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Bob isn't a sociopath, you simple-minded idiots.

posted 10 years ago by giygas-12533
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Bob is not a psychopath, nor a sociopath. He killed that actual sociopath Eric Deeds because he deserved to die. Before killing him, he offered him a way out so he wouldn't have to.

Bob is a good person. Eric Deeds was a bad one.

Bob displays:
affection for Nadia; a desire to protect her
affection for the dog; a desire to protect it
affection for his cousin, Marv, even though he knows he isn't necessarily a great person (displaying forgiveness as well as loyalty to family)
Loneliness and a desire to be free of it
Guilt over the first life he took. This is important, because he honestly explains to Eric that Richie Wheelin (sp?) didn't deserve to die. He was involved in a mafia lifestyle at that time and was younger. He realizes now in his older age and at this different time in his life that it was wrong. He doesn't engage in communion at church, a sign of his guilt (he doesn't feel he deserves God's blessing.)

Many of you seem confused as to what a sociopath actually is. A genuine sociopath is someone who does not feel any emotions. I have personally known a real sociopath and can attest to this from experience in addition to knowledge regarding psychology. Sociopaths feel no real emotions and so everything they project is fake- they use normal people's emotions against them to manipulate them. They have what is known as "the gift of the gab", meaning they can spin a beautiful web of words to make people think whatever they want them too. They may act like a friend to someone's face and then actively attempt to sabotage them behind their backs. They will say and do absolutely anything to get what they want, and at the end of the day they only truly care about themselves. A murderer is not automatically a sociopath simply because he is willing to take another person's life. I'm sorry to the PC do-gooder idiots out there who's bubble this might burst, but it's not. I guess that's why none of you seem to get it- you're all so caught up in that politically correct nonsense that you do not see the truth.
Bob feels and displays a wide range of emotions in the film. He knows the first time he killed it was not morally right, and has felt immense guilt for years because of it.. The second time he kills it is justified, and the guy completely deserved it. I'm sorry to anyone that offends, but it was.
Having been personally victimized in the past by an actual sociopath, I can say with 100% certainty that Bob is not one.
Also, just for your consideration, the Law and actual morality are very rarely one and the same thing, and only an idiot thinks otherwise.

[–] PattyGJones 9 years ago

This is a very belated agreement with your post. It's unfortunate that you turned some people off by repeatedly calling them idiots, but everything you said about Bob is right on the money. Tom Hardy has given us the sweetest, saddest anti-hero imaginable, who also happens to have killed two people. But the killer is not who he is. He's Rocco's daddy and Nadia's savior, and finding a way out of all those years of pain is the best ending anyone could have given us.

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[–] flora_lo 9 years ago

That's what I think too.

[–] nammage 9 years ago

Sociopaths do feel emotions. Mainly anger and agitation in limitations of their mindset and/or surrounding(s). Psychopaths mimic emotions not sociopaths. Sociopaths are disorganised, usually unintelligent, and live mainly recluse lives. They do not tend to have too many (if any) social attachments. People tend to be made into Sociopaths (trauma in their lives as a child, etc.,), psychopaths tend to blend in to manipulate their surroundings to their liking.

A lot of people tend use both interchangeably with each other.

-Nam

I am on the road less traveled...

[–] iainclark84-668-906800 9 years ago

I watched this movie a few weeks ago and it one of the best films I have seen in the last 5 years

Bob is not a Sociopath or a Psychopath he clearly has a conscience and is clearly suffering inside by his going to church but never taking communion. The killing of the first Kid "Glory Days" has clearly affected him.

You see bob 8 years later and lets be honest he isn't the smartest guy in the world but his heart is in the right place no doubt its his Cousin Marv who is the Sociopath he used Bob as a impressionable kid for the first Murder.

When It comes to the second murder he gave Eric every chance to take the money and leave him alone but the is only so far someone can be pushed he knows if he gives the money in the safe to him he is dead and he also knows that eric would not leave him and Natalia alone anyway.

He is scared of going to hell and knows that he has sinned badly no Sociopath cares about this.

It Kind of reminds me of a quote from Dostoyevsky's novel Crime and Punishment where he also murders but is not a sociopath and has shown signs of a good heart when thinking about his awful crime he is tourtured

“Pain and suffering are always inevitable for a large intelligence and a deep heart. The really great men must, I think, have great sadness on earth.” .

[–] KutWrite (1334) 8 years ago

Gleaning valid analysis from name-calling, yes, some very good points, beginning with the OP.

I thought the "colostomy bag" referred to Marv's dad. Remember, he's in some kind of home and Marv and Patty are considering moving him "somewhere else" or even pulling his plugs. He probably has been wasting away for some time.

All the characters in this plucked one or another of my strings.

Very literate script, too. I'm sure I'll watch this movie again.