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'Atheistic Mexican Government?'

posted 13 years ago by JMDude
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The synopsis for this movie at my theater was pretty vague about what exactly this movie was about, but one of the vague things it mentioned was how the movie was about some rebellion against "anti-clerical laws". The IMDB synopsis was a bit less blunt, mentioning the term, "atheistic Mexican government."

I have to ask, was there ever any truth to this, or did I miss the part in history where Mexico took secularism to a despotic extreme?

All things considered, I almost want to see this movie just to see if it's as much of a religious jerk-off as it sounds.

If this movie is trying to paint like atheists want to do something ridiculous like outlaw the practice of religion, then I call *beep* right now. Atheists as a collective want religion to have no place in government, because it creates a preferential treatment to the practicers of a specific religion. We also think the world would be FAR better off without religion at all. But by no means would we EVER desire to implement some kind of thought-crime that prevents religious practices within the law, or even the right of parents to raise their children as they choose. Though I personally think it's reprehensible to ruin and indoctrinate a child by teaching them myths are true, my tool with which to stop such things from happening is education, not force. We're for the extension of personal freedoms, which includes the right to believe what you will.

[–] travelintom 11 years ago

To this very day, the Catholic Church is the third biggest land owner in the world (about 177 million acres). The Church was an enormous landowner in Mexico and supported the tiny percentage of haciendados and foreigners that shared the rest of virtually all the land and that controlled the dictatorial governments.

The Church resisted any reform effort and supported every repressive government from the Spanish monarchy, through the French intervention, the Porfiriato, and the Cristero counter-revolution. It continues to support the conservative Partido Accion Nacional (PAN).

Secular, in the eyes of the Church, meant atheist. Thank God for the recent teachings of Pope Francis. Wouldn't you know those insights would come from an American pope with knowledge of the history of abuses by the Church from Mexico to Argentina? ¡ Viva Zapata !

[–] symphony5-1 11 years ago

Oh thank you for setting the record straight. Unfortunately this little truism is not mentioned at all in the film, thus making For Greater Glory a little too one-sided for my taste. I only wish President Calles (played by Ruben Blades) had read your post as justification for closing all the churches. Then the Cristiada would not have been so black and white.

[–] [email protected] (2042) a year ago

The Church also is the biggest charitable organization in the world. The Church founded hospitals, universities, orphanages, charities, and the concept behind 'innocent until proven guilty.' Why don't you research on the Spanish Inquisition?

You have lot to thank the Church for, without the Church, you guys are heading to the dark ages or a 2nd middle east.

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[–] [email protected] (2042) a year ago

Let's pretend like the NAZIs, the USSR, the CCP, Cuba and this history never happened because atheists are such a peaceful group of people.