Robin Williams


Rewatching the Robin Williams episode in light of recent events is absolutely tear-jerking.

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I love robin and did not know he was on this who did he play?

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Robin Williams guest starred in one episode in season 3. You should see it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2260188/?ref_=ttep_ep6

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Robin and Joan Rivers both appeared in Season 3. I'm surprised a 'Louie curse' hasn't been suggested yet. But Robin's appearance was certainly more prescient.

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Hmm, a "Louie Cruse?" That can't be because the world isn't ready for Jerry Seinfeld to go.

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It certainly isn't. But, if such a curse existed, I am assuming it applies only to comedians who appeared in season 3 exclusively. Therefore, his appearance in season 4 saves him. Of course, all of this 'curse' talk is pure speculation and in no way reflects how I feel about what appears to have been a tragic coincidence.

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I am.

"Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity." - George Carlin

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Me too man....F#@% that guy.

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I always thought Robin Williams was pretty dumb even as a kid so I dont get it.

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Oh my god. Just realized it too. Joan Rivers and Robin Williams... Sarah Silverman next? Going for the trifecta?
That's really crazy. Are there other guest stars for this show I can't think of that haven't died yet?

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Sarah Silverman was more of a rarely occurring semi regular of the group of comics. With Joan and Robin being guest star comedians with a story built around them, then that means......... Dane Cook.

To Love and win is the best thing. To Love and lose, the next best.

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Doug Stanhope is obviously next.

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So did Louie go to his funeral?

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It worked out that I ended up watching that episode on the anniversary of his death. Kind of heavy.

"I said no camels, that's five camels, can't you count?"

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That was a great episode. Very touching. It reminded me of the often overlooked performance that Robin Williams gave the film "The World According to Garp". That is on of my favorite Robin Williams movies.

~It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: The music is nothing if the audience is deaf.~

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Does Robin Williams play himself in that episode of Louie? Yes, I know he introduces himself to Louie as Robin but I got the impression that he wasn't playing the Mork from Ork/Jumanji/Mrs. Doubtfire version of himself that we all know.

I got the impression that, like Louie, he was playing a much less successful version of himself.

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Success if very relative. I am not sure that he perceived the success of some harmless and watered down feel-good comedy like Mrs. Doubtfire as creative success, even though it does not lack any serious craft on his part. After listening to the great interview he had with Marc Maron, I got the feeling this sober tragical version is much closer to the real Robin Williams than anything he has said or done in front of a bigger audience.

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I am not sure that he perceived the success of some harmless and watered down feel-good comedy like Mrs. Doubtfire as creative success,


Why not?

Let's be bad guys.

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Because at some point an artist wants to be known for his art, not for rather meaningless entertainment.

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Because at some point an artist wants to be known for his art, not for rather meaningless entertainment.


But that's just you assuming Robin feels the same way. You assume Robin cared more about art rather than entertaining people. And you also assume Robin saw his work as "meaningless."

What I actually meant was "What makes you think Robin Williams feels that way about Mrs. Doubfire?"

Are there any interviews where he denounces it? Or avoids discussing it? Or laments making it?


Let's be bad guys.

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He was way too professional and loyal to have said anything like that. But he never really mentioned that kind of work outside promo interviews either, unlike his serious work, so it is clear he did not feel correctly defined by that part of his output.

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He was way too professional and loyal to have said anything like that.


So you never heard or read about his problems with Disney? Which he had plenty to say about.

But he never really mentioned that kind of work outside promo interviews either unlike his serious work,


Example?

so it is clear he did not feel correctly defined by that part of his output.


"He needed the money, the Oscar-winning star confessed to a friend, and he 'resented' having to return to making movies - which he said drained his spirit and made him more vulnerable to depression, the Daily Telegraph reports."

Looks like Williams didn't even like his serious work all that much either when it came to making movies. He wanted to work on The Crazy Ones: a sitcom.

Let's be bad guys.

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Hating Disney as a production company is rather abstract and does not mean dismissing specific work. The difference is that by dismissing a specific movie one also belittles the other people working on it. It would suprise me if Williams would have been that kind of *beep* who would take the money and then badmouth people forced to do the same.

Example?
An example about how he never talked about Flubber? Or how he did not talk about Patch Adams? Just take a random interview which is not made during the promotion of one of his comedies and you won't read a word about it unless the interviewer specifically asks for it. His serious work obviously comes up more often since his career defining moments, other than Mork perhaps, happened in serious movies, so even if I dug out quotes, this would not necessary mean that he would rate his work on The Dead Poet Society higher than his antics in Patch Adam.

which he said drained his spirit and made him more vulnerable to depression
Which does not really say much: an artist moving out of his comfort zone is always more vulnerable. The more a movie defines him, the more he will identify with the result. Also the reward is much higher if the result is a success. That is kind of the point of being an artist.
I can totally see why he would avoid to get into that position again, or like with his sitcom, on his own terms. And when looking at how The Crazy Ones bombed ratingwise, it does not seem he was any less vulnerable in that case. I am not sure whether the rather harsh critics about Flubber hit him remotely as hard, but they did not make him kill himself.

Still the quote might tell why he loved doing stand-up much more than his other work (I think he mentions that in his chat with Marc Maron, which obviously is a lot about their common ground: adiction and stand up).

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Just take a random interview which is not made during the promotion of one of his comedies and you won't read a word about it unless the interviewer specifically asks for it.


The same can be said for his comedic work. And you forget, Robin started as a comedian. So assuming his dramatic work is what defines his career for him would be as faulty as saying Deniro's comedy work defines his. People, artists included, can be defined by both and be proud of both.

Which does not really say much:


It says plenty. It says he didn't value drama over comedy. Just that he preferred to work on his own terms. Which can be applied to both comedy and drama.

Also the reward is much higher if the result is a success. That is kind of the point of being an artist.


Like Mrs. Doubtfire was.

Again, there's nothing that points to him not being proud of doing Mrs. Doubtfire other than pure speculation.

Let's be bad guys.

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So assuming his dramatic work is what defines his career for him would be as faulty as saying Deniro's comedy work defines his.
Well, DeNiro stayed serious for much longer in his career, where Williams pretty early showed his whole range of abilities with Goodmorning Vietnam, which is a more integral part of his career than some late comedy in DeNiro's.
It says he didn't value drama over comedy.
Not really, he just talks about the personal cost of movie making without going into detail.
Like Mrs. Doubtfire was.
Not an artistic success, just a commercial one. Especially when you look at what parts got cut out.

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