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What a sad, empty life people are living!

posted 13 years ago by urena-2
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It is incredible to me that these societies of the West have become so self centered, so self absorbed, so... empty. Having it all, cars, houses, money, the best schools in the world, seemingly having it all, at the same time are so empty and everyone is in the same boat.

People go to these festivals and they applaud films that portray what everyone is going thru, but no one wonders if there is anything else in life.

These films portray people as if all they can do is live, die and that is it. In them they sell the idea that it is the norm to have an absolute existential vacuum. It seems as if life is devoided of meaning, of ultimate and greater purpose. Wow!

Indeed, this is a godless society, where there is not good, to bad, no wrong, no right... just relativism, convenience, survival of the fittest.

Where is purpose? Where is life after this one....?

Where is God?

It is sooooo sad!!

[–] cordesensibles 13 years ago

God?

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!

Everyone knows God is busy preparing another war.

Come on.

[–] Westeggerswagger 13 years ago

Wow. I can't even.
There is so much awesome with this post and so much awful too. ; )

[–] live4coffee 13 years ago

Although Graham was a clearly a complete fraud, he was still offering what you might call 'spiritual enlightenment'.

For people without faith, life can lack "meaning" - but that doesn't necessarily make you ungrateful or empty. By the same token, I've met people whose religion instils such guilt that their short time on this earth is made inordinately more difficult.

"The dead do not suffer the living to pass"
"You will suffer me"

[–] mmobini 13 years ago

Go live in Iran, I can assure you there is SO MUCH god there. see how long you last. I for one ran the hell out of there and enjoy every second of my life in the west.

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[–] paynejeremy 13 years ago

I rate "Submarine" as very good. However, urena's point is valid. Some have questioned urena: what's God got to do with it? That's exactly urena's point. God, or at least a spiritual reality deeper than that peddled by Graham, doesn't get a look in. The film might seem "neutral" to us in the 21st century West, but to another culture, past, present or future, its materialism would be all too obvious; so it reflects our culture well, which says more about our culture than about the film.

[–] bhikkhu 13 years ago

Where is God?

LOL!

Om Mani Padme Hum

[–] scottmc1971 13 years ago

I agree that religion is on the decline in the West. It has been for a long time. I also agree that Western society in general is, as you describe it, essentially Godless. However, given the amount of blood spilled in the name of 'God' over the centuries - not only between different faiths but between different denominations within the same faith - it's hard to see how the decline of religion is an issue to deplore.

As for my own opinions around the existence of God....well, I believe that Prof. Nick Bostrom's proposition that we're living in an ancestor simulation run by a post-human civilisation is just as valid (and a good deal more convincingly argued) as the assertions of Christ, Mohammed, Buddha, Vishnu or any other mystic.

Myself, I'm with Camus. I believe that life is essentially meaningless and "absurd". Again like Camus, I believe that it's nonetheless incumbent on us as human beings to live our lives well and to be good despite the certain knowledge that no eternal reward will be waiting for us at the end of it.

"That, - Captain Bligh, - that is the thing; - I am in hell, sir - I am in hell."

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