Who sent the severed arm with the money?

I'd imagine it's some screwed up threat. They didn't know if the two guys were in on the robbery, but the arm and the money would make sure they wouldn't think about doing it again.

I'm pretty sure it was Marv. It was Marv who actually had the money from the first robbery all along, so it really couldn't have been anyone else.

Near the end of the movie the Chechen mini boss (who remember is the son of the real big boss) says something like he knew Marv was a traitor but let him off once or something.. . Wikipedia summary also confirms this...seems not many ppl picked up on it. oR I am wrong.

"Chovka informs Bob he was aware of Marv’s deceit and negotiated a deal with him that he would buy him a ticket to a safe place."

The Chechen leader explained in the end that he made a deal with Marv after the robbery, to stop stealing his money in exchange for him going away and leaving the bar to Bob. Apparently he was willing to let the 5 thou robbery slide, as long as he got lost. Yet Marv in his supreme wisdom convinced that idiot to steal the money for him. He would then kill him as well and get away with all the money. Instead he went to the ground.

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I think it was the Chechens too. They got the stopped watch clue and found the guy and chopped him up, but they weren't sure if Marv was in it or not, so they dumped it to warn Marv not to do it again if it were him, and basically let that one slide. Marv however decided to get Eric Deeds to steal the money instead, and that was the last straw for him.

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No. The Chechens had the first brother with the broken watch in the van, with a stake driven through the ankle. Marv didn't kill him. The Chechens did, severed the arm with the broken watch, and put the money in.

Bob knew what the Chechens wanted, which was for the blood to be washed off the money and the money returned. Bob told Marv what to do, Marv reluctantly washed the blood off the money (with rubber gloves, and like sweeping, cleaning up the bar, or simply getting one of the Chechens a Stella, Marv wasn't a hands-on guy). Bob returns it, saying "it's in a Ziploc, it's still a little wet...you spread it out and it will dry."

Imagine what would have happened if they kept the money and didn't return it to the Chechens?

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By 'book', you do mean short story, right? Because I've just read the short story and it mentions nothing of the severed arm. The book takes out a huge portion of the story that we see in the film.
I personally think it was Marv that sent the arm, to make it look like he had nothing to do with the robbery.

5 grand.

You cant find a person simply from a searching for a watch that doesn't work... how would you do that?!

No, it was Marv covering his tracks. He couldn't afford the Chechen's finding the brother and making him talk under torture.

Also the other brother says, that his brother was last seen entering a car. He wouldn't enter the Chechen's car knowing that he had stolen from them. But he would enter Marvs car.

>>The first robbery and then the subsequent return of the money is to gain trust with the Chechen. Such that they would make Marv's bar as the drop bar(Not necessary for the Superbowl's drop, that is just lucky break).

Lightning doesn't strike in the same place twice. It was just to entice the Chechens to make the drop bar. Marv didn't do anything. Bob makes it clear that it's the Chechens who did it and want them to return the money. If it wasn't, the Chechens wouldn't have known what the fvck Bob was handing them in the yellow packet and why he had to wash and clean the notes.

What you said makes sense. I was thinking Marv had killed the first brother when he was told that he had the money, and also to protect himself.
But at the same time, it also makes sense that it was the Chechens that did it. I hate not knowing.


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He was hammering the mobile phone.

Marv calls Eric's phone not knowing he is dead and so Bob destroys it. Then he starts to empty the freezer to hide Eric's body. Later when the Chechens come you can notice them pulling out Eric's body from the freezer in the room behind the boss when he is talking to Bob.

Right!!
if they don't get it now. never will.


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agreed. its the chechens. they also inadvertently tested their loyalty seeing how they returned the money and not keep it for themselves. in fact it was bob not marv that handed them the money although marv was the senior guy. makes them know who to trust and who not to. thats why they say in the end, u are not alone, u got friends.

That's right.
At first a thought it was Chechens, but after Bob wrapping the hand and Marv said it's like he had done it thousand times. I thought there is something about Bob, it can be Bob doing. And after Bob kill the brother I change my mind again, it was Marv!.
But. At the end, when Chovka mention to Bob about Marv wanted to retiring and leave the bar to Bob, he said to Marv something like:
"Of course its your bar, but it's not your money. So why you always trying in to take my money?" So I made him a deal. "You and your druggy friends leave my money alone, and I'll pay you a ticket to a nice, quite place."
And the next scene is Marv getting killed just a block and a half from the bar. How they know if Marv is near the bar?
So I assume the Chechens know what Marv scheming all along.
If you think, after your bar getting robbed you should not make a next drop in that bar. But they did. I think the Chechens have been planning to test Marv and take him done if he resist to take their money.
Since the beginning the Chechens seem have more faith in Bob than Marv. You can see how they threat them when they come while Bob shoveling the snow. I just felt that way when watching it.
This Chovka guy is creepy too. I will not surprised if he know what Bob doing to Richie Whelan. And he also make Bob say "I'm alone, sometimes it's good to be alone". He said "No way my man, you have friends." So he regard Bob as a "friend".

This^^ I honestly can't believe there is even a debate over this. lol It was clearly the Chechens.



"If it doesn't make sense, it's not true." -- Judge Judy

Agree.

Marv didn't have the stomach to do something as brutal as chop a guy's arm off. Hints all over the place. Washed the bloody money wearing gloves. Commented how casually Bob wrapped up the arm. He killed the one brother by backing over him with a car. More of a coward desperation move than gangster. Couldn't pull the plug on his brain dead father even though the care was making him bankrupt. Marv saw the guy coming to shoot him and just sat there. Didn't even try and defend himself. Just winced. Bob killed Richie for Marv.

Chechens found the guy with the watch. Tortured him but he didn't give up his brother. Didn't give up Marv because he didn't know Marv planned the job. The Chechens suspected Marv so put the arm and money in a bag to test his reaction.

I didn't read the story the movie was based on but I didn't feel the movie was that complicated. The only twist is Bob wasn't really the simpleton he first appears to people. In reality his quiet slow moving ways hide the fact Bob knows exactly what is going on and is even two steps ahead of everyone else. Nor is he weak and meek but a stone cold killer if provoked beyond a certain point.