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Carol

posted 8 years ago by Popcorn Kernel (2368)
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Did I miss it, or somehow forget it, but when did she switch from sulky "I want to be alone" Carol into warrior Carol again? She's just suddenly there marching with Ezekiel, but did they ever show what made her flip flop?

[–] exatera (3953) 8 years ago

It's was a progression of events that culminated in this change. First she sensed that something was off in her last encounter with Daryl, and she asked Morgan about what really happened with the Alexandrians. Then that boy from the Kingdom died on her table (courtesy of a Savior). Then Morgan finally told her what actually happened. By that point she was in an entirely different mindset.

[–] neverstandinalone (641) 8 years ago

👆👆👆 There ya go OP. Concise & True.

[–] flanaria (112) 8 years ago

Did you watch the episodes leading to the finale or did you just skip and enter the finale?

[–] exatera (3953) 8 years ago

Yeah, I agree that this was hard not to understand.

[–] neverstandinalone (641) 8 years ago

UNLESS the previous episodes were watched, as in OP didn't?..

[–] Popcorn Kernel (2368) 8 years ago

I watched the whole season. But if they ever showed the moment when Carol changed her mind and decided to go with the fighting option, I blanked it out. I just remember a bunch of repetitive scenes where people asked her to join them and she gave sad speeches about why she couldn't. But I can't remember a scene when she finally said 'Okay, I'm in".
Because I think I would have cheered if I had seen that.
Did they just skip over it, and rather than SHOW her deciding to join them, they only show the aftermath, with her already there? Because if they deliberately skipped that moment, I kind of feel robbed to not see that moment. We had to watch interminable repetitious scenes of her saying NO, so why do they skip the scene where she finally says YES?

[–] abiggerboat (55) 8 years ago

They didn't spoon-feed the audience with her change of heart. It became evident she was heading back into warrior mode when she finally heard the truth about Abe and Glenn. And, when she saw that boy die on her table.

[–] Popcorn Kernel (2368) 8 years ago

Well good then I did not miss anything or forget anything. I'm glad to know that much at least.
But I just think that after having to watch so many boring scenes of her constantly saying no to everyone, the same exact scene over and over, I would have liked to see the moment when she finally says yes. It would have been actually dramatic and interesting, when all the repeated NO scenes were not interesting, after the first one.
So I don't want it spoon fed, but after investing 13 hours of my life into a season, I do feel robbed that they chose to keep the most dramatic moments OFFscreen, and then instead show us a million undramatic repetitious moments.

[–] flanaria (112) 8 years ago

It was shown obvious that she was leaving the house and going into the kingdom, immediately helping in the garden. Clear scene.

[–] Popcorn Kernel (2368) 8 years ago

helping in a garden doesn't violate her "not gonna fight anymore" rule, so that wasn't really much of a change.

[–] flanaria (112) 8 years ago

coming back is coming back.

[–] abiggerboat (55) 8 years ago

Sometimes, it's more impactful to sense and experience something like Carol's return to glory via her actions, rather than having a definitive: "Hey guys, I'm BACK" moment. You could sense it by the look on her face when she learned the truth (about Glenn and Abe). You could see it in her walk....the way she left her quiet sanctuary of a house and marched boldly through the Kingdom's gates. You just knew, without a doubt. I really like how the writers (and the actress) conveyed this. She had enough dialogue, enough "key moments" with the people who understood her exile. Moments with Daryl.....with Morgan.....
Too much of that would have been overkill, even cliche. I appreciated the relatively fanfare-free return of Carol. It's how she wanted it. She didn't see herself as a warrior to be celebrated. She hates the role, and hates that it's necessary. She's very practical and focused, and that's it. Understated and under the radar. She has weaponized herself again....but she doesn't want to make a thing of it.

[–] tigerlily007 (15) 8 years ago

After Morgan told her the truth about Abe and Glenn, and after Benjamin died, she goes back to the Kingdom and approaches Ezeikiel (however you spell it...) in the garden. The dialogue in that scene is what marked (to me) her tipping point. she tells him she's staying and they need to fight. I remember having a clear feeling of 'Carol is back now' after that.

[–] lennonforever (2453) 8 years ago

😁