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Seriously? What an awful film


I'm not on here to troll or deride this film without reason.

I have to say once in a long while does a movie come along that truly makes you scratch your head and wonder what the heck people must be smoking when they call a movie great. I'm truly stunned by this one.

Let me explain this criticism. So:

1) You have an unlikable obnoxious and unfunny male who treats life like a joke, drinks non-stop and is completely selfish and self-centered
2) You have a supposedly 'intelligent' girl who falls for this guy for the sole reason, as far as I can tell, that she wants to date one of the cool kids. He treats her like a door mat while getting drunk around her constantly. Did they have one honest moment together when he wasn't drinking? She seems to feed him booze because I guess those are the only times he's nice to her
3) There are no authentic scenes with them together. She seems to be his second choice the entire film. The ENTIRE film he is pursuing the blonde and would be WITH THE BLONDE IF SHE LET HIM, yet we are meant to root for this halfhearted joke of a relationship because she's apparently painfully desperate and he needs what to him is little more than an obvious distraction
4) He has daddy issues. Who honestly cares? 95% of the population has parental issues. Is this supposed to make it ok for him to act like a complete scum bag for 95% of the movie?
5) She never cares that any promises he makes her are while drinking? Seriously? How naive and innocent can a person be? Why does she love him? Hes decent looking and tells jokes and has zero substance? What the f---? What in the film exists that could make anyone buy into this relationship? Oh wait they both have parental issues. That makes it work. Riggghttt. He indirectly causes her to get hit by a car (Ha!) and that makes her love him more.
6) The 'first time' sex scene was completely unbelievable. As many guys and girls know the first time for a chick can be painful. Her face looked like she was getting a back rub. Totally(not surprisingly) fluffed up
7) So at the end he figures 'hey maybe I am a total jerk off, maybe I should work on that' and the audience is supposed to say 'Aw he cried to his mom, thats so emotional, he wants to be better' and people buy this nonsense?
8) Everything from the direction to the soundtrack to the pacing to the acting was completely lackluster. Snobs call this understated I guess right?

Seriously. That isn't even it. I could go on, and on and on about this one.

Anyone who lists this movie among the top of the year is on another planet. I guess its that easy for people to 'drink the koolaid'. I can't fathom any other explanation for it. I'd welcome any counter arguments because I am lost on this one. Truly, TRULY awful film and story on so many levels. Treats its characters and audience like children.

1 out of 10. Easy.

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I agree with OP but not in those words.

It's a nice movie with a good intention but the storyline is nothing special. The acting was good but neither was there a lot of chemistry between the two protagonists.

The story is very plain and doesn't deserve the 7,3 rating by any means. It's an enjoyable movie but that's as good as it gets.

It disappointed me, that's all I'll say.

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Alright, aside from what the others discussed here, I wanted to bring in my own opinion of your critic as well.

1) You have an unlikable obnoxious and unfunny male who treats life like a joke, drinks non-stop and is completely selfish and self-centered

True, although this is not criticism yet.

2) You have a supposedly 'intelligent' girl who falls for this guy for the sole reason, as far as I can tell, that she wants to date one of the cool kids. He treats her like a door mat while getting drunk around her constantly. Did they have one honest moment together when he wasn't drinking? She seems to feed him booze because I guess those are the only times he's nice to her

5) She never cares that any promises he makes her are while drinking? Seriously? How naive and innocent can a person be? Why does she love him? Hes decent looking and tells jokes and has zero substance? What the f---? What in the film exists that could make anyone buy into this relationship? Oh wait they both have parental issues. That makes it work. Riggghttt. He indirectly causes her to get hit by a car (Ha!) and that makes her love him more.


Here, I think, you miss a little of what the film portrays: I'm pretty sure she doesn't just want to date a cool kid. Being really into the movie I enjoyed analyzing her character and from my point of view, Aimee is a girl that - without admitting to herself - has so much pressure put on her in terms of the loss of her Dad, the need of making a living and the goal of being good in school that she hardly has had any time for interpersonal relationships. While being the strong person she needs to be to go through this she obviously has a major lack of self-esteem and I do believe that Shailene Woodley portrayed that incredibly good if not perfect (I'm pretty much in love with her since Descendants though, so I might be wrong :p ).
What I'm trying to say is basically that when Sutter doesn't make fun out of her, when he makes her feel like she can be herself around him and has not to be embarassed at all, I think that is huge for Aimee. One important thing to add: Sutter, although drunk all the time, nonetheless means it when he tells her the things he says, yes, he does. It is weakening his message that he is drunk, you're perfectly right with that (this is by the way one of the morals of this story imo), but never does he say it malicious, never does he say it just to get her to have sex with him or whatever.
What you say about how she is naive etc., I do believe that if you honestly rethink this you will see that this is absolutely likely to happen in real life. Seriously, we've all been through such relationships or seen them somewhere at our friends.

Everything else that you say, I think, are not bad things, but, from my point of view, exactly what the film tries to portray and I honestly enjoyed seeing it because it made me dislike the main character (and that was the purpose!), but it made me deeply understand Aimee, it made me affected because it showed a broken teenager already being an alcoholic but still managed to not evaluating itself but just to show what happened. There's much more that I could tell about why I think this is a good picture, but I think this got too long already. Two things I'd like to add: While I liked the ending and I liked that he made the decision to change, I can understand that you consider it too incredible. That's a matter of taste perhaps. Secondly, I considered Woodley's and Teller's acting to be wonderful and really deep.

So far so me, excuse my flawy English, it's not my native language.

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me and my gf cannot agree with joe more....

completely shallow characters, no story flow (feels like they hacked a bunch of scenes together), predictable story lines (except for her getting hit by the car), degrading message to all women (yay! be ditsy, dump your friends and stick to some drunk douche no matter what). overall it was completely unsatisfactory, wasn't funny and had no emotional pull. i'd not recommend it to anyone. and we LOVED 500 days of summer.

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I agree completely, thank god there is sanity out there. This film was not realistic in my eyes

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I COULDNT AGREE WITH YOU MORE!

I havent even finished it yet because I am so mad! This girl is way too sweet and he literally kicked her out of his car at night in the middle of nowhere as hes screaming at her and she still takes him back?! even after she gets whaled by a *beep* car! omg im so mad!
What kind of self-respect is that?!

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Wasn't a fan of the movie but I've got to say, a lot of your criticism seems to stem from the fact that they weren't a Hollywood movie couple. It was a pretty meh movie but I have to say, I found it refreshing that Miles Teller's character was a total typical guy and Shailene Woodley's character was a total typical girl. The relationship you described as making the movie "awful" is the exact relationship that a lot of young people are having right now. She's way too invested in a relationship that's going nowhere and he's never really all that invested at all. I liked that it wasn't a typical Hollywood movie romance where he realizes that she's the love of his life and all those quirks that turned him off at first are really everything he loves about her. A lot of guys would have treated her the same way. It was more real this way and I think that was kind of the point.

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