My favourite part of this series right from the beginning, has always been the growing relationship between George and John.How I see it; is in season 1 and part of 2 George is a mentor to John, he tries to steer him away from bad policing(racism,sexism and overt use of violence and force etc)towards good policing.
Season 3 and 4, I'd describe their relationship as almost father and son, there's a great deal of mutual trust and respect between them. From season 6 onwards I think they have become the most important person in the others life.
I think the chemistry between Martin and Lee is brilliant, one of the best pairings on TV at the moment.I can't wait for another season.
I'd go along with what you described. Mentor and apprentice. I saw the same relationship in Inspector Morse with Lewis, and with Inspector Lewis and his apprentice whose name escapes me.
Can only agree in the sense that all those series have a senior and junior detective. One is the dogsbody.
In Morse, Lewis to my mind is never openly disrespectful of class. colour or creed.
In Lewis we are treated a very intelligent Hatahaway who has more scruples than a GENUINE minister of GOD.
Baranaby has always had respectful sidekicks.
IN Gently we are treated to an aging policeman who is portrayed as not running with the pack. Do remember that we are in the time era of seriously corrupt policing when if they were not actively aiding criminals they were often feathering thier own [career prospect] nests by nickiing anyone who fits the crime or can be fitted to the crime.
Bacchus from the beginning has been born with so many character flaws not removed during any form of police training. He could hold his head up high carrying the National Front flag. Gently is slowly trying to educate him in what he feels is a correct way of policing and of being a human being.
Having just watched 26/08/2012 I see that the struggle will always be uphill. Here we have police sargent young enoung to mix with the youth who over a period of mentoring has learned so little. I do question how we are meant to understand promotion of the time. He is being shown to us as someone who might not even have had enough time to be considered as moving from uniform to the detective branch let alone becoming a Sargeant.
I do however enjoy period pieces and of course do feel I have just been smacked in the face when newish idioms are used. It is unfortunate that this happens but in order to entertain Joey from Essex who cannot tell the time yet some things are required. So in Downton Abbey we will shortly be greeted with a few SHUTUPS, OMGs,The thing is this,Basicaly,init,know what I mean,init,know what I mean,init,know what I mean,init,know what I mean,you know what I say, TOWIE.
I do like Michael Kitchins style as Doyle and of course in his other roles. He does not really have an ever present police sidekick.
The bachus character seems to resistant to the education from his mentor and has even disobeys obvious protocols. I am not faulting Inglebys acting abilites as they are very good.
BTW I am not sterotyping the police. The authors and program makers do enough of that for all of us.
If interested do seek out the 'RED RIDING' a trilogy of a few years ago 2009 with many British fairly big names taking even minor roles in the name of the art. A drawn out shocker of a story covering a lenghty period perhaps ten years or so.
Before I go on to comment on the thread must just say the Red Riding trilogy was fantastic, well worth watching. Re Gently and Bacchus, I find it hilarous sometimes. Trouble is I am currently watching the re-runs of The Professionals on ITV 4 and keep seeing Martin in his younger days when I watch this - just needs Bodie now!
Foyle does have a sidekick and her name is Sam (short for Samantha) who is his driver. He sits next to her and is driven up the wall with her constant chatter, occasional snoopy remarks, and sometimes, remarkable insight into a suspect's motives. Foyle has a moment of panic in which he reveals his true feelings about Sam as a treasured colleague when Sam's father comes to take her home. As a note, back during the forties fathers could do this sort of thing. And at the last moment, Sam's father sees the light and relents.
I thought it was much funnier when Bacchus was a mean jerk in the first seasons. Now he's just kind of a nice jerk... if you know what I mean. But in a way it's nice to see that the characters are developing. I don't know how to define their relationship, but I have to say know after watching the last episode in season 5 it's more like a friendship, but George is ofcourse still the mentor. But I agree, great chemistry.
At least he had the decency to redeem himself by saving Gently's life in the final episode "Gently In The Cathedral" after he conspired with corrupt cops to frame Gently.
"You're under arrest!" "He's under arrest, until I say he is."
I think you need to re-watch the episode. Bacchus wasn't conspiring against Gently -- he was acting the part, to do what he could to help Gently. Did you not catch that bit -- just before they headed to where the widow of the young policeman who was killed was staying?
Agree with MsWildhack: Although in the beginning of "Cathedral", there's ambiguity as to whether Bacchus is against Gently, it becomes clear that Bacchus was just pretending. Perhaps in the beginning, Bacchus had some doubt, but when the Met cop refused to allow Bacchus to check out that license plate number, Bacchus probably realized they were framing Gently.
Correct, he could see they were trying to frame Gently and went along with them to try and figure out which were the corrupt and non-corrupt cops. He tried to quietly let his wife know what he was doing but couldn't because it would blow his cover.
Gently is a mentor to Bacchus, and sometimes I think he is protective to a certain degree like a father would be to a son. I've seen their relationship grow during the series. Gently in the Cathedral is a prime example of their close relationship.
I last saw Gently 3 or 4 years ago, but I'm currently rewatching it. So far, just the first season, but I agree Gently is trying to be a mentor to Bacchus, who is obviously a bigot. The series reflects the time in which it takes place, the 1960s, and certainly things were different then. It's interesting to see how Gently is trying to root out corruption and bad police procedures at the same time he is mentoring Bacchus to rise above his bigotry and clean up his act.