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I am done with this franchise officially and it's dead to me


I must say this is The Last Jedi or Superman Returns of the franchise for me!

It's nothing but a half-assed cashgrab sequel which feels like a big screen bad fanfiction story (despite there are some good on the internet) than an actual movie, with poor writing, bad poorly written humor that felt out of place, poor scares, nostalgic jerking off, boring story and steals from Halloween 2 1981/4/H2O which are all better than this and almost not as bad as 5/Resurrection/Zombie's 2 and as lame as 6/Zombie's remake. Poor movie! i put it on par with Zombie's 1 and 2, Resurrection and 5 being one of the worst halloween films! poor writing and all, this was a waste of money for me! i'm done, i'm fed up with this franchise, to me it ended with H2O and i don't need a fake Halloween 2 when i got the real one at home on blu-ray in my boxset as that's the real Halloween 2 to me from 1981 and i like the brother-sister idea in 2 and H2O.

Also ripping off H2O, 4, 1978 and 2, it's not homaging it's just stealing from the other films. This one is just a sloppy money grab with no soul/passion or likable characters, even Jamie Lee Curtis was no help as she was haggard and did this for a paycheck and for money. I think it's time we bury this franchise! no one asked for this sequel. Stop beating this dead horse already! let it rest in peace as Michael earned his retirement. I agree with one of my friends Mike Brown aka Ocpcommunications to have horror get out of the shitter in the mainsteam is to take a page from the independent studios and independent horror films and foreign horror films with stuff like It Follows, Housebound, The Babadook, Tragedy Girls etc. stop remaking great horror films that don't need to be remade like Poltergeist, stop making sequels to worn out horror franchises, stop prequels etc.

independent horror films are out from the shitter known as mainstream when the mainstream should get out of the shitter, look for independent or foreign and say "screw the mainstream" sometimes as sometimes there is surprises like A Quiet Place etc. and when i'm talking mainstream i mean shit like Poltergeist remake which thankfully bombed and Insidious 4 which didn't do well and dunno why Ouiji a hit, i'm glad people went to see It Follows and some people support that. Enough too much PG-13 stuff like Ouiji but A Quiet Place was excellent for a PG-13 horror film and IT was an R rated hit which was a fresh change of pace for a blockbuster horror film not PG-13 despite it's another adaptation of a book.

Remake little known films like Blood Beach or Lifeforce rather than classics like Poltergeist which thankfully bombed but Suspiria looks nice and should be a good remake that is trying something different than be a xerox copy like Poltergeist. They need risks again, take it again mainstream just like the independents are! Paranormal Activity wasn't a risk, stop with the ghost movies, stop with the found footage movies and do something different in the mainstream horror genre. Take a page from It Follows. Stop being lazy mainstream horror genre, get off your fat ass and put down the potato chips or twinkies shoving and shoving them in your mouth and do something else, start trying to do something unique. Just try something different than another remake of a great movie like Poltergeist, sequel to an older franchise, found footage and all that. I don't get the hype and praise Halloween 2018 is getting! A Quiet Place was a much better 2018 horror film than this cashgrab sequel as it was something different, it took risks and became a box-office hit as i welcome it and i welcome the upcoming sequel as this is a new fresh franchise i want to embrace.

i just don't want to see these horror icons (Jason, Freddy, Chucky, Ghostface, Michael, Leatherface, Jigsaw) over and over again on the big screen and your just gonna get diminishing returns just like the Universal monsters being ran into the ground in the 30s/40s/50s as they had huge characters and big hits on their hands then pumped out sequel after another (the only great sequel is Bride of Frankenstein) and the bottom completely fell out with diminishing box-office returns and before these characters became jokes even with Abbot and Costello movies then Universal knew when to quit. If Halloween 2018 becomes a hit then studios will be like "audiences want more Halloween, they want more Candyman, more Freddy, Jason Voorhees etc.", but for Candyman, one Candyman movie was enough as the first was excellent but the sequels were cash-ins and no more Elm Street films, Robert IS Freddy as Jackie proved it was a failure to recast Freddy for you can't do it, Robert IS the character and always was as even Englund said so.

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Can't we have new horror icons already? let the worn out old tired icons like Freddy, Michael, Jason, Leatherface, Jigsaw, Ghostface, Candyman, Chucky and Pinhead die and rest in peace already, don't keep digging up them from their graves every 5 or 10 or 15 years then propping their corpses up on the big screen in Weekend at Bernies style. Just come up with with your own new horror icon and new horror franchise already! i'm not a big fan of Insidious and the Conjuring spin-offs but at least it's something different, well not quite different, but not the same old horror franchise some of us seen or the same horror icons for they are trying to create their own. I know they haven't been the best but at least they are giving a shit and giving it an effort, that's just how i feel about it.

Just try try again mainstream horror! making new horror icons would actually work because there are no ideas to bring in for most horror icons. New horror icons might get the hate, but it may take time before the newer ones would gain praise. I'll say this though. Even though using the same stuff is unnecessary. Just like in the last decade we got new horror icons in the mainstream like the Creeper, Captain Splauding and Jigsaw while Sam from Trick R Treat becomes a cult horror icon with Leslie Vernon when Trick and Behind the Mask were sent to the DVD direct to video market rather than to all mainstream theaters which should had happened even Hatchet was shown in midnight theaters than all theaters as there's Victor Crawley whom is a cult horror icon.

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Now outside the mainstream we got Wolfcop, Tucker and Dale etc. should had been released in all theaters. I'd say end these horror franchises (Chucky/Halloween/Elm Street/Friday The 13th/Saw/Scream/Hellraiser/Texas Chainsaw Massacre) and bury them, let them rest in peace from film and let them live on through merchandise, comics, video games, toys, appreal, streams of the old movies on amazon/hulu/crackle/Netflix whatever even re-issues of the films on blu-ray and that's fair game.

Can we have new original cinematic horror icons/new franchises already? try to come up with new horror icons/franchises and try try again mainstream and let the older franchises rest in peace in favor of new franchises/new icons. I saw Hell Fest which is something different in mainstream horror and a comeback for slasher films, if anyone who is fed up with what's been done to these icons need send the message to studios we want fresh new horror icons and new franchises as that movie has potential to make one. Yet there is some like me (one who is like a couple of friends on youtube Ocpcommunications and Ramboraph4life being them some other horror fans who are tired of these same old worn out horror franchises being hurt by these new sequels/remakes hurting the franchises legacy and staining their name to become jokes). Just don't make anymore. That's the advice. The more you make, the longer you keep this franchise sucking the life out of other horror projects and potential franchises. This is like when Universal completely ran their Monsters franchise into the ground, just make new ones already and new icons.

Being a fan of these horror franchises/older horror icons is like having a beloved pet you had memories with and grew up with, but sadly the time has come to put it to sleep. Or it's like having a friend terminally ill on life support. You know it's hard to pull the plug but it's for the best.

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I agree and disagree at the same time. You are right. The current franchises have LONG worn us out and need to be laid to rest. But I disagree that we need new franchises. Historically, sequels suck a dog's ass. Some - but not all - give us decent part 2 entries, and a few (VERY few) have managed to squeeze out a decent part 3, but I've yet to find any franchise that gives us anything decent beyond that (except MAYBE Wrong Turn when I am in the mood for it). But on the flip side, fresh ideas are hard to come by, especially in horror. To my delight, 2018 has given us Ari Aster's HEREDITARY, which has warmed my cold heart immensely. How badly this will get butchered with a sequel by an Aster wannabe, remains to be seen.

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Well, good! Good for you!

A big ol’ rant of pure whinery. A dozen of objectively worse movies in this franchise but now this is the film that killed it for you. Man, that unhinged Last Jedi hate crowd is like a virus.

It’s a good thing the likes of you aren’t in control of these movies and won’t determined how they’ll be seen in the future.
I am so done with your types (open minded and unabiased viewers you know you’re not). Adieu!

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Ever heard of youtube critics Ocpcommunications/Ramboraph4life? they are friends of mine whom them and i have similar opinions on films and honest opinions without lying.

I just want these franchises and their icons like Scream, Elm Street, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Child's Play, Halloween, Friday The 13th, Saw, Hellraiser etc. to rest in peace, die already and be buried and have mainstream horror come up with new horror franchises and new icons, that's all i want. A Quiet Place was a risk and it was a hit and i loved it as it was something different and not the same horror icons i've seen before, it was something new and i'm glad we are getting sequels to Quiet Place.

I also want the mainstream horror genre to stop being a fatass lazy person and take notes from the independent horror genre and foreign horror genre and learn how to take risks again and all even to learn from A Quiet Place and to let older icons/franchises rest in peace and make new ones.

Overlord should be a better film than this turd and it's something different.

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What I want is restored versions of the F13 movies. As in, with all the gore.

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Lmao, this is where you draw the line? Not at Curse of Michael Myers or Resurrection? Now those were shit.

You don't want to watch these horror icons, well good, who's forcing you? Have some self control, stop watching them, and stop acting like a whiny brat. This whole post is basically "waaaah i dont like this that or the other thing, it should be stopped! waaaah!".

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I just want these horror icons to die and i want new ones

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They'll never die!

But yeah, do bring on new ones. And more way impressive than Annabelle.

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What a massive pool of word vomit...

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