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S.mouse, Jonah

posted 14 years ago by Karly89
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I love Chris lilley and I love the characters of nathan and daniel, and gran is pretty funny, but I just dont like smouse. I think it would be better if he just brought back Jonah instead, I am wondering if its the fact that this is being made with both abc and HBO and thats why he chose to do smouse as its more relateable to Americans, I just dont think Americans would get Jonah, or the whole 'fob' thing. But I personally think it would be better if Jonah was in place of smouse, I am thinking somewhere along the line he has to put Jonah in there somewhere even if its for a minute or two.
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[–] Kram99 14 years ago

He is that bad it's almost embarrassing. I've had to even fast forward sometimes when he comes on..

[–] C-Awesome 14 years ago

yeah i agree, smouse is no where near johnas status. here in america tho Johnas character was well recieved when HBO showed SHH. he ended up being the favorite characater out of all my friends who would watch that show with me. the FOB thing is funny as hell btw.

[–] veil182 13 years ago

I agree Jonah is funnier but how would he fit into the show? In what way could he "replace" smouse?

listen to the receiving end of sirens.

[–] bg91283 14 years ago

Really?

I think s.mouse is a great character! Sure, he's not likeable, but that's because he's supposed to be a dick.
Chris Lilly does a great job of playing a black guy by the way. More Jonah would have been just more of the same. I'm glad Chris went with some new characters, which takes the whole concept in new directions.

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[–] Appletonian 14 years ago

In my opinion, Smouse is the most entertaining character on the show.

[–] nece8204 13 years ago

I think this show is hilarious but I am not a fan of the S. Mouse character and if you think that in playing this character Chris Lilly does a "good job of playing a black guy" then I'm even more for getting rid of the character.

[–] Hal-83 14 years ago

I agree. S.mouse is out of datea late 1990s/early 00s relic. He has trouble with making the African American characters speak naturally. It really became awkward and apparent with the dialogue the actor playing father has to deliver. There is no way an upper middle class, wealthy American talks like that, black or not.

It would have been more interesting (and more edgy, really) had he played an Australian rapper.

Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents and everyone is writing a book - Cicero

[–] cogs 14 years ago

Hi Hal,

I think this show is the pits. I think each of the characters with the exception of Daniel and Nathan are thinly constructed caricatures with nary a degree of authenticity.

"But tonight we should have fun, not dwell on Scott Baio."

[–] shayneferry 14 years ago

Mmmmmmm Smouse is not very funny, I miss Jonah he is soooo hilarious, and I miss Ja'mie although obviously she wouldn't fit in Angry Boys lol.

[–] violachild2002 14 years ago

I think the point of Smouse and Jen for that matter, is that they are trainwrecks waiting to happen. I dislike them, but I can't turn away. Watch for developments. I do love Nathan and Daniel, Gran and Blake. I hope Jonah will come back one day. Remember, he's exiled in Tonga.

[–] Hal-83 14 years ago

Nice to see your name on my computer screen, old friend. Still working on TBYG? Did you get to go to the Logies?

Nathan and Daniel are spot on, as is their milieu: mainies, "Black Dan", Southern Cross tattoos (so glad that nasty element of jingoism is being mocked), the stepdad. I haven't stuck with it past episode 2. I was considering looking at the Tiger Mum bits, as Lilley did quite a good job with the Chinese amateur dramatic scientsit in WCBH.

He seems to be is going for Gervais/Baron Cohen style "cringe", but isn't pulling it off. John Safran tried to create this kind of discomfort in "Race Relations" and failed; similar to AB, RR was half filled with dud segments and was a far less coherent work than his previous series.

Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents and everyone is writing a book - Cicero

[–] Tommy_Darko 14 years ago

S.Mouse is hilarious. You see, the reason why most of you find him ridiculous is because the majority of American Hip Hop 'artists' are just that, ridiculous, their 'music' is terrible and they're the most arrogant, self-righteous morons on the planet and his portrayal of them is spot on, to be honest.

Ya'll need to go slap yo elbows, mofos!

[–] shellmine 14 years ago

"He seems to be is going for Gervais/Baron Cohen style "cringe", but isn't pulling it off."

That's what he did in Summer Heights High, but not what he's doing now. His humour has obviously evolved from that, which you'd notice if you watched past the first two eps. There a fewer cringe-worthy moments, like you'd see with Gervais, and more honest, real moments of humour and accurate parody. The characters are not as abhorrent, nor are the minor characters connection with Lilley's characters quite as surreal. I can see why one may have thought it incoherent if they only watched the first two, since the series has moved on from character introductions by now and is weaving a thicker, deeper plot with every episode.

In SHH and Australian of the Year, they all had a unifying plot which connected them (the high school, the awards), now they are scattered all over the world and Lilley is masterfully unifying them all with his overriding theme: angry boys, and susbsequent themes such as the stepfather effect and the effect of male (father) and female (mother) influences, homosexuality and sexual discovery, parent/peer pressure and the pressure to be masculine, depression, alienation and of course, anger and violence.

I'm just so impressed with it. I will admit that his other shows were funnier in ways, but only because in this he's reaching out to us with much deeper issues and a more involved plot. But then, I still laugh out loud about twenty times an episode.

I feel like I said plot fifty million times. Sorry about that.

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[–] DJConz 14 years ago

Everytime I think I don't like S.Mouse or Tim's mom (Jen?) I just stop and think how god damn talented this guy is and i cant hate on the characters. he's incredible

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[–] karinlynn36 13 years ago

I think that's the point of s.mouse. There's no reason for him to be acting like he's ghetto...like most american rappers.

[–] His_Dudeness74 14 years ago

lyrics the same as everyone else's ??

S.Mouse! is educatin' his fans with his raps - witness :

One.
Divided by two
Equals
Three.
Divided by four
Equals
Five.
Divided by six
Equals
My Intellectality.

that rap was one of the funniest moments in the show; I've lost count of the amount of rappers who think they are schoolin' their fans but lack the intellectual capacity to impart anything other than crap.

Phone's ringin' Dude ...

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[–] nothingwillstopit 14 years ago

Don't forget the serious wordplay reaching out warning the kids about abusers;

"He's checkin' you out, he's likin ya style, he's muthafvckin paedophile!"

Thats some profound sh!t right there.

What if everyone started telling the truth?

[–] electricshysta 14 years ago

I found the S.Mouse segments more funny in terms of the other characters...the dad was awesome...he himself wasn't that funny, but pretty easy to laugh AT.
The surfy guy was the one I found least funny - though I had no problem with that at all.

[–] Gib11 14 years ago

Better than squased n***a? No way. Thats the best and funniest song I've heard since "Everyone Has Aids"

Edit: To the OP, you are wrong, S.mouse! is one of the funniest characters on the show.

[–] shellmine 14 years ago

I said I really really really really really really really really really wanna three-legged dawg.

Anyone else on here watch 'Trailer Park Boys'? S.mouse is very similar to J-roc, who's also awesomely hilarious :D

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[–] morrise18 13 years ago

You all are crazy. S.Mouse is hilarious. Who cares about his authenticity? This show is not grounded in reality at all...

[–] El_Durango 13 years ago

your crazy, SMouse is my favorite character so far.... funny *beep* mocking hip hop artists.

[–] russellsolomon 13 years ago

Americans would relate more to an African-American rapper. Jonah is a Tongan juvenile delinquent and would appeal more to an Australian audience familiar with the stereotypes of Polynesian minorities of Australia/NZ such as Tongans or Maoris. Most Americans wouldn't even know what a "Tongan" is!

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