 19 and 20 years old when she met and married him! Did they have anything in common with each other? I doubt it.
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Coryraisa
9 years ago
Let's not forget, though, that Diana was living on her own and working and self-supporting as a kindergarten teacher, so I disagree that the marriage was "arranged" at all, least of all, by Diana's dad.
Diana would never have accepted any "arranged" marriage; she once told her nanny that she could never enter into any "arranged" marriage; she stated that she'd have to be truly in love with the man she married.
I do think INITIALLY, Prince Fool Charles loved Diana, but was confused and not very mature...I agree that it was inappropriate for him to be ringing one of his SEVERAL mistresses on his own honeymoon.
Camvapidmilla was FAR from his only mistress; in fact, part of the reason Prince Fool Charles' parents were pressuring him to marry soon was because whispers were leaking out about Prince Fool Charles's sexual escapades.
Charles' parents did NOT want him embarrassing his family and the British Monarchy by gaining the reputation as a womanizer.
Prince Fool Charles, however, was too immature to take care of the deep love Diana has for him and foolishly wasted the chances that he had with Diana...he went chasing the elusive "greener grass" elsewhere, including with the MARRIED Camvapidmilla and ruined his own marriage.
I suspect Charles thought he was getting a British Marilyn Monroe in Camvapidmilla...after all, Camvapidmilla does have quite a bit in common with Marilyn Monroe.
But now belatedly, Charles has discovered that being married to Camvapidmilla is no bed of roses; both he and Camvapidmilla have belatedly discovered that the "greener grass" they were chasing tastes absolutely PUTRID.
True, though, that Prince Fool resented her popularity, which Diana had EARNED though her outreach work and her genuine caring...but not the entire rest of the Royal family.
Queen Elizabeth was initially put off by Diana's deep emotions and deep thoughts, but toward the end of Diana's life, came to respect Diana, especially once she saw all the good Diana was doing for the world and how well Diana had raised the sons.
Diana was not using the media to HER OWN advantage; she used the media for the advantage of the people she was helping like the landmine victims.
I remember reading that when Diana went to Angola, she was rather upset because the cameras and media were too focused on HER and not on the landmine victims.
She was on the brink of tears as she pleaded for the media to please not make this about herself, but about the landmine issue and the landmine victims.
That's why she insisted on having the media get to know the VICTIMS themselves rather than go on a narrative on what Diana herself was doing and on her own life.
True, Diana and Prince Fool Charles didn't have much in common at all. Prince Fool has more in common with Paris Hilton and Justin Bieber.
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eileen-guthrie555
9 years ago
I suspect Charles thought he was getting a British Marilyn Monroe in Camvapidmilla...after all, Camvapidmilla does have quite a bit in common with Marilyn Monroe.
I just threw up in my mouth when I read that. Dragon lady, which is what I called her, because she's about as attractive as a dragon's butt. Sexy, maybe if your looking at someone standing behind her or the horse Charles was riding. Marilyn was beautiful and very sexy and even if the dragon lady had a 1000's surgeries she would never come close to being a Marilyn. What do they have in common? "Pills, booze, sex? i just threw up in my mouth again. I don't follow the royal family anymore a have no interest for Charles or Dragon lady. I no longer buy tabloids like People, Entertainment Weekly, etc any more, not since Diana's death. To tell you the truth I don't miss them either.
True, though, that Prince Fool resented her popularity, which Diana had EARNED though her outreach work and her genuine caring...but not the entire rest of the Royal family.
So, who was most like Diana in that family? Andrew always seemed nice and a descent person. I always had a feeling that the Queen and Prince Phillip resented her popularity with "the people" especially Prince Phillip. Am I wrong there?
Queen Elizabeth was initially put off by Diana's deep emotions and deep thoughts, but toward the end of Diana's life, came to respect Diana, especially once she saw all the good Diana was doing for the world and how well Diana had raised the sons.
Two women, very much different in the ways these women were raised. The Queen was to never show any emotion in public. Whereas Diana was from a broken family. Her sisters were much older than she was, so her closest companion was her little brother Charles, who simply adored her. His eulogy at her funeral was the most moving for me and I loved that little zinger he put in... she doesn't need a title to be in peoples hearts or something like that.
Diana was not using the media to HER OWN advantage; she used the media for the advantage of the people she was helping like the landmine victims.
Definitely not at the end of her life but certainly during the divorce and the consensus was the public was more behind Diana then Charles, at least here in the States. In the beginning, she looked terrified by the paps, almost breaking down sometimes. I've been around some paparazzi's and they are not nice people. They shout out disgusting comments to get arise out of a celebrity it is gross and disgusting. So, I cannot image how a 20 year old young woman heard them shouted out at her. I'm not going to say what they yell because it's disgusting. But, I looked at one and said you're pathetic and disgusting. Diana certainly had a target on her back for most of her adult life, knowing wherever she went there would be a bunch of people taking pictures of you when you want privacy with your children. I still believe they were responsible for her death. The driver wouldn't had had to speed to get away from them, if he had driven normally I think they all would have lived. They cut someone's life short who had so much to give to the needy, sick and two young boys who still needed their mother.
True, Diana and Prince Fool Charles didn't have much in common at all.
Prince Fool has more in common with Paris Hilton and Justin Bieber.
I, unfortunately met Paris Hilton one time when I was in LA. I have seen rocks that had more intelligence than she does. Not only does the elevator not go to the top. It's permanently dead in the basement. Her sister certainly was more intelligent (and smart because she doesn't show up for the red carpet and leave before the movie starts anymore). She's was so desperately wanting her picture taken and doing her stupid poses and when they were shooting other celebrities and guest she constantly said, hey I'm here. She was so pathetic, so desperate for attention. No one knew who she was back then.
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Coryraisa
9 years ago
I just threw up in my mouth when I read that.
Yeah…the thought of Prince Fool Charles fancying Camplasticmilla as a British Marilyn Monroe made me barf in my mouth also…especially when we know the sordid life and death Marilyn Monroe led.
None of us really knows if she overdosed by accident or was killed by drug lords.
Dragon lady, which is what I called her, because she's about as attractive as a dragon's butt. Sexy, maybe if you’re looking at someone standing behind her or the horse Charles was riding.
Today, yes…Camplasticmilla’s had so much cosmetic surgery on her face she looks fake…she looks today like a Halloween-ish caricature of Marilyn and a blond post-cosmetic surgery Michael Jackson.
Marilyn was beautiful and very sexy and even if the dragon lady had a 1000 surgeries she would never come close to being a Marilyn. What do they have in common? Pills, booze, sex?
True, Marilyn was much more beautiful physically than both Camplasticmilla and Diana, not that it did her any good. But other than that, Marilyn had LOTS in common with Camplasticmilla.
Pills, booze, sex, adultery, dysfunctional relationships to name a few. Both Camvapidmilla and Marilyn Monroe had affairs with prominent men that they KNEW were married. Both Camplasticmilla and Marilyn (Marilyn was unfaithful to her third husband) were unfaithful to their husbands.
Both of them felt that the “needed” a man in their lives to be complete. Both were rather spoiled. Both were rather conceited.
I just threw up in my mouth again. I don't follow the royal family anymore a have no interest for Charles or Dragon lady. I no longer buy tabloids like
People, Entertainment Weekly, etcetera any more, not since Diana's death. To tell you the truth I don't miss them either.
I don’t buy tabloids either…but Prince Fool Charles and Camplasticmilla, much to their disgust, do not make up the Royal family anymore.
Today it is Diana’s sons, Kate, and Diana’s grandchildren along with the Queen. Even the Queen has distanced herself from Prince Fool Charles; she’s fed up with his antics.
I also understand that this second marriage of Prince Fool Charles and Camplasticmilla is far WORSE than their first marriages, even though they are trying to hide it from the public.
Prince Fool Charles has even indirectly badmouthed Wills and Kate’s family to the press and a couple of years ago, Prince Fool also landed himself into an embarrassing catfight with Russian President Putin that disgusted the rest of the Royal family.
No, not to worry, you won’t see too much of either Prince Fool Charles or his vapid wife, Camplasticmilla these days; they are NOT popular anywhere in the world.
So, who was most like Diana in that family? Andrew always seemed nice and a decent person. I always had a feeling that the Queen and Prince Phillip resented her popularity with "the people" especially Prince Phillip. Am I wrong there?
Partially. Philip, yes, was also jealous of Diana and so were some of Prince Fool Charles’ yes-men.
But there were many in the Royal family that stood by Diana and even after the divorce, she remained on good terms with Andrew, Fergie, Princess Anne, Princess Margaret, and several others.
Queen Elizabeth also came around and was supportive of Diana, especially once she saw all the good Diana was doing for the world and once she saw the fabulous job Diana was doing raising the two sons.
Two women, very much different in the ways these women were raised. The Queen was to never show any emotion in public.
True…one of the rare times she displayed emotion in public…..? When Diana died.
Whereas Diana was from a broken family.
Divorced parents are NOT “broken” families; my own parents are long divorced, but we are a loving intact family.
So, you really shouldn’t label those of us with divorced parents as having “broken” families; it’s only the parents’ marriage that breaks up, not the entire family.
Parents do not divorce their children along with their spouse nor do the siblings divorce each other.
Diana and her siblings remained siblings and neither of Diana’s parents divorced the kids. Even though Frances was driven out of Park House, she fought to remain part of her kids’ lives…she divorced ONLY Johnny, not her kids.
Her sisters were much older than she was, so her closest companion was her little brother Charles, who simply adored her.
That much is true. But Diana still had a loving relationship with all of her siblings...despite the divorce, actually the Spencers were mostly a warm family that did not stifle emotional expression...so Diana was raised to be comfortable letting her frequent tears out and with expression her emotions openly.
His eulogy at her funeral was the most moving for me and I loved that little zinger he put in…she doesn't need a title to be in people’s hearts or something like that.
How true…he and Diana’s sisters truly loved her. They were also fed up with Prince Fool Charles and the shabby way he treated their sister.
Definitely not at the end of her life but certainly during the divorce and the consensus was the public was more behind Diana then Charles, at least here in the States.
No, the public was behind Diana at the end of her life also, which was why she was mourned worldwide.
MOST people in MOST countries, including England were behind Diana all her adult life. She saw the good she was doing for the world and how down-to-Earth she was and what a wonderful mother she was to her boys.
Americans were NOT the only people who loved Diana. It was the MAJORITY of the BRITISH people who demanded that the flags be lowered to half-mast and that Diana be given the state worldwide respectful funeral she deserved.
And there was nothing an indignant Prince Fool or Philip Imbecile could do to change this.
In the beginning, she looked terrified by the paps, almost breaking down sometimes. I've been around some paparazzis and they are not nice people.
The highly sensitive, introverted Diana was always overwhelmed by the paps…I remember being so frightened of the paps...poor shy mouse.
They also loved to make her blush also…poor Diana blushed so easily and cried so easily…they also loved to have pictures of her crying.
They shout out disgusting comments to get arise out of a celebrity it is gross and disgusting. So, I cannot image how a 20 year old young woman heard them shouted out at her.
Me either…particularly a very, very sensitive, shy woman like Diana.
I'm not going to say what they yell because it's disgusting. But, I looked at one and said
you're pathetic and disgusting.
Lots of them are…I’m glad I’ve never had to deal with them. I’d never want to be famous because of the paps.
Diana certainly had a target on her back for most of her adult life, knowing wherever she went there would be a bunch of people taking pictures of you when you want privacy with your children. I still believe they were responsible for her death.
Not fully…but they did play a part. Yes, poor sweet Diana as an HSP (highly sensitive person) was the paps favorite little toy...some of them had fun making her blush and making her cry at times.
Thank Heaven Diana did not live in the States, especially Hollywood...I understand the paps there are FAR WORSE and more vicious than the ones in most of Europe.
The driver wouldn't have had to speed to get away from them; if he had driven normally I think they all would have lived.
No, the driver did NOT “have to” speed…he was also a bit drunk. Also, had that bodyguard done his job and made sure they were all wearing seatbelts, Diana would have easily survived even if they had still crashed.
They cut someone's life short who had so much to give to the needy, sick and two young boys who still needed their mother.
They helped cut the lives of three people short, not just Diana’s life. So yes, they are partially responsible…but I still do not buy that the driver and bodyguard were totally innocent.
The driver should NOT have been speeding, regardless of the paps. It was negligence that killed Diana in the first place, not the initial crash.
Had they not dilly-dallied taking pictures and basking in being seen with the Princess of Wales, they would have rushed her to the hospital immediately and saved her life.
Remember that Diana was a very strong woman, not a weak delicate one, so even with the crash, she could have easily survived had it not been for serious negligence on the part of the bodyguard, who should have INSISTED on backup and a sober driver, and on the part of the driver, who should not have been speeding.
I, unfortunately met Paris Hilton one time when I was in LA.
Yuck. I don’t envy you there.
I have seen rocks that had more intelligence than she does. Not only does the elevator not go to the top. It’s permanently dead in the basement.
Yes, I’ve read that from people who’ve had the misfortune of meeting her. Camvapidmilla so reminds me of Paris Hilton…Camvapidmilla’s elevator is also dead in the basement and Prince Fool’s elevator doesn’t go much higher either.
I think that Camvapidmilla and Prince Fool would fit in far better in the Hollywood zoo with the likes of Paris and Justin Bieber than in England where the majority of the people in their own country have long lost respect for those two bozos.
She’s was so desperately wanting her picture taken and doing her stupid poses and when they were shooting other celebrities and guest she constantly said, Hey I’m here. She was so pathetic, so desperate for attention. No one knew who she was back then.
Also, even now Paris had done nothing to better the world nor has she even had any real roles in any films or anything…she’s just mainly taking up space…a lot like Camvapidmilla and Prince Fool Charles today.
I also laugh because when Wills and Kate and the then-newborn George were getting most of the media attention and all through George’s christening, then the Diana film, Prince Fool Charles very conveniently posed for an issue of Time Magazine that late October, advertising himself as the “forgotten prince.”
In the article, Prince Fool Charles yammered on and on about “serious issues” and indirectly badmouthed his own son, the Middletons and then even took a potstab at his own mother.
He blamed his mother for “chucking out a jewel among the rubbish” then rambled on about how “frivolous” his own son and Kate were and how he was “concerned” about “serious” issues in alleged “contrast.”
Really, Prince Fool Charles, like Paris and Camvapidmilla, did nothing to earn their time in the limelight; notice that we rarely, if ever see Prince Fool Charles really taking action to improve the world, despite his nattering on and on about “serious” issues.
One thing that was admirable about darling Diana…she was a quiet woman of few words who really had little to say, but she in her quiet way, took ACTION to make the world a better place.
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eileen-guthrie555
9 years ago
Americans were NOT the only people who loved Diana. It was the MAJORITY of the BRITISH people who demanded that the flags be lowered to half-mast and that Diana be given the state worldwide respectful funeral she deserved.
And there was nothing an indignant Prince Fool or Philip Imbecile could do to change this.
The news reports from American news networks and cable outlets kept speculating why it took Queen Elizabeth so long to even acknowledged Diana's death. i get it was a private matter and she was trying to help her grandsons understand and come to terms with Diana death but Americans show respect by lowering the flags to heads of states (which was what Diana was, the face of the modern royal family, even if she no longer held her title), Presidents, Governor's, well-known politicians and Presidents cabinet members, General's and most heads of the armed forces. When a Broadway star/actor passes away, all the theaters turn their lights off to show respect. It just seemed a little perplexing that our banks and government buildings put our flags at half staff in acknowledgment of her passing but the royal family did not. She was still the mother of a future King.
Lots of them are…I’m glad I’ve never had to deal with them. I’d never want to be famous because of the paps.
Me either. My dad worked in the entertainment industry (NY which is a lot better then CA) but some celebrities are just pampered, spoil brats and because of his job, I've met a lot of actors/celebrities. The newer ones are generally not nice people, rude even nasty but I loved meeting older Broadway and film actors, they generally would stop, talk and were more respectful to fans. So I'm not impressed by them.
But, I can understand now a little bit why some celebrities hit/punch paps. I just thought Sean Penn was a hot head and quick to anger. Knowing back in the 80's Madonna loved the attention and knowing she needed that attention to feel famous and wanted, she would put herself in these situations, wanting "her" man to defend her. They were like water and oil.
Also, even now Paris had done nothing to better the world nor has she even had any real roles in any films or anything…she’s just mainly taking up space…a lot like Camvapidmilla and Prince Fool Charles today.
OMG, you haven't heard, she now has her own line of hair extensions. She's gonna change the world. Let's face it she's really not that smart or motivated to look for a "real" job. She lives off of her grandfathers inheritance, goes to clubs in LA and gets paid for her appearance. A bonus if she brings other celebrities with her. She takes up too much air. She cannot act unless it's stand over there, don't talk, don't say a word and look pretty, OK show me your pout. Her parents own one of the largest real estate firms in the US. Americans generally despises her for being a pampered Princess and her belief she's entitled because of her last name, which was why so many were happy when she got into some legal trouble a few years ago. She was sentence to jail time, got angry at her lawyer because he couldn't get her off for not appearing in court when the judge ordered her too and blew it off. She spent all of 45 minutes in a jail cell, away from the general population all by herself. Boo Woo. She was supposed to be in there for a few for days, but for "good behavior' and "over crowding" she was released to her lawyer.
She's not motivated to use her celebrity for a good or noble cause. She's famous for being famous and that is all. She doesn't visit sick children in hospitals or use her celebrity to bring a disease or help find a cure for a disease. We did hear her say once "Eeew, sick people make me sick." Again, struck in the basement. The Hilton/Richard's family are just people who feel entitled. But her mother does do a lot in fundraising for one of the children's hospitals in LA.
I also laugh because when Wills and Kate and the then-newborn George were getting most of the media attention and all through George’s christening, then the Diana film, Prince Fool Charles very conveniently posed for an issue of Time Magazine that late October, advertising himself as the “forgotten prince.”
How pathetic? Look at me. I have a feeling that Charles will never be King but I could see Will jumping in line. Is it Princess Camilla?
Really, Prince Fool Charles, like Paris and Camvapidmilla, did nothing to earn their time in the limelight; notice that we rarely, if ever see Prince Fool Charles really taking action to improve the world, despite his nattering on and on about “serious” issues.
I hope the reporter asked what "serious" issue are you referring too? Can you elaborate? He would become a stuttering fool.
Okay, let me ask how accurate was the movie "The Queen" with Helen Mirren? I think she did an amazing acting job playing QE.
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lrdcharlton
9 years ago
Americans show respect by lowering the flags to heads of states (which was what Diana was, the face of the modern royal family, even if she no longer held her title), Presidents, Governor's, well-known politicians and Presidents cabinet members, General's and most heads of the armed forces. When a Broadway star/actor passes away, all the theaters turn their lights off to show respect. It just seemed a little perplexing that our banks and government buildings put our flags at half staff in acknowledgment of her passing but the royal family did not. She was still the mother of a future King.
And what country was she the Head of State for? At that point she wasn't even royal and if she was it still didn't matter as the flag only flew when the Queen was in was there. The flag never flew half mast for anyone, not even a dead sovereign. So why was Diana so special to receive such an honor that no other royal previously had. She was the ex wife of Prince Charles and not longer a official member of the Windsor household.I also do not recall anyone in america lowering there flags for her as she was not an American and had nothing to do with us.
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