Now that Sara Gilbert bid farewell to the show “ she created” ( with a lot of help from “ The View”) will anyone notice she’s not there next season? She was as interesting as watching wallpaper peel, void of any personality.
Now if they would only get rid of that drunken mess Sharon Osborne....
Well you’re the psychic. You could look into your crystal ball an- Oh, that’s right. Your “prediction” about the show getting canceled turned out to be false. Never mind...
Sharon being a drunken mess and needing to go, true. Don’t need to be psychic to know that, obviously.
I say nobody misses her since no one noticed her for 9 years. That’s my prediction.
shareMore like you don’t WANT anyone to miss her just because you don’t like her. Hate to break it to you but not everybody is as miserable as you are.
Then again you’re a nobody and you’ve noticed her for 9 years so I guess you got one right this time.
Thank God all your fan letters to the network is keeping it on in September! You must’ve gone through many boxes of crayons to write those letters.
shareAren’t I lucky? ;) Unlike you I write and draw with the crayons. I don’t eat them. I will never understand the minds of the bitter and deranged. And don’t want to.
shareBut you’re still eating those Tide Pods and Silica packs despite the warnings not to.
You poor pathetic thing.
“You poor pathetic thing.”
You’re so blinded by your own ignorance you can’t even see that you just described yourself to a T. Projecting your feelings of self-loathing onto others and getting your parrot to mindlessly agree with your every word won’t change a thing or make you feel any better. You don’t have to be the smelly weird kid no one would play with anymore. Just seek help. Starting with a bath. With soap.
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It’s the only way he can get attention, bless his empty soul. I don’t think he’s ever posted anything substantial or halfway intelligent (makes it easier for his lame brain lemming to understand and mindlessly agree with whatever the numbskull excrete- I mean “reports”. The imbecile really thinks copying and pasting other people’s articles makes him a “writer”. Just like playing with his toy cash register and Barbies makes him a “business owner”.) and if he did it must’ve been buried underneath all the tween girl name calling (“like, you’re, like, totes a T-Rumptard! Like, EEW!”). I doubt it though. Just swishing and flinging around limp wrists, lisping the same bullshit over and over. What a pathetic, one-note existence.
shareBwah! He reminds me of someone that used to do that elsewhere....... He's just like those imbeciles that read an article. Then they go copy and paste what they just read into the comments of the article that everyone just read and is commenting about. What the ???? Really?
shareOMG, it was laughable the way they kept going on about how Sara (the program creator) introduced this brand new innovative idea for a show centered around women, nearly a decade ago (2010).
Sorry gals but The View bested you all 13 years prior to that when Barbara Walters brought her show to the table in 1997...and Les Moonves sticking his wife Julie Chen in the driver's seat was nepotism at it's best...
I don't dislike Sara and I really do wish her well BUT while Sara might have created this version of a talk show by picking her choices for the female casting, for Christ sakes, she didn't invent the idea for this type of show...
I didn't realize yesterday was Sara's final show. I happened to be channel surfing and caught the beginning. While I thought Carrie Ann and Sheryl's goodbyes to Sara were heartfelt, I have to say that I thought Eve's goodbye was awkward at best. I think she was trying to cry or look emotional but she didn't pull it off. I didn't stick around to see Sharon's farewell to Sara.
I saw some promos this week saying it was her last show, which is why I DVR'd it. I can't recall the last time I sat down to watch the show, though.
What everyone forgets is that CBS was looking for a 'View' copycat for quite some time, and in late 2009 they had created a project with Paula Dean (remember her?) as moderator, and Valerie Bertinelli and Kate Gosselin (remember her?) as the cohosts. The fourth cohost was still undecided and they auditioned a number of women for the fourth seat - including Gilbert. None of the cast was clicking (I remember at one point they dropped Dean and brought in Osborne) , but after a few months Moonves dropped the whole project. Months later he revived it asked Gilbert, Osborne and Gosselin back (she moved on to something else) and then added his wife and looked for two more hosts. It came back in 2010 as this.
Yet now, Sara has been the scapegoat and takes full credit for this mess? Yikes !
You know I don't recall any of that stuff with Paula Dean or Valerie...
I just don't know how they can keep saying with a straight face that Sara created this fabulous blueprint for a new show idea blah blah blah...
It's laughable at best...
Pardon me, Blah Blah Sheep. I asked you a question on the other thread and you have yet to answer despite your lengthy monologues elsewhere. Care to answer or would that take you off-script?
shareWhy they can't tell the truth that this had been in the works for a while (say, 13 years) , long before Gilbert was cast is beyond me. I guess they have those nimwits who believe this crap.
I'll try to find the articles on Dean, Gosselin and Bertinelli....
Yeah okay...
Was this around the time that Dean had that big scandal?
It was right before, I believe. Too bad they didn't go with their original idea and hire her - the scandal would have brought them incredible ratings.
shareYeah but I still think that it the scandal happened during the show they would have dropped her like a hot potato instead of sticking it out with her...
shareI think the exact same thing. If someone says or does something stupid like throwing out racial slurs you should reward them by keeping them around. You don’t throw them out on their ear and replace them with people with something as boring as ethics. Who wants to see that? There are ratings at stake and that’s what matters the most. Sure does.
shareDefinitely they would have dropped her (like 'The Chew' dropped that host when everyone accused him of sexual misconduct), but people would've tuned into this show to see what it was all about. Controversy brings ratings - though it's up to the network to sustain them.
shareYou think so? I mean, nobody tuned in when Julie’s husband was accused of sexual harassment and she announced her departure so why would they watch if Paula Deen had been a host? No matter what they do no one clicks over to them. It’s dead.
shareOh, wasn't that Mario Batali? Yeah it's funny but I had heard negative stuff about him before this misconduct went down. It wasn't sexual in nature but just how he ran his businesses.
Apparently, he was a real ass and would take part of the tip money that was earned by the servers, dishwashers...his workers I think tried to call him on it too...
I mean come on, like he needed the damn money...
Here's the early press when Gosselin and Dean were first approached and wanted to center around "moms" at the table. Sound familiar?
From September 2009, before 'Gilbert's show' aired 13 months later:
http://www.justjared.com/2009/09/15/kate-gosselin-paula-deen-talk-show/
https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/kate-gosselin-share-view-talk-show-article-1.385965
https://www.today.com/popculture/will-kate-gosselin-get-her-own-tv-talk-show-wbna32958208
https://www.celebitchy.com/71325/kate_gosselin_shoots_a_talk_show_pilot_with_paula_deen/
https://everything-pr.com/momlogic-kate-gosselin/
From December, 2009:
https://parade.com/110126/parade/kate-gosselin-cut-from-new-paula-deen-talk-show/
Good they didn’t hire either. Gosselin was always unlikable and Deen’s N word controversy would’ve hurt the show. Of course you would’ve enjoyed that... despite your (what I doubt anyone could call a) life still being a miserable mess. Such a dimwit and a proud one at that.
Fab4Gal, I know you’ll continue to ignore my question (although you’ve had more than enough time to come up with at least one lie) so I’ll see you come September. Have a nice hiatus in the drawer and don’t forget your lines your idiotic owner gives you (“Thanks soooo much for the stories! I’d never heard about it until now. You’re the just the best!”). You should know it by heart since it’s the same three sentences you repeat ad nauseam. Signing off... Blah blah blah...
Well even when they had started up and had Sara, Sharon, Holly, Leah and wasn't it Melissa Jared Winnocur? Sorry I didn't look anything up, I am just merely trying to remember this but anyhow they touted themselves as being a show more for moms to discuss issues with kids etc...
I guess they found that this formula didn't work because not everyone has kids etc...
Yes, it was with MJW. They quickly dropped the 'mommy concept' by mid-season, when they realized the show was failing. They then became 'celebrity gossip central' and dropped MJW.
shareThey should’ve kept the ‘mommy concept’ since the show was a failure from day one. You know with Les getting the boot CBS will finally give up and just cancel this crap. Nobody is watching or even gossiping about it on the first page of the board. Close up shop already, CBS!
shareI remember when they announced that she was leaving....so awkward...I guess they realized that they needed to be gossip central to survive...
I can't remember who it was but some guest razzed them about four or five months ago about their need for cue cards to talk about things...can't remember his name...but it's true...they can't honestly have a convo without some sort of back up...
Right?! It’s so frustrating! Like, how long can you keep this charade up before the handful of people who waste their lives watching this poorly scripted mess get a clue and flip to The View for good? Almost a decade?! SMH. Gossiping gossipers gossiping about nothing are just plain stupid. Hit the nail right on the head yet again!
And the guest who razzed them was Santa, I think. Might’ve been the Easter Bunny (slumming for guests much?) My memory gets foggy when it comes to this show. It’s so not worth anybody’s time.
They can't talk about anything without a script in front of them. And very limited in their conversations - which is why the audience likes them.
shareRight on! I couldn’t figure out why people (all 5 of them) would like their scripted conversations but you SO nailed it, being the voice of that audience and all. Limited conversations for simple minds. Makes total sense why you’re a faithful viewer despite not having a mind at all. Tee hee!
shareI was kind of shocked that the guest poked fun at them for not being able to carry on a convo without "help"...haha!
shareHaha! Totally awks! Did you see their faces after he said that?! If looks could kill...
shareI’ll have to see if it’s on YouTube.
shareYes, for the life of me I can't remember who it was...I've had no luck but I haven't searched too hard (yet)....lol
Sounds like something Howard Stern would say.
shareIt does but I don’t think it was him. He wouldn’t waste his time coming anywhere near this show.
shareYeah it does hey? I can picture him doing that...good old Howard. He calls them like he sees them...lol
But from what I can remember it was someone from the cast of one of those CBS shows like, Bull? Maybe it was Michael Weatherly??? You know how they always bring on people from the CBS family like The Young & The Restless or one of their nighttime shows? It was so funny when he razzed them....so awkward...hehe
Good luck finding it. Even YouTube ignores this show. But if you manage to find it in the darkest corner of the internet... or Narnia... or Never Never Land.. you’ll split your sides! It was EPIC! HAHA!
shareWhat was different about The Talk is that they said from the first they would exclude politics. That's what was innovative.
That's also what's looking like a mistake now; all anyone can think about anymore is politics. Every now and then they tiptoe into it, but it never seems to work well. Even worse, when there is a major story with political overtones, they're unable to discuss it. This makes watching very weird, like they're ignoring the elephant in the room. Eventually the show will be forced to change in this regard, I believe, or go away.
I miss Sara. She and Aisha -- who I miss even more -- were to me the most intelligent and logical talkers.
That’s why avoiding political topics is a good thing though. Politics is in the forefront so much that some people want a respite. Love it or hate it, you know what you’re getting with this show and what works best for them. Besides they’re hardly the only show that doesn’t discuss politics (The Real, for example) and if the others can make it without completely overhauling their format I don’t see why this one can’t too.
Ditto on missing Sara and Aisha. Aisha especially was always able to play devil’s advocate and see both sides of an issue. Sara did as well.
Yeah, though as you say, there are lots of other shows that avoid politics. All food shows, for example. Home and garden. Etc.
What I think will be a problem is that this is a main network show. They need to have the broadest audience possible and with people cutting the cord that's becoming more and more the case. A show that deliberately cuts itself off from a big topic people are talking about is going to hurt itself. Especially with the election season ramping up. You see this with late night where the most political show -- Colbert -- is winning the ratings. Other shows can have all the Democratic candidates on; this one will suffer in comparison. I think the show will try to address this by having a Diane Sawyer type come on for a recurring "Explaining Current Events" segment and things like that.
Now that Sara and Aisha are gone, curious who you are most tuning in to see? For me, though there are rough moments as she is in the process still of learning how to do a show like this, I have the most hopes for Carrie Ann.
You make some valid points and I would completely agree with you if they never discussed serious topics but they occasionally do. It’s just not political. Last election, for example, they discussed the Trump/Billy Bush tape and the issue of consent/sexual harassment (a bit ironic looking back after the Moonves scandal, but I digress). Was it the deepest conversation on television? Maybe not, but it was something that was addressed and spoken about.
You mentioned Colbert leading the other late night shows in the ratings with a more politically-driven approach, but the other late night shows (as far as I know) aren’t in danger of cancellation for not following suit. I mentioned The Real specifically because, like this show, it’s focused on non-political discussion but isn’t afraid to approach more serious topics when needed (the R(apist) Kelly story is one example).
I tune in for Carrie Ann as well and Sheryl when she’s not cracking jokes for cheap laughs. I don’t mind Eve or Marie. The only one I loathe is Sharon.
BTW thanks for having a civil, intelligent conversation. They’re few and far between around here, as you can see. :)
Yes, but even when they do it, doesn't it seem kind of awkward?
Sure, but late night is more of a staple, less on the bubble than this type of show.
Really never watch The Real so cannot intelligently comment.
I disagree with Sharon quite often, but have to admit she's rarely boring. That's saying something at least.
Thanks, you as well. You don't need to remind me. :)
Depends on the topic. Sometimes racial topics, for example, are handled fairly well and other times I don’t know why they bother because they seem too nervous about offending people or getting their opinions misconstrued, which is somewhat understandable in this current “cancel culture” climate.
I don’t find Sharon boring either but I don’t find her entertaining either. In my opinion she’s mean spirited, self absorbed and behaves like she’s the star of the show and the others must kiss the ring (which they do all the time). She’s also quick to get a laugh at someone else’s expense. When she’s away the energy is different and more relaxed. To me anyway. :)
...Just when I thought you were a poster with a mind of your own you show me you're one of the Stepford Idiots. You're really, really stupid and fake. Oh, well...
So initially in season one, I believe that this was supposed to be a show for mothers and such to have support for their family and all that yada yada but when they found that it didn't work against other shows they more or less turned into TMZ Part Deux...
Yes, I mean I don't think they have to talk about politics every day but how about once in a while when it warrants it...lately it seems like it's warranted every day what with the turn style at the door of the White House etc...you know, when something happens (other than a school shooting where they send their condolences) they can't seem to acknowledge anything political going on in your country or with your President and that just makes them look inept so much so that it's obvious that they can't handle the topic enough to talk about it...and the cue cards make it look bad as well...as I mentioned above, Sharon doesn't have them and I think that's just because she can't stay on topic enough to peer down at them...she's a loose cannon so they probably figure it's best to just let her roll with it...
Occasionally something heavy will get discussed and Sheryl will go from telling bad jokes to being sensitive and I think that's when she actually has some appeal...
Aisha was good and she seemed smart enough to discuss topics but lord why is Eve there? I always felt that Sara was uncomfortable in her role...
Yes, you make a lot of good points about politics, Sheryl, Aisha, Eve and Sara. I think Sara felt okay being a participant, but didn't like being the one leading the parade. It's interesting that now they've given that job to the newcomer Carrie Ann for the most part. Must have been an interesting decision there. Well, maybe nobody else wanted it. Eve is probably the token younger person?
shareYes, exactly! Sara was more or less forced into it after the whole Julie Chen thing happened...
I also thought it was kind of interesting that Carrie Ann, who hasn't been there but a minute seems to have been given the lead-off position...I don't think Sharon wanted it because she's not really a good talker (teleprompter or cue card wise) but yes, maybe nobody else wanted it...I thought maybe Marie would have assumed the position...
I think Eve is there for the younger crowd as you mentioned...maybe they think they're getting a big music crowd by having her...I highly doubt it...she's no Beyonce...there are so many other people they could have had there as a host...I think she and the other ladies have zero chemistry together...
Yes, maybe they're hoping Marie will take it over eventually, once she's ready.
Yes, I find myself tuning out when she's speaking and probably couldn't pick her out of a lineup.
I think maybe Marie didn't want to come onto the show and have it seem like she was taking over the whole thing so perhaps that's why she is more or less in the background for now...probably a wise move...
I did chuckle at how Marie was making fun of herself with the facial expressions because of how some people said she looked like wax...I always thought she had the most beautiful skin and facial features...very surprised that people are so harsh on her but then again that's social media for you...
I've been watching it off and on in the background mostly while I do other things so I was surprised that from what I could see, they avoided mentioning the anniversary of today's date...
“It’s interesting that now they’ve given that job to the newcomer Carrie Ann for the most part. Must have been an interesting decision there.”
It was a natural decision since she shared moderating duties with Sara since she started in January. It wouldn’t make sense to give it to Marie.
Agreed. Carrie Ann had been sharing the moderating duties with Sara. Why would Marie come in and take it over? Besides I have a feeling Marie will be gone a lot, like Sharon. After watching yesterday's fake cry fest I won't be missing her when she does go out!
shareYou think it was all fake? Maybe it was. I’ll hand it her though. At least Marie can shed actual tears. Aside from boohooing like a baby when Sara announced her departure (“We’re sinking and I can’t swim!”) she just scrunches up her face and puts on a fake quivering voice. The phony.
I hope Eve slipped the makeover woman a check because no one would say they like her for free...
I haven't been watching lately. But Sara was the weakest link in this show. I know it was her show, but she was best when injecting the insight of the outsider opinion into things. Less is more with her personality, but a welcome personality. The show took a bad turn when she became the moderator and it will be stronger without her.
shareSara always came across as the loner in the schoolyard, that no one could befriend no matter how they tried. She always looked like she'd rather be somewhere else than there, and had no interest in the show 'she created'.
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