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Frank Sidebottom must be rolling in his grave.


I dont get it...is this a film about my local superstar frank sidebottom AKA chris sievey.
Its his head, its what he made famous and put my village timperley on the map..
Hes a music genius and a funny as *beep* dude, god rest his soul..

but this film i just dont get..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Sievey

im going to go to the chippy and look at franks statue...

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Chris Sievey himself didn't want a biopic made about him. So no, despite the head and the first name, it's not about him.

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This movie has practically nothing to do with the character Frank Sidebottom. Our protagonist in this film was simply inspired by him just like Shailene Woodley's character in Fault of our Stars was inspired a real person but not based on a true story.

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Consider me one of those. Never heard of Frank Sidebottom/Chris Sievey, but thanks to finding this amazing little gem of a movie, I now have. So hey, whether it's loosely based on him or not, this movie IS helping keep his legend alive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KQhbWDeI8 - fantastic :)

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I put that clip of Frank up on YouTube. Hopefully it will introduce a whole new generation of fans to Frank. However, I love 'Frank' (the movie). It's a damning indictment of mediocrity, and a triumphant 'yes' to all the outsiders who exist without ever wanting to be part of 'showbiz' - from Barrett to Beefheart. All the performances are outstanding, the direction flawless, the soundtrack exciting and Ronson and Straughan's script hits all the right notes about the pretence of phonies such as the character of 'Jon', and the real deals such as Seivey. Pitchfork readers should take note... some things you just can't fake, even if you do wear a papier mache head.

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So hey, whether it's loosely based on him or not, this movie IS helping keep his legend alive. 


This sentence makes literally no sense. If it's not based on him then how can it keep his legend alive?

That's like saying let's make a movie about Richard Pryor but change the main character so that he's a white ice cream salesman from Berlin.

It'll keep his legend alive.

wtf.

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He means that people who liked the film, will eventually discover that it's inspired by the real Frank, and will then, learn about him. (Like I did)

wtf is wrong with your brain?

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I understood the sentence I'm saying it makes no logical sense. You undermine your own condescension when you miss the point.

Most people I've spoken to didn't even realise the story was a complete departure from the person. Worse still when I've shown them the real Frank they sit there confused.

This is not like complaining about Braveheart for being so historically inaccurate..... this is like making William Wallace a fishmonger from Paris.

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That's like saying let's make a movie about Richard Pryor but change the main character so that he's a white ice cream salesman from Berlin who wears a Richard Pryor mask.


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I'm trying to imagine a conventional Hollywood biopic - maybe along the lines of 'Man on the Moon' - about Chris Sievey which features long sequences about the off-screen drama during the making of 'Frank Sidebottom's Fantastic Shed Show'.

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Sorry, but Man on the Moon was a great song, and a horrible movie. Kaufman was so much more than that and they got a lot of stuff wrong. Don't ask me how I know, I just do.

The movie Frank has introduced me to Chris Sievey, and I'm grateful for it. :)

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So, how do you know?

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He doesn't know squat. He imagines a lot of things he thinks are factual but it's all in his head.

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I loved Frank. I spoke to him once - I was a policeman on duty on the sidelines of his beloved "Alty" (Altrincham FC) and he was doing a sort of lap of honour before a cup tie against a biggish team (hence why I was there - I seem to remember they got a draw). Anyway, he said "Alright boss!" in that wonderful nasal twang and waved to me. I said "Hello Frank" and on he carried. I also saw him performing at an all day festival in Manchester's G-Mex around 1986 - New Order, The Fall and The Smiths among others also appeared. The infamous Bill Grundy, of Sex Pistols notoriety, made some drunken announcements then staggered through the audience, being abused by everyone.

I next saw Frank three months before he died, supporting John Cooper Clarke at Stockport's beautiful Plaza cinema. There was no suggestion he was ill.

Anyway, I was excited when I heard about Frank, the movie. I queried why the face (on the head) looked slightly different and found out that it was only loosely inspired by Frank. I still enjoyed the movie, and felt it paid homage to the freaky, unique spirit of Frank without being the slightest bit "about" him.

Rest in peace Frank - there will never be another like you.

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I just looked them up on youtube. He is not a musical genius. This is crap. The music in the movie was way more interesting.

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You don't belong here. Go listen to Coldplay.

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Oh insulting someone who says some obscure loser made crap music, by using a well known successful band that everyone has heard of. Way to not make a point 

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Oh insulting someone who says some obscure loser made crap music, by using a well known successful band that everyone has heard of. Way to not make a point


The message in this film went right over your empty head, I see.

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I would rather listen to every song in this film again, rather than hear anything by Coldplay.

And I didn't like any of the songs in this film.

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The real Frank was mainly a comedian. He did comedy music "bits" sometimes, mainly stand up comedy and acting raucous on live TV. He is not really known for being in a serious band or coming up with great music but more for his comedy that did include music. Like the bit where the movie Frank plays a more likeable type of song, I can imagine him playing that style in an Andy Kaufman type way.

The films Frank was based around a few different people from decades ago in a maybe all fictional type story. Some of the people the movies Frank are based on may have been in bands.

Some of the things in the film may have happened. Some may not, who knows.

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From your own link:

"The 2014 film Frank was largely inspired by the Frank Sidebottom character, telling the story of a young wannabe musician who joins a pop group led by the enigmatic Frank (Michael Fassbender). The film was written by Jon Ronson and Peter Straughan, and was based on Ronson's experiences playing in Sievey's Oh Blimey Big Band. Although drawing from Ronson's memoir, the story is set in contemporary Ireland and America, and the Frank character combines elements of Sievey with Daniel Johnston and Captain Beefheart."

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I have to be honest with you all I am disappointed that this is not an original idea. I get that It is not a biopic and inspiration must be drawn from somewhere but by no fault other than my own ignorance I feel disappointed.

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As a 'Yank' I had no idea who 'Frank Sidebottom' was until I 'Youtubed' him after seeing this film. Glad I did! I especially enjoyed his 'Fantastic Shed Show.' Put me to mind of 'Pee Wee's Playhouse'; if Pee Wee Herman wore soccer jerseys and sang Joy Division covers.

http://youtu.be/FmGTVHBiHEo

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