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Any thoughts on the prequel show?
Remake in works
Terminator: Dark Woke or why hasn't this franchise been terminated?
the clerk
Anyone see Demolition Man vibes?
Wow what a show!
Would Tyler Durden be considered a hero if he existed?
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Yup briefly before eyes turned into grey raisins and went in the sockets and down the throat where he swallowed his eyes as his skin turns grey with nose/ears disappearing, voice box shrinking, brain decomposing, and all
Except that Norton got rid of that monster Tyler
Tyler ruins lives
Your a moron who thinks in Tyler's dumb fantasy, reality is that the clerk is suffering from PTSD as he was assaulted by a crazy madman who talks to himself and terrified.
But the point is Tyler isn't cool. Tyler is a complete monster. He sounds cool. He looks cool. You might think he acts cool, until you see what's going on underneath. Tyler represents every bad instinct, every hurtful thought, every violent impulse. His "cool" is a sound byte meant to distract you from the awful things he means to do for no better reason than because he can. He's a sociopath. Ego unleashed.
He represents selfishness, and violence. He's anger and chaos and fuck the world. He isn't about lashing out at authority, or trying to forge your own identity. He's about destructively acting out at everything you've labelled as hurtful, at everything that makes you a "victim", just so that you don't have to take real responsibility. Tyler isn't working from home because he's responsible, he's working from home because he's a terrorist.
it's a negative experience for the clerk and likely very traumatic. Most people do. It's the point of the scene, it establishes Tyler's lack of morality and twisted view of things. There always has been, but the movie makes it pretty clear the entire time that Tyler is a bad person who should not be emulated. Most normal people agreed the first time that yes, Norton/Pitt are traumatizing the store clerk and his little monologue about the clerk being better off for it is insane and backwards. I'm just saying, it's not a controversial take, it's the correct and agreed upon take of the film and the film itself supports that narrative.
It's like you're watching the villain of a movie do something bad and wrong and you're going 'yikes, I don't know about this one guys, that guy seems bad and wrong!' it's like... yeah.
Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Raymond K. Hessel’s life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever tasted.”
And herein lies the center of Fight Club’s logical fallacy. Odds are, Raymond K. Hessel isn’t going to just float through life now, thinking “oh my god, I’m so grateful I’m alive” and healing hurt animals.
Instead, his limbic system will likely stay in overdrive owing to the trauma of having a gun pointed at his head, owing to the realization that there is a crazy madman who talks to himself who knows where he lives and wants to kill him if he doesn’t become a veterinarian. My guess is that tomorrow will be the worst day of Raymond K. Hessel’s life. Anxiety will make decisions for him, for the rest of his life, even more than poverty already has. let's face it, instead of celebrating what Tyler does, consider what actually happens to Raymond. There's no Marvel-style post-credits of him walking in a cap and gown, collecting a diploma. The last we see of the man, is a person in true fear, running from an incident
The protagonist ruining a man’s life to make a point to himself.
Why do some assume he’s gonna be a vet?
“Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Raymond K. Hessel’s life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever tasted.”
I doubt it. the clerk won’t be able to eat tonight because he was just held up at gunpoint. He’ll have to report this to the police and go through the bullshit hassle of getting a new license. He’ll probably be too terrified to sleep, afraid to walk on the streets at night alone, possibly suffer PTSD
Maybe you remember the scene where our protagonist (both halves of him) drags one of the only people of color in the whole film out behind the building at his shitty job, puts a gun to his head, and tells him to go back to school to be a veterinarian like he always wanted to be. And half our protagonist (we’ll call this half “Edward Norton”) tells the other half (we’ll call this half “Mr. wannabe Cool”) that maybe he shouldn’t go around pointing guns at people. Because, you know, maybe that’s taking it too far.
My guess is that tomorrow will be the worst day of Raymond K. Hessel’s life. Anxiety will make decisions for him, for the rest of his life, even more than poverty already has.
But that’s the idea of Fight Club, right? Whoa, what if we… took it too far? Just like how Mr. Cool is taking Mr. Norton over the edge. Wouldn’t that be great?
No, it wouldn’t.
What does Mr. Cool say to the complaining Mr. Norton?
“Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Raymond K. Hessel’s life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever tasted.”
And herein lies the center of Fight Club’s logical fallacy. Odds are, Raymond K. Hessel isn’t going to just float through life now, thinking “oh my god, I’m so grateful I’m alive” and healing hurt animals.
Instead, his limbic system will likely stay in overdrive owing to the trauma of having a gun pointed at his head, owing to the realization that there is a crazy madman who talks to himself who knows where he lives and wants to kill him if he doesn’t become a veterinarian. My guess is that tomorrow will be the worst day of Raymond K. Hessel’s life. Anxiety will make decisions for him, for the rest of his life, even more than poverty already has.
The protagonist ruining a man's life to make a point to himself.
I have a sneaking suspicion that our Raymond K. Hessel didn’t quit his dreams because he was lazy, but because he was poor.
A favor? not really? i doubt he ever went to vet school as he suffered from PTSD and becoming an alcoholic and being too scared to walk alone at night and all. He would have to report the maniac to the police and get a new license.
The clerk was terrfied as hell and too scared to walk at night alone.
Your too stupid to realize how much of a monster Tyler is and a terrorist and a terrifying dirtbag.
The poor man is gonna get PTSD as he's too terrified and all, i doubt he went to Vet school
What's true about giving someone PTSD? and do you agree he's a monster?
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