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Kathleen the therapist


I cannot take her seriously. She is obese with greasy hair and dressed like a slob. This woman is not professional whatsoever. She obviously has never been able to help Catelynn. They should see someone else.

If the person you seek help from cannot help themself, do not trust them. The therapist is dirty and can't control her eating. That person is not fit to give good advice.

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i get that Cate would click more with someone that looked more like herself... but i dont think this therapist is skilled and a skilled therapist that could actually help her is going to look professional. Also, maybe if she went to a therapist who took care of herself and dressed nice, it MIGHT rub off on Cate? also, Cate needs to very over that if it's an issue where she's easily intimidated. that's why she doesn't look for a job or do anything.... she doesn't want to show up and be intimidated by people who care about their appearance.

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I think Cate likes this therapist because she never makes Cate actually do anything. She sits there and listens but I don't think I've ever seen her give her any concrete advice, tools, or "homework" to do. She also never holds her accountable. Even Cate herself will say she goes a long time without going to her therapist and then one day Tyler will call her out on it and she'll finally make an appointment and the only thing the therapist says is "So what's been going on?" And it's back to the same, tired story of Catelynn's depression and anxiety that hasn't changed. I think Cate is terrified of having someone actually challenge her or hold her accountable. It's much easier and safer to stay in your hole, but you shouldn't live that way forever.

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You people are so judgemental. You've obviously never worked in the mental health field, where people truly do not make a lot of money. Not even that, but most people in the mental health field have mental health issues themselves. Get over yourselves.

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LOL, what?!?! You just accused most mental health professionals of having mental illnesses themselves, but posters here are judgmental and need to "get over" themselves?

Even if you are meaning to defend mental health workers, claiming a subpar job is understandable because of their own mental health problems or lack of money, then you are not clinically sane yourself. I'm 100% sure you are not in the profession either.

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Her doing a subpar job was not what was being defended. I'm 100% sure that I am in the field, and 100% sure that you don't know what you're talking about. What was being defended was the personal attacks that people were making on the woman. She's fat, and therefore has no self control and therefore is bad at her job, WHAT?! One thing has nothing to do with another. Also, if "not having your life together and being fat" is the reason she shouldn't be respected, most people in the mental health field are coming from a place of understanding and compassion because they too have mental illnesses themselves.

Sorry, I didn't think I'd have to give you a step by step guide to the thought process.

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If most therapists have mental illness, that is a great reason to not seek therapy. Taking advice from a sick person and paying them for it?!?

Her being a dirty slob (greasy hair, oily face, obese, dressed poorly, etc) are VERY much in line with her being unfit to be a health care professional. She can't even take care of herself to be professional And on TV. Wow. That is very obvious. Therapists that are professional are on time, have excellent hygiene, put their phone away, and have professional clothing on ( not jeans, but a nice blouse and dress pants.) Kathleen is not a good influence on Cate and she is not even mirroring her. She is nodding, smiling and smirking. I'd love to know where this woman went to school for her degree.

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If most therapists have mental illness, that is a great reason to not seek therapy. Taking advice from a sick person and paying them for it?!?

So true. There is no evidence mental illness is rampant in the profession anyway, but let's speak on the ones who suffer from mental illness themselves... How can someone proclaim that as a defense? "Aw, therapists tend to be sick; don't expect too much from them! That's okay! Oh, and they don't get paid much. Also don't expect too much from them."

And this kind of rhetoric flies for someone who claims they are in the mental healt field? My God.

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Specifically, her lack of control eating is an issue. It's called emotional eating and they have a program overeaters anonymous to address it.

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Kathleen seems like more of a friend to Catelynn than a therapist.

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Well, I'm glad to learn that you are perfect because if you weren't I'm sure nobody would ever be able to rely on you for any kind of advice.

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Are you talking about Kathleen or Catelynn?



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Her doing a subpar job was not what was being defended. I'm 100% sure that I am in the field, and 100% sure that you don't know what you're talking about. What was being defended was the personal attacks that people were making on the woman. She's fat, and therefore has no self control and therefore is bad at her job, WHAT?! One thing has nothing to do with another. Also, if "not having your life together and being fat" is the reason she shouldn't be respected, most people in the mental health field are coming from a place of understanding and compassion because they too have mental illnesses themselves.


If your issue is with people insulting her weight or how she puts herself together, fine, but that was not in your post! You wrote about mental health professionals having mental illness. What in God's name is that about? Even if that were true, that's not a pass to do a subpar job. Nor is talking about salary. It doesn't take a high salary to do a job that meets the standards of your profession, and if you really work in mental health, you know what those standards are. Your post was meant to cut slack to subpar mental health profressionals by using ridiculous logic and falsehoods.

Are you really setting the bar so low, excuses like that fly for one of the most important areas in aiding individuals in need? Teachers also don't get paid well. Would that be an excuse to do a poor job in education? Of course not! If you are talking about salary in response to dress or hair, well then, it doesn't take much money to look clean and put together.

Bottom line, your first post here was unclear, unfocused, immature, and you sound no more fit to work in mental health care than an acrobat with chronic vertigo. I still don't think you actually do. Not buying it. Otherwise, Heaven help your clients based on your scattered logic and low standards for the profession.

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And please don't think I mean to say that "she's fat and doesn't have her life together" because she's mentally ill. What I mean to say is what other people seem to be reading as not having her life together reads very easily to me as a mental illness.

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If you really think Kathleen has mental illness, you should be saying she's not fit to counsel rather than telling posters who criticize her to "get over" themselves. There is a real concern with her handling of Catelynn's care, and her own problems should never be an acceptable excuse for doing a substandard job.

As a psychology and premed major, I'm familiar with the anecdote that mental health professionals "often are mentally ill themselves" It's like the anecdote that "those who can do; those who can't, teach." Such anecdotes do nothing but malign professionals. There is no real basis for the claim that mental illness is rampant in mental health professions anyway, and that is exactly what you asserted when saying "most" have mental illness.

It's ridiculous. Even playing devil's advocate and assuming it's a legitimate problem, what is most alarming is your attitude that it's just fine and dandy. It's not. It's inexcusable. If a mental health worker's job is impaired by mental illness, they need to get out of the business.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the therapist Kathleen there to babysit Nova when Catelynn went off for treatment? Pretty sure it was her. What kind of therapists gets that involved with patients to show up for babysitting duties?

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No, she did not babysit. Tyler had her come over for the session because he couldn't find a babysitter.

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Thanks Stirch, for the correction.

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