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laughably bad and terrible on so many levels

posted 11 years ago by jritty
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First off the movie is a lie, based on a book that is (mostly) all lies. Ignoring alot of aspects that we could consider 'truths' and taking aspects from the book and re-arranging them to suit it's narrative - this is irresponsible filmmaking at it's best. Yes movies and facts/documentaries are two different things but when a film presents itself as 'the true story' it should be just that - true. It reminded me of Public Enemies (a movie that was also factually all over the map).

The movie starts off with Richard and Deborah(?) getting together and then jumps to them having a kid - forgetting about all the abuse that led to 3 miscarriages. Like how he punched her in the stommach and the 3rd one she was found with the (dead) baby's foot sticking out of her (if that is true - it's still repugnant). "Congratulations - you're a father..." wtf was that *beep* Just the start of complete *beep* that goes on for 1:45 mins... Ray Liotta's character shouldn't even BE in this movie for christ's sakes, as he didn't even work with Kuklinksi.

The movie is just plain silly at times. For example the scene where he hits the guy's car then chases him relentlessly. First off this stone cold pyscho got mad at OTHER people who drove poorly. He was arrested for punching out bad drivers' windshields and ripping the door off a lady's car! lol And for a guy who loves his family so much to recklessly careen through traffic like a lunatic - putting everyone's life at risk - goes against the *beep* 'just a family man' angle this movie plays up.

Even just taking the movie at face value fails because of the inappropriate casting choices. Wow was this movie miscast. Everyone stands out like a sore thumb and no one is believable. James Franco, David Schwimmer, Steven Dorff...everyone is terrible. I like Chris Evans but jesus did he look ridiculous (I doubt marvel was happy about Captain America playing such a piece of *beep* too lol). Shannon is good as is Ryder but it's such b.s. that I couldn't even appreciate the characters as they were in THIS 'fairy tale' nonsense.

I was anxiously awaiting this film since I heard about and then wondered what happened to it - now I know. It was buried for a good reason.

You Suck...now deal with it.

[–] wayneski 10 years ago

You definitely have legitimate gripes about this movie. Although, I would say, there is also a lot of good material in this movie. I agree there were many "missing" scenes to develop the main character. The movie could of easily went to the 3 hour mark with relentless grip.

Now, why didn't that happen? I suspect the low budget and the experience of the director was simply not there. A $10 million dollar budget? Hollywood can burn through that just renting costumes.

So what we have is pretty good in my estimation. The sets and costumes of the 70's-80's was really great. The cast did a great job with what they were given.

We have to support smaller budget films, or else films like these will cease to be made. And we'll just hem and haw over the latest super-hero flick.

Now that would be laughably bad and terrible...

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