MovieChat Forums > Lo imposible (2013) Discussion > What is it with all the racism???

What is it with all the racism???


First, I am of mixed origin. Part asian, part caucasian and thanks to a caucasian male who pushed me out of the water I am alive today - he is not.

It took me 3 tries to see the whole movie, not because it was bad, but because the memories it brought back to me. But I went to see it because I needed to see it, I needed to feel something about it all. I needed to remember because I can't remember what the guy who saved me looked like any longer - I remember his expression, when he lost his grip and was taken, but his looks is lost like so many other things from that day. I can remember all the silly things me and my friends did before it all happend, but I can't feel the fear and horror any longer, I can't remember the running or when I was in the water trying to get some air. But I still remember the sounds so clearly. So to me this movie was very personal and I could care less about caucasian or spanish actors or what color their skin now might be, because it is not that important to the story and it is impossible to tell every story about everyone who was there and who lost someone in one single movie.

The show was about one family - one out of thousands and how they found each other again, against all odds. Remember more than 200,000 (I dont know the exact number) people did not make it and I feel sad and horrified that someone actually make this about race and start politicizing it, could we for once not talk about race and just once in the history of humanity be one family?

I know - or as far as I remember it, that on that day, no one spoke or talked about race or color and only how we all could help each other to get through it all together. The people in Thailand, no matter if they were locals or foreigners did an amazing task to help and support everyone who needed help and again, it was from what I experienced it, irregardless of race.

I don't wish anyone to experience what I experienced, but I wish that people for once could show some empathy.

reply

Thank you for pointing out that people are people and that race doesn't matter all that much when it comes to something as tragic as a tsunami. I recently visited the Tsunami Museum in Hilo, Hawaii and I was just as moved by what I saw there as I was from the scenes in this movie. The exhibits there focus on a school teacher from the mainland U.S. who had recently moved to Hawaii and was nearly killed by a tsunami. She isn't the focus because she was white and could draw an audience into a theatre, but because she kept a diary and took photos that were appropriate for that exhibit. Her experience as expressed through her photos and words is very moving just like this film. I would be just as moved by this film if the stars were Thai but I don't consider it racist that they are not. You were actually there and I can't imagine what it was like to watch this film from your perspective but I do see how petty it is that people have criticized the film because the stars are not Thai. Why should anyone care who stars in a movie like this? The filmmakers goal was simply to get the audience to feel empathy for people like yourself who experienced this tragedy. Even if the particular family they chose to focus on wasn't Thai, they succeeded in that regard.

reply

I'm Asian and I understand why Asians were left out of the picture, or rather this picture. The producers are Spanish and they chose to tell the story about a Spanish family who survived this tragedy against all odds. Their ordeal was heart-wrenching and ultimately inspiring, so why shouldn't their story be told in a movie? And yes what happened to this Spanish family may also have happened to many Thais. But I guess it will have to take an Asian film company to tell their stories on film.

And so why did they change the nationality of the family? It would have been easy to cast Penelope Cruz and Antonio Banderas in the leads, but it would have been awkward to have them speak in English, especially when realism is important for a movie like this. The natural thing for them to have done is to speak Spanish. But then, this would have been considered a foreign-language film in the US, thus limiting its box office potential

Here's my opinion: The Spanish have such a distinctive culture and cultural traits might have had to be incorporated into the characters. This would have distracted audiences from the main narrative.So the issue here isn't about race; it's actually about culture. Spain is predominantly Catholic; and if my instincts are right, the Spanish family did a lot of praying during their ordeal. I wouldn't be surprised if they recited the Rosary during the worst moments. And if they did pray, I'm sure they acknowledged how prayer had helped them survive. But no, the filmmakers decided they can't have that in the script because they weren't making a religious movie. They wanted a clear cut narrative so they couldn't have miracles happening here, even if what happened at the end of the film -- the impossible -- is nothing short of a miracle.

reply

no... it's the pathetic way that the producer and director made it about an English family. no attempt to see or feel how the Thai where going about it... they were just back round.

reply

I feel like both sides of the argument have some weight. The family is portrayed through a pretty narrow scope, and almost everyone they interact with is also of Western descent. Furthermore, early on when Lucas and Maria are driving down the road in the bed of the truck, it seemed that every victim on the shoulder of the road was also a Western tourist.

That being said, the story is, foremost, about the family - not a chronicle of the tsunami itself. Therefore, the narrow scope is to be expected to some extent. As for only seeming to encounter a bunch of other white people along the way, I would imagine that these characters are, at least to a pretty good extent, based on actual individuals with whom the real family directly interacted. As was stated above, some of the cultures of these individuals may have been altered for film distribution and reception purposes.

Also, it may have been mentioned but I am not going to comb through every post on this thread, as far as changing a Spanish family to an English family is concerned, I was under the impression that Maria Belon chose Naomi Watts to portray her. I feel as if that is a relevant point to make as far as this situation is concerned. Source: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar%C3%ADa_Bel%C3%B3n , citation 6)

reply

I agree.

This movie is pretty ridiculous. I understand that its about ONE family and the family just happens to be anglo-saxon looking whites (they're actually spanish but whatever) but my gripe is with how the directors treated the EXTRAS. The white background characters where given overwhelming priority over any local characters.

From the german father being reunited with his son at the hospital (with touching lifetime piano music to boot), to the boy seeming to have a VERY skewed preference for helping white people at the hospital (even though there seems to be a 50/50 split of tourist and locals at the hospital), to hearing/seeing quick clips of crying blue eyed white tourist (again, very sad, but extremely skewed. Where are the locals?).

I felt that at times the locals were even almost a NUISANCE for the main white protagonists. We have the boy crying for his mother who was moved from her bed (which of course, the local thai hospital staff just scoff at him and give him annoying glances) to the thai driver who impatiently looks at his watch with an irritated attitude. And the rest of the background locals are virtually non-existent. We see a room full of children (the majority of them, presumably orphaned and emotionally damaged) but STOP THE PRESS....theres an aryan, blond-hair blue eyed white kid in there! I mean its sad that the asian kids lost their parents but lets not give any of them more than 2 seconds of screentime because theres a blond white kid in there!

By the end of the film, I was under the impression that the locals went through this kind of thing everyday given their lack of reaction. It was like, "Oh yeah, tsunami...no big deal! It happens all the time! We've been through much worse! :D" ...I don't know, thats just the honest vibe I was getting from the movie. You don't see any of their hardships but you DO get to see plenty of the white background tourist crying, supporting each other, reuniting with families, etc.

I believe with a few tasteful considerations that director could've easily avoided any claims of racism but after watching this film, I have to honestly say, it was VERY skewed. I wouldn't necessarily say racist (as I believe racism has to be intentional and I don't think it was the case) but again, definitely skewed. As I watched the film I couldn't help but think that the director felt that white lives/tragedies were more important than brown lives. Thats just how I felt and your feelings dont lie to you.

Again, its 100% FINE that the main character/family are white but he did NOT handle the background characters well at ALL and I think thats why some people are claiming that it is racist.

reply

This is a really, really scary movie... so many people dying at the same time and in such a horrible way... this movie was graphic (little boy at the beginning underwater behind thrown around... I know I will have nightmares for a week now.) I don't know what racism you're referring to yet... I do have to admit that I have yet to see a story about a non-white family surviving this disaster, but I still appreciate these disaster movies about something that really happened no matter what the race of the person is.

(•_•)

can't outrun your own shadow

I AM DEE BEE -- 10 years !

reply

Thank you for your very rational points that you make here.

... and I'm glad you survived.

reply

JaneNg - I know this post is old, however, I just wanted to express that I am glad that you were able to survive this horrible tragedy. I agree with your sentiments; it would be a much better world if people would look beyond race, age, religion, politics, weight, etc. and just focus on helping each other.

reply

Obama is not a black man, he is of mixed race.

Eat some makeup because you are really ugly on the inside - Olivia Blois Sharpe

reply

Well said Jane! Thank you.

You see Uncle Charlie...that's how I really feel about you.

reply

FACT: There was no racism depicted in this movie. Prove me wrong.

reply