New Season!
Just wanted to say I'm excited for the new season to start up soon! Really interested to see where this whole 'Dreamland' thing goes. Noir will fit them very well, I think.
shareJust wanted to say I'm excited for the new season to start up soon! Really interested to see where this whole 'Dreamland' thing goes. Noir will fit them very well, I think.
shareDreamland is also a code name for Area 51. Can't wait for Archer to mention the Roswell crash!
shareThey already went to Area 51 in season 6. It wasn't a very good episode.
shareI thought it was a good episode. I always love it when we are reminded that despite often being a moron Archer is a total bad ass.
shareThere are much better episodes that do that. I think what bothered me about that one was how much of a letdown it was, story-wise. It had some really funny moments, in fact it has two of my all-time favorite scenes in the show. The first is the sequence of cutaway scenes showing Archer ending up on the no-fly and "no-train" lists, and the second is the fake-out parody scene as the plane is crashing when Archer calms Cheryl by kissing her and channeling Humphrey Bogart, only to drop her the next moment. As great as those scenes were, though, the rest of the episode wasn't nearly funny enough to cover for the fact that nothing really interesting happened. Pam and Krieger pursue aliens, but when they finally catch up to them they're not very interesting (or they might have been had they been given more screen time)
As for that fight scene, something about it didn't sit well with me. I guess it was because Archer could have avoided murdering all those soldiers (American soldiers at that, so there wasn't even the excuse that they were the enemy) if he hadn't let Pam and Krieger wander off because he was too busy fixing a drink (and if he had bothered to learn the name of the colonel who first interrogated them). When they got off the crashed plane, he acted competent for once by successfully conning the colonel into thinking he was Agent Slater (and by making a sinister reference to Project MkUltra to scare him into giving them Jeeps), but later when he's stopped by the soldiers it turns out he thought the colonel was a lieutenant named Colonel ("Lieutenant Colonel"), so he doesn't know who they should radio to vouch for his presence. That's a funny twist, but when he's left with no choice but to kill them that's taking the joke too far. It's not that scenes of Archer killing people bother me (the opening scene of the Bob's Burgers crossover is great), it's that he was killing American soldiers over a situation that was almost entirely his fault.
None of the soldiers were killed in that fight scene. Knocked unconscious? Yes. Killed? No.
shareWho cares if they're American soldiers? Lol
shareSuch a well thought response...
shareNo seriously? Why does it matter to you that they're Americans? I thought the episode was hilarious from start to finish. You on the other hand, can't get over your deep-seated propoganda-fueled patriotism for the United States. So that's why you don't like the episode. It comes off as childishly ridiculous.
shareThis is my notice that I will not engage you further until you indicate you wish to discuss this seriously and not engage in a flamewar.
shareI simply don't know how to describe your opinion other than absurdly pro-American. I find it disturbing.
shareWhat is absurd about it?
shareWhy does it matter that the guards are American? He can't enjoy a show because some American military personnel guarding Area 51 maybe got killed in a fictional cartoon show about spies and carnage? Yeah, I find that extremely absurdly pro-American.
shareI didn't say he couldn't enjoy it. Let me restate my point: if the scene had shown Archer killing enemy soldiers that would not at all be unusual, because that's the whole premise of the show. He's an American spy (albeit it turns out, spoiler alert, that he's spying for an agency not sanctioned by the U.S. government, but that's a minor quibble), it's his job to kill enemies of the U.S. Anyone who finds that uncomfortable shouldn't watch the show.
But now in this episode we get a scene of Archer murdering American soldiers, and why? Because Archer has turned into a rebel against the U.S. government? No, he kills them because his stupidity and incompetence got him into this situation. My point is the writer didn't have to put him in that situation. No, I'm not saying the writer was trying to make an anti-American statement, I'm saying the writer didn't think things through. The whole episode is sloppily written.
To sum up, the scene makes me uncomfortable because it's an American killing fellow Americans for stupid reasons. By the way, I would feel the same way if it were Canadian or British soldiers he killed (since they are our allies). I'm not saying you can't have such a scene in the show, I'm saying if you're going to do that then at least have an intelligent justification for it, don't just have the justification be that Archer is an idiot.
Once again, NONE of the soldiers were killed in that fight scene. This is not "opinion" or "open to interpretation." The episode makes it very clear that they're all still alive.
shareIt's set in 1947 LA. The year of the Roswell Crash! Trailer & Promo.
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