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Have You Ever Met An Assassin?!!


Are there real assassins in real world?..I mean professional killers who live alone and hired to kill and stuff like in Hollywood movies?!
I know it's kinda dump question but i really interested to know if any of you guys like met one of them or heard real stories about them.
Just asking. :)

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When I was a much younger man, I was the executive director of an ethnically-related non-profit organization. In that capacity, I was invited through a friend of mine, by the owner of a radio station, to join an advisory committee of the station.

The owner of the station was well-known nationally.

At the very first meeting, the radio station owner got off-subject a bit and revealed that he had on his desk, the phone number of someone who would kill anyone you wanted, for a very small sum. I left the meeting and never returned.

Also, an investigative reporter in our community was killed. I worked as a part-time stringer for a national newspaper at the time. In my story investigation, I found that the man charged with the murder, committed the act after being paid for his act. Fortunately, the killer was apprehended, convicted, and is still in prison. His every action in the matter seemed to reveal that he was a paid assassin.

And, in the early 1930's a young woman was killed in our community. A friend of mine wrote a book, based on the trial transcript, about the killing. The person convicted of the killing, he is convinced, could not have committed the murder because that person was physically incapable of performing the course of action described by the prosecution. This friend of mine believes that he knows who initiated the killing. He further believes that the initiator hired a paid killer to do the crime. He is not able to prove his beliefs.

Seems as if there are really assassins prepared to take your money and do your nasty, foul deed.

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Taking money to kill someone and being a professional assassin are two very different things.

I could probably go out right now in the city I live in and find someone, possibly a street person and pay them to try to kill someone. Or make contact with a fringe militia group and do the same thing. That doesn't make the people I would hire professional assassins.

I've seen cases over the years of people paying someone to kill their spouse, or a business partner too but invariably they are caught exactely because they are not professionals and while they may manage to do the deed, they leave many clues behind.

Of course these days if you're talking to a "professional assassin" about killing someone chances are they're really an undercover cop.

So I guess it's a matte of symantics, if someone kills someone for money I guess technically they are an assassin but I wouldn't call them a professional in the sense that this movie portrays assassins. Those type of people probably don't really exist.

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I don't know. I was born during WWII. I went to a high school where there were high ratios of Italian and Jewish kids. You develop friends at various levels of society--all kinds of people. I got to know a lot of these guys--they came from high powered families and lived, at the time, in the highest taxed district in the state--meaning they were very wealthy. I spent time at these guys' houses with their families. Their moms would invite me to stay for dinner, and their dads would sometimes include me in their family activities.

Years after I graduated, I was stringing (reporting) for a national Christian weekly published in New Jersey. While covering a story about the assassination of an investigative reporter in our city, the interim city prosecutor released an announcement of a report he had done on organized crime in our city. I called him and asked him if, in my capacity as a newspaper reporter, could read the report. He said I could come by. I couldn't take it home; I couldn't make copies. It was a vicious report. It named names and specific crimes. I was ill. The names of the criminals were some of the dads I'd become friends with. Some of their sons, my friends, were also named.

I went home sick that day--went into my bedroom when I got home, took off my shoes and laid on the my bed for a long, long time. Sometimes, it is impossible to separate your professional from you personal life.

Then, I found out that a girl I had dated in high school had dated the assassin I had been tracking. She told me that she "came that close to marrying him."

So, yes, I have met and been friends with people who were professional criminals in organized crimes. Were any of them assassins?

Again, I don't know.

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There are 2 types of professional assassins that definitely exist: (1) gangster hitmen and (2) those attached to governments or political groups (KGB, MOSSAD, Tamil Tigers etc).

The question is whether there are international freelance assassins as portrayed in so many movies.

The answer is probably no. There aren't that many high-level assassinations for them to be involved in, and these are mainly covered by type 2. If someone did want an assassin with no ties to a government or a political group, they could just hire a gangster, as the CIA contracted the Mafia to kill Castro. This would make the killing look like a local, crime-related incident. Having an international specialist commit the crime really sends a signal that this is a really high-level conspiracy which isn't desirable.

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I would probably doubt anyone that just admitted they were an assassin as anonymity would be their greatest weapon even after their career.

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I don't know. It could be a daring double-bluff.

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I agree that assassins are heavily romanticised and I doubt many people on here have met the secret service type hitmen.

A few years ago I used to work near a nasty housing estate and I knew of a guy there who would beat up people for money. He also once said to someone that he has and would 'do more' for a bit extra money, and I believed him. He wasn't some trained professional at all, merely a guy who went to the gym a lot, had access to arms and had had a very rough upbringing. There was certainly nothing mystical about him, he might be able to take a punch more than you or I but he was certainly not some stylish mercenary.

If you saw him on the street you'd just think he was a normal chav or an aggressive type from a rough neighbourhood.

As another anecdote in about 2007 some friends and I were in a country pub and there was a loud, fat, drunken guy near us who kept talking loudly to anyone who would listen. He was quite annoying. Anyway, sometime later a man in slick, designer clothing came in and bought this drunk guy a drink. We watched the guy in the nice clothes give him a satchel and then leave. The drunk guy suddenly seemed to sober up completely, he looked in the bag and from what we could see there were several hefty bundles of notes inside. The fat guy, who was now acting sober and standing up right left the pub and we never saw him again.

Maybe not an assassin but there was sure as hell something weird about it.

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The question is whether there are international freelance assassins as portrayed in so many movies.
The answer is probably no.


There are plenty of EX-special forces, SAS, South African Army, KGB, what have you that are no longer employed by their government and are pure mercenaries for hire. You could say that would fall under category 2, being that they're still affiliated with their governments, but I'd imagine some are not. They might freelance for their government but would just as soon take a private contract as well. Soldiers of Fortune. This is not hard to imagine.

But whether these freelancers would solicit and do jobs for some joe schmoe off the street who wants to off his wife for insurance money, highly doubtful. Clients like that are loose ends in themselves. The type of high level hitmen that are former gov assassins aren't passed around as referrals in those types of circles for good reason.

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I was just thinking during the movie - why are those hitmen always portrayed so elegant, so James-Bond-ish?
I guess in the real life, they are brutal rednecks.

On the other hand, somebody mentioned another Clooney movie, Michael Clayton. Do you remember those two assassins who poisoned that guy and made it look like an accident? It seemed very realistic. I wondered, how did screenwriter/director know such details?

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I haven't, but a friend of mine that lives in lower NY took me out to a dive-y restaurant near his house a few years back. A man in his late 50s/early 60s came in with his much younger girlfriend. I took one look at the guy, and my blood ran cold - he gave off this vibe of being very, very dangerous. Perhaps I was "primed" by my friend's talk of the place being a reputed Mafia hangout, but I have to say, no one I've ever made eye contact with ever gave me that feeling, before or since.


"...and Mrs. Taylor sure seems to use a lotta ice, whenever he's away."

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At least, there seem to a lot of "Murders-for-Hire".
According to the FBI website, there are "140 cases not tied to organized crime currently pending".
Whether these killers are professionals who live alone is of course another story.

http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2013/january/murder-for-hire/murder-for-hire?utm_campaign=email-Immediate&utm_medium=email&utm_source=fbi-top-stories&utm_content=169913

The Canadian TV series "Nothing Personal" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1825426/?ref_=fn_al_tt_7 also deals with contract killings.

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I've met G Gordon Liddy.

"Love's turned to lust and blood's turned to dust in my heart"

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Yes I've met real assassins, I am friends with a few. I served with a few more.

The chances are you have all met one, or talked to one in passing.

US Military Snipers. They are trained assassins, lets face it!

Assassins do exist, most are dumb f$&# drug addicts who need doped up, however the true assassins generally no one would ever know unless you were a million/billionaire with powerful friends.

Though I seriously doubt that it's anything like the movies.

Tyrion Lannister stole my pimp cup!

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Are there real assassins in real world?..I mean professional killers who live alone and hired to kill and stuff like in Hollywood movies?!


Thank you for opening this thread. You've dredged out some interesting posts.

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