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The whole scene where the teen girl say that Barbie ruined her life


Can be Summed up with this one Meme. If an inanimate ruins your life than you got bigger problem than "THE PATRIARCHY". Seriously what a Preachy boring movie. Ill give to the promotion people at WB. They sure tricked people into thinking this could possibly be good.

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I think the problem is deeper than "the patriarchy," and has to do with the way human beings are wired. Appearance just matters a lot more for women, especially traditionally. Men could look like basketball players, football players, overweight baseball players, and still cheat on their hot girlfriends. You can run a business, enter politics or the arts, become a rich nerd, whatever, there are a lot of options to achieve social status. "The patriarchy" explanation says older men date younger women because "the media" somehow "normalizes" it; in reality, the media simply reflects (to some degree) biology: men have longer fertility windows than women. Al Pacino can have offspring in his 80s; females cannot.

Men, especially on these forums, where there's a pronounced incel streak, should be more empathetic to women instead of celebrating when DiCaprio dumps someone for turning 25.

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Yep. Prior to modern medicine, it was common for men to outlive women, who often died in childbirth. So men could have two or three mates in their lifetime.

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That's an interesting point. I've always assumed it was a wash because men were so much more likely to die in war or by homicide. Of course, we can zoom in on a more granular level: In terms of parental investment, poorer/lower-status parents tend to invest relatively more in girls than boys; parents with greater status/wealth prioritize male offspring. So maybe it is a wash on aggregate, but females of high status still died in childbirth while a select few privileged males enjoyed the best of all worlds. Males have been described as "nature's way of rolling the dice"; it's feast or famine. After all, two-thirds of our ancestors are female.

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You're right that plenty of men died young; war, mining or industrial accidents, and heart disease took out many.

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That is ridiculous, women everywhere are obsessed with look and weight, with or without barbie.

That is just shifting blames from themselves, then again that is what people do. I think that is why politicians since Hilter have been blaming everything on immigrants or foreigners, and that is what people want to hear, nothing is ever their fault, it is always because of someone else.

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I am surprised that Mattel let that scene stand.

Also, I'm surprised that Mattel was OK with them being represented having a 100% white male Board of Directors.

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Yes. Mattel was all like: "We are on the joke. We can laugh at ourselves".

But movie shitted so hard on them. While in real life their Board of Directors has like 5 women and 6 men or something. Its diverse. Yet movie portrayed them is monsters.

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Wasn't that scene making fun of those types of people?

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Maybe, but the movie is so all over tje place, it doesn't actually hold up under scrutiny. It's existence itself is a contradiction to the message.

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No, I don't think they would make fun of their target demographic.

I think it is more of a device to get people defending barbie from accusations like that, by making much more outrageous accusations. I think whoever watched that scene would be like:"Whatever she is, barbie can't possibly be a fascist" and "that kid knows some big words, but does she really know what 'fascist' means?".

Later barbie even spelled it out in case there was any confusion.

A movie made by Mattel was never going to let people thinking ill of barbie.

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Hilarious.

It really requires one to ponder what came first, the female, or mental illness.

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That wasn't a teenage girl. That was a robot who was programmed to say all the stuff the angry, bitter, 30-40-something bitches in Hollyweird obsess over day and night. Real teen girls don't complain about nonsense like that. I mean, it's about as realistic as little boys being kind to Barbie dolls without mom and dad glaring over their shoulders and forcing them to behave.

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you're saying young people today are not socially aware? aka "woke" as conservatives would call them?

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The biggest critics of women and girls are nearly always other women and girls. Cattiness is second nature to a lot of females. The penny might drop one day.

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it's very true. I've heard women admit that when they go out, they don't dress to the 9's to impress men, they do it to impress other women. Most (straight) Men don't care or notice what women are wearing or how much makeup they wear. We'll notice if it's something revealing.

We just want to get between their legs at the end of the evening, that's all we care about :).

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That was the most cringe scene. And funny since it was so unrealistic since that girl looked like she never saw a barbie doll in her life. And if she saw then she never played with her. And in no way barbie doll could ruin anything.

I’m actually offended they ignored REAL PROBLEM and basically put blame on poor Barbie.

No, girls dont feel ugly and worthless because of Barbie. Its because of CELEBRITIES. They put those unrealistic standards of beauty where girls see how perfect those actresses and popstars look, their porcelain face and feel ugly.

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I agree, media, society and celebrities are mostly to blame for women's vanity. It's not Barbie's fault; she's just a plastic doll of unrealistic proportions. Girls don't equate that to real life.

It's also partly genetic. Women have a short child-bearing window. They have to look good to attract a mate.

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