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A question for the folks who live in the States


Guys, i have an honest question
Are foreign movies really that rejected in the states? From all the talking I've seen here you don't seem to have movie theaters screening european, latin american, african or asian movies that often.
The same goes to movies with subtitles. Is it really impossible to find them?
I do understand some movies having a hard time geting to other countries. It is actually sad because many powerful works of art don't get to touch as many people they could... But El Secreto de tus Ojos was not only a powerful movie, but a major success!
I love movies and I thing I was born in the perfect city for that. We have all sorts of movie festivals and all kinds of genres! But I guessed folks from cities such as NY, Washington,LA and Chicago for instance would also have access to this kind of cosmopolitan cultural heritage and would profit from it. I've been to NY and you guys have some of the best museums in the planet! Movie theaters can't be that behind!
I won't deal with the Secret in their eyes issue anymore. The damage was done... If IMDB is only about teen movies these days, there is no point in having such discussion.

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I prefer movies that I can watch, not where I have to read subtitles. If I want to read, I'll get a book.

If more foreign movies were dubbed into English, I'd probably watch them.

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Good point. Sometimes the audio is bad in English-speaking movies, so, I'll put on the subtitles. While reading my eyes are off the actors' facial expressions and everything they're doing.

There are some non-English speaking movies without a lot of dialogue. Subtitles for them are less of a problem.

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I've spent a big portion of my life backpacking around the world and I used to be very impatient with my hometown Midwesterners who never even entertained the notion of getting a passport, or sometimes even getting on an airplane.

But I've relaxed my judgmental attitude a bit recently. The US is a giant land mass country and people who live in small countries with an entirely different culture right next door have a good headstart on "thinking internationally" and being exposed to a less homogenous mix of people.

The rail/bus systems and the inexpensive hostels are other advantages that encourage young people in other countries to get out and explore. I've traveled in the US and *yikes* even with my own car, I'd frequently get stuck paying $60-90 for a hotel room. Meeting locals or other travelers was difficult.

So this is all a long-winded prelude to the subtitle issue. I've seen a LOT of movies in other countries and it's common to see subtitles. Sometimes I'd wind up in a movie with the audio in one language I didn't know and the subtitles in a different language I didn't know, but which was the most common language to a major portion of the population.

I don't think Americans are necessarily lazier or more stubborn or more stupid than other moviegoers. It's just that Hollywood is such a cinematic juggernaut that it's easy to grow up seeing 100% of your movies without any writing running along the bottom of the screen.

[Parents, stretch your children's minds! Watch some foreign movies, invest in a passport to start them considering the possibilities, at least shop the foreign foods aisle at Walmart.]

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Personally, I like watching foreign films, especially if there is an American remake so I can compare. They are kind of hard to find. Unless it shows up on Netflix, I usually don't get a chance to see it.

Most times the American remake is not as good (usually because they are watered down to get a PG-13 rating), but not always. I actually preferred the American version of The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo. Don't get me wrong. The Swedish version is excellent as well. But the American version is a much better adaptation of the book, in my opinion.

I really liked the American version of this film, so I'll look out for the original. Hopefully, it pops up on Netflix and I can watch it....

Please stop.

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Major cities and college towns have theaters we call "art houses". They mostly show independent and foreign films. Only rarely do foreign language films make it to the multiplex theaters. I remember years ago seeing the Chinese film Hero in one and they had to put a sign in front informing people that it had subtitles and they would not be offering refunds. Between American and British films plus English language films from Australia, New Zealand and elsewhere, Americans have plenty to choose from without watching films in other languages. I agree that's a shame, but it's just how it is. So yes, when a foreign film is remade into an American version, most Americans hadn't seen the original. And I have to admit that even though I see a lot of foreign films, I had not even hear of El Secreto de tus Ojos and wouldn't have if I hadn't come across the remake. But I'll say what I say about other remakes: they didn't ruin anything. The original is still available if people want to watch that. Rather than trash the American version, why not just suggest that people also check out the original! That might get more people to see a movie that you clearly think a lot of.

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Watch a movie in your own language and turn on the subtitles for that language. While reading the subtitles you will notice what you're missing in the behavior and facial mannerisms of the characters.

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Watch a movie in your own language and turn on the subtitles for that language. While reading the subtitles you will notice what you're missing in the behavior and facial mannerisms of the characters.
^^^Excellent experiment for everyone to perform! ^^^

Subtitles are an excellent for clarifying complicated or fast dialogue, but, unless a movie is totally bereft of excellent actors, you lose a lot by reading the words instead of listening while you watch the characters. A good example of this is watching an actor like Chiewetel Ejiofor who does so much with just his eyes.

...and ALL the actors in this movie were excellent and well directed!

Peace! 


On November 6, 2012 god blessed America...again. 

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