What I want to know is were there more murders after Sofia was committed and if ol’ Carmine couldn’t help himself and did kill then how were those explained and why wasn’t she exonerated?
That crossed my mind, too, and raised some really interesting questions. It definitely makes you wonder how Sofia’s entire family could be in on the truth and just go along with it. Carmine's ability to control everything, including Arkham, makes it seem plausible that he could cover up any additional murders, but it also stretches believability that no one else would suspect anything, especially if more deaths occurred after Sofia was locked up.
Also, was Sofia pegged for all of Carmine’s murders?? Because that would include her mom’s too, when she was just a little girl. And many of those other murders likely happened when she was young.
It’s details like these and the other things we both mentioned that strain credulity, but I’m willing to roll with it for the sake of the narrative.
Ultimately, I think this episode is about showing how far everyone has fallen. No one’s hands are clean, and it’s tragic to see how complicit everyone is in this web of corruption. As you said, it’s pretty sad stuff. The show leans heavily into the dark atmosphere of Gotham, but sometimes it makes you question the plausibility of the plot.
What do you think of the show overall so far?
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Jeepster (1145)
a month ago
Oh I think it’s freaking great! The thing I love about it is no one here is a hero or should be thought of that way and no one (sane that is) should be pulling for ANYONE in this. Oz as I’ve said is one HUGE turd, and Sofia is in the drug dealing business, plus she killed an innocent kid (Victor’s friend) in the pilot so she’s a POS too. Much like James Cagney’s “They Made Me a Criminal” she may have been guilty of only having the knowledge that her family was in crime and murder when she was a young woman but her time in Arkam HAS truly unhinged her. Ironically she can’t deny that she IS now somewhat of what they accused her falsely of when she was sentenced to Arkam.
I’m a HUGE fan of Mark Strong but something to me was just wrong with him wearing the sun glasses all the time. Maybe that was supposed to be a tip off that he was deranged, I don’t know. Maybe if he got paid more $$$ for that episode he would’ve taken them off, again I don’t know. His time and presence must have cost enough to have him star in it. “Hey I’m being embarrassed in this sh!t. I don’t want anyone to know it’s me. What? $60,000 more for this? Sure! I’ll take them off.”
Never mind the fact that you have to have a HUGE suspension of disbelief in order to sit down and watch any of this. Oswald’s very existence is precarious at best, I mean the man is living on the very edge of the pit of hell and walking a tightrope across its very mouth. He goes to Arkam to meet Maranzano who knows what a turd Oz is and lets him know that he killed Alberto Falcone. Salvatore gets set up unknowingly where Oz gives him Carmine’s ring which I think was his all along? He then gets fingered for Alberto’s murder when people start to talk, Oz, POS that he is goes and visits him again, where Sal, now wise to what he had done by suckering him by giving him the ring, simply threatens him that “Ok, I’ll drop YOUR name to them”. That’s all it’s going to take and this IS what eventually happens anyway.
Since such a thing can be revealed at any time, as Sal’s wife eventually does, you’d have to consider Oswald a freaking madman to have done such a thing and still sleep at nights.
But having her do that, won’t that torpedo his deal with Salvatore? There’s such a thing as having balls and another thing to be flat out crazy, go for broke, devil may care. You can’t find anyone who’d gone and done what he had but ok, after all this is entertainment.
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