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Why is this movie praised for its relentlessly sexist theme?


At the start of the movie, the main character is a career woman.

She has not necessarily chosen this path for herself freely, and she does not appear to understand why she has to follow any career at all. However, she has been brainwashed (by feminism) into thinking that what she is doing is right and proper.

She is successful at her career (at first), and her male bosses are happy with her work.

The movie makes abundantly clear (in a very heavy-handed fashion) that this is not natural. There is a scene in which a baby is crying. The viewer is invited to believe that the proper thing for any woman to do would be to pick up that baby and comfort it.

Instead, heartlessly, the character ignores the child's needs to pursue her own career.

Despite her apparent achievements in completing the tasks allocated, the movie makes clear that she finds her work unfulfilling.

In a change that the viewer is apparently expected to welcome, she turns her back on her job and her independence (the van). She wanders aimlessly, until she is able to find a man to look after her.

She inspects her body to contemplate how she should use it to pay back the man for taking care of her, and enabling her to stay at home.

Unfortunately she discovers that she is unable to give the man his proper reward. Just when she thought that the proper and natural order of the universe had been restored, and she could live a woman's life with her man, she realises that she is not a proper woman after all. Proper women can have sex with men.

When she realises that she cannot have sex with men she realises her life is worthless. (After all, there is no other form of sex).

It's now time for the movie to end her. The character was unable to profit from the valuable lesson that she learned, but perhaps her story can help female viewers to avoid the mistakes she made.



Why do people say that they find this movie's nasty message appealing?




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It's very revealing that this movie's fans are so quick to resort to personal insults, and so slow to try to use evidence from the movie to back up their opinions.


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i can't even udnerstand why you turn the movie into something else. The character is not a woman, its an alian! IT, not she. The alien is in the form of a human. And to lure the male human population in this "factories", to get their skin i guess?!? it has to be in a hot woman skin of course. There are for sure aliens in a male skin on the job too i guess, otherwise the alien who is played by Scarlett wouldn't have the skin that it has. So, the further the movie goes the alien grows fond of its "mask" and gets curious about humans and their behaviour. That's more or less it. I really can't see the sexism here and all your points are made from the view that movie isn't about aliens, but a normal woman who is a killer?!?!? I mean, you're really ignoring the theme and everything important in this movie, so i get that they guy before wrote that stuff about you.
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Well written satire you got there, though not that original. I give it 7/10.

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I'll give it an 8.

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I thought it was excellent satire!

He/she even had me for a moment.

Well done, Patzok!

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This movie has many different interpretations that are all pretty valid, so I can understand why someone wouldn't see the movie the way you have.

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I can understand why someone wouldn't see the movie the way you have.

Oh, I can understand that people are not going to admit that their reasons for liking the movie are the ones that I mention.

But whatever gloss people try to put on it, they see the character as "becoming a true woman" (or somesuch) when she finds a man to give her a bed.

And how many people keep mentioning the baby scene as being "brilliant" (or somesuch) for showing how defective she previously was?


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How dare you tell other people what they see and how they see it.

Arrogant much?

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I 100% agree. Anyone who doesn't realize the glaringly obvious sexist undertones of the film isn't seeing through the surface of it. Abandoning the child should be the biggest eye opener, the clearest metaphor for how the filmmakers see certain women. Thank you, Padzoc, for sharing your conclusions.

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I think you missed the point of the baby scene entirely. I don't think the scene was intended to convey "look at the horrible woman who doesn't care about babies" at all. I was to intended to convey that she was another thing entirely, not human. The baby didn't even register on her radar because she's not one of us.

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I think you missed the point of the baby scene entirely. I don't think the scene was intended to convey "look at the horrible woman who doesn't care about babies" at all. I was to intended to convey that she was another thing entirely, not human. The baby didn't even register on her radar because she's not one of us.


The makers made a deliberate choice to use a baby.

Do you dispute that the point of that scene was to convey the "wrongness" of the character's actions, before she chose the "right" path?

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Yes. The scene was stressing the point that it, the alien, was not human. Any human would have helped that baby. The baby served no purpose to the alien so it ignored the baby.
The scene was reinforced when it, the alien, sent the motorcycle riding alien back to retrieve the jacket and the baby was ignored again.

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I saw the baby scene as a way of showing the indifference the aliens have to humankind. To see it as some sort of feminist cliché is a bit cheap and simplistic, IMO.

The start of the film showed a similar indifference. She was looking at all males whether they be young, old, black, white etc, as a means to an end. She did not select her victim based on anything more than their isolation or lack of support from friends/family. The friendly chat was nothing more than a means of lowering their defences.

The film to me was showing how a serial killer might select his/her victims. The same was true in the end when the roles were reversed and the logger became the psycotic one with the friendly chat, when all along he was simply a predator just like the alien.

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You are right that this movie is completely sexist, but you are wrong in your interpretation of who it is sexist towards. There are no female characters in the movie so obviously there is no sexism towards women. There is, however, an alien who is made to look like a woman so that she can capture men for the purpose of, well, that is never made fully clear but the men are certainly killed. In this movie, as is VERY common nowadays, women are portrayed very positively while men are shown in a horribly negative light. Men are shown to be complete morons - totally incapable of suppressing their sexual urges and making rational decisions - who will jump into a van because there's a pretty girl in it and follow her blindly to their doom. It's ridiculous, revolting, and horribly sexist towards men. Television shows, movies, and advertisements now constantly show women to be strong, intelligent, decision making adults, while men are portrayed as weak and stupid adolescents who must be controlled by their superior female partners.

You're right that there is a relentlessly sexist theme. It is hugely sexist towards men. It is a common theme nowadays that we are constantly bombarded with and it must be stopped.

A woman walks through a park late at night and gets raped. When a senior public official says that women should not walk through parks alone at night - which would seem completely bl00dy obvious but apparently isn't to some people - he is lambasted for saying that women are inviting rape, even though that is NOTHING at all like what he actually said. We are told that men must control themselves and that a woman should be able to walk down the street naked, bending over to pick up change as often as she likes, and that any man in the vicinity shouldn't even look in her direction. Next thing though we have a movie like this in which men just leap into a van and follow a woman to their death when she starts undressing, the very clear implication being that men would be incapable of suppressing their sexual desires and using their intellects in that situation - obviously hot women regularly pick up ugly guys in their car and take them home for immediate, no questions asked sex, so there's nothing suspicious going on - and yet no one bats an eyelid and points out that men aren't just animals with no self control; as we're told every time a woman gets raped after walking alone at night. This movie is, as a result, completely and utterly sexist towards men...

But wait... there's more!

Next thing a man actually DOES try to rape the alien, so now it's not just implied that men are incapable of control and are basically just sexually driven animals, it's now being stated very clearly; just in case you missed it earlier. As if that wasn't bad enough though, we now have people like you turning around and saying that this movie is sexist towards women.

UNBELIEVABLE!

Are you a troll, or a moron, or are you just deliberately obtuse?

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OK, so we disagree on some minor details, but fundamentally agree that the movie was crap.

Done.

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Ha!

:-D

We're from the planet Duplon. We are here to destroy you.

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I can't believe how racist this movie was actually. Scarlett didn't hook up with a single black guy - wtf? Their meat isn't good enough for these aliens? And then there's the metaphorical 'white dudes walking into BLACKness to die'? And then omfg Scarlett the evil alien is really secretly black under her white skin, which makes that white honky want to kill her!

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WTH is wrong with you?!? This movie was CLEARLY racist, but it was racist against Caucasians. Who does she kill? White men. Who does she try to live amongst, until she is forced to acknowledge that her alien inferiority (that *had* been superiority up to when she started empathising with White men, indicating Caucasian empathy is a flaw) leaves her unsuitable? White men. All the Caucasian men are portrayed as addled horndogs.

Sheesh.

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taticat, look up 'sarcasm' in your dictionary...

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lmao!

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Brilliant!!!

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fillshertease interruption was much smarter and make more sense than the original poster.

but I think this movie is sexist against animals, why she didn't have sex with animals? it's not fair.

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why she didn't have sex with animals? it's not fair.


What about the ant? I think that was implied.

No, silly

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If anything, Under the Skin shows itself to be against sexism. Laura's transition from a calculated seductress to a sensitive person emphasises how she was previously used for immoral purposes. Laura begins to gain a sense of humanity in understanding that she had been wrongly used.

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Padoz and Taticat...Wow. Just wow. I need not say more.

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Wow. Just wow.


Thank you.


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why do you assume she wants to have sex to reward the man? He wasn't a rapist like the next dude and I think if she told him that she needed help without sex he would have did so.

I think she wanted to have sex to have a little bit of pleasure in this life before her death. She had 4 motorcycle guys after her. Her days were numbered until they either caught her or she had an "accident" and was revealed. She knew she could never go back home. Not every sexual act a woman does is centered around the guy.

I think she also tried eating the cake for similar reasons to having six. She knew this was something humans found pleasurable but she found it revolting (or may have not even been able to do it).

The main motor cycle guy walks past the crying baby while pickin up the Czech guy's stuff.

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Thank you Mr Rocket - a voice of reason!

"A gorilla?! I couldn't *beep* a gorilla!

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Nice MRA satire/trolling: 6/10

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