Man-Hating Mess? *SPOILERS*

That's exactly what the Brotherhood stands for in my opinion. Think on it: this is an organisation that only initiates powerful men who think exactly like them (like Ruthvan) since presumably the dawn of time. They are stuck, the old order, and perpetuate those feelings. This is what the traditional vampire representational is about. The humanist characters in this: Clara, Elenor and .... the nice vampire — these are the characters that are made at the turn of the century, on the precipice of change from that old order. Essentially this movie follows that same character relationships as Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles: Ella is to Clara and nice vampire is to brotherhood as Louis is to Lestat is to the Millennials/Old Ones. It not manhating — it is a critique of the old ways of doing things and of finding value in new perspectives.

Well, considering the protagonist of the movie leaves her mother to be with a man, I would say your interpretation of this film is incorrect. Not to mention baseless since by your own admission you have not seen it.

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It certainly isn't an "all men are scum" movie.

I actually liked the contrast between feminism and patriarchy and how an ancient league of vampires are the ultimate conservatives, afraid to accept new ideas or ways of life. It makes sense, these men are thousands of years old. When they grew up and had formative experiences, women were not considered equal.

At the same time, it came off the rails with regard to several plot points. Clara isn't really a "defender of the weak" at all, yet that's the note on which the movie concludes. That whole subplot fell flat, but the movie itself was still good.

It addresses institutionalized misogyny, yes, but Ella's subplot still depends on men. Without her romantic subplot, she couldn't get her story out, thus exposing them. A man betrayed Ella and passed her story onto another man who then passed it onto the school counselor (a woman). A case could be made, however, that Frank was only acting out of concern for Ella when he gave up her story she wrote for the class. That being said, her entire subplot still depends on men. It also began with a man raping her and giving her syphilis. (Not sure how spoiler-y all of that was, but putting it under a cut just in case) Men betraying and exploiting her, but men none the less.

Also, the movie ends with both women going off in separate directions to be with men, romance implied. Hardly a man hating note. As another poster noted, a man saves the day in the 3rd act. With these two things in mind, male viewers are reminded that if they persevere and play the white knight, they will be rewarded with romantic female company.

And as another poster noted, Clara was forced into sex work by a man. I'd say that's pretty evil. Not sex work in and of itself, but being forced into it. That sort of thing exists today, as well, in all parts of the world.

My point, is that while the film addresses some very real things that happen to women (and can happen to men too, betrayal, rape, stds and being forced into sex work), men are still along for the ride at every turn and are rewarded by the narrative.

All of that being said, I realize that Clara/Ella's relationship was not working out and both were, at times, very unhappy. The film shows us that they could not continue on that way, which is why it ended the way it did.

It's interesting that you consider a film addressing institutionalized misogyny as man hating. Consider that most films are marketed towards men and made by men.

Where did you see man hate lol? Nothing of the sort.

Off topic: Horror movies for decades have had the ladies onscreen be ordinary women in extraordinary situations that usually always come out on top. With little to no combat skills. The dreaded Final Girl Cliche. This cliche alone is killing horror. Look at a plot or a DVD cover when it's horror. You can usually tell if it will be a Final Girl type movie before seeing it. If you know the telltale signs to look out for. And 8 out of 10 times (or more) you will be correct.

Man-hating my friend can be found all over the horror genre. It's been there for decades. Guys deserve a chance in horror movies. Action genre however is very male orientated. That needs to change as well. Both genres need to change!. Horror needs to give us more Reggie Bannister and Bruce Campbell types (but I hate Campbell for his ego alone haha). Action needs to give us more Ripley types.

On topic: Is this movie a man-hating movie?. It makes male vampires look like oppressors and the female vampires look like second class citizens in the vampire world within the movie. The female vampires are not quiet put upon victims though.

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I agree, because women never get raped, abused or seen as less than men. Ever. It is totally unrealistic to portray that, because it has never happened.

And whole groups of men who get together with the expresse purpose of doing/condoning that? Absolutely unthinkable.

Probably Jordan wrote that to please his girlfriend. Or she forced him.