I can't believe this film's rating. This movie comes off like a film student's attempt at recreating a mobster movie with no budget. Am I missing something that makes this film a miracle? Good actors, poor acting. The writing is lame, the special effects are horrible, and everything else about it screams "low budget"
share"Poorly acted"?
Talk about insulting.
A cast of this calibre? Dream on, sunshine.
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Why can't someone say it is poorly acted? I agree, but more to the point I think the lighting was terrible and the directing was sub-standard. Almost like the director just set up a shot and said "Go, act do whatever it is you do, i'm off to watch goodfellas and casino for 100th time to get some ideas".
There wasn't a moment of great acting in this, everyone just applauds Walken when he plays a gangster just like they appluad Eastwood when he plays a gun totting old git even if the movie is rubbish. There's a simple reason why Vinnies career never took off and that's because all he can do is play bad guys in guy Ritchie films (Note a good director can get a decent performance out of him). And well let's be honest, how long has it been since you can say the words "Val Kilmer" without the word "Suxs" behind it?
The script is woeful. The characters are all over the place, i means whats with his wife, does she hate him or love him, when an actor or director can't choose an emotion for their actor they come across emotionless, which I guess is ok if you're playing the terminator or a Keanu Reeves role.
Hey and heres a great idea, lets do a heap of annoying montage to show Dannys life progressing rather then making an effort to interlock it with the storyline. Arrgghh and what was with that Folk music everytime we zoomed into rays unhappy face for the Sergio Leonne close up minnus the great camera work, believable acting and lighting. I mean for fs the whole movie was lit like an episode of friends.
I guess I like a lot of people expected great things from Ray after Rome, but this film only proves he is not yet capable of holding a film together as a lead actor..still the bridesmaid at this point. But good luck to him, perhaps he will get a decent director next time.
ok jimmy i am calling you out
i want to know what you mean by bad lighting. i mean for real. i want to know. are you referring to low light? is low light automatically bad?
b/c i hear this crap all the time about movies but i never notice anything wrong. i think some of you guys split hairs, or get too technical rather than being into the story.
so what are you saying?
i have heard that hard shadows are a bad thing. then i see great movies done with, you guessed it, hard shadows.
3 point lighting bla bla bla. if i can see what is going on, it works for me. to me the only bad lighting would be if it was too dark to tell what was happening. backlighting annoys me sometimes.
but seriously i want to know what you mean here. i might side with you, but as of now i dont understand your complaint
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I'm with OP and Jimmy. I don't see how this movie was rated so highly. I'm guessing people are rating it based upon what they wanted it to be, not what it actually was. When I saw the ensemble cast in this movie I thought, 'this is gonna be awesome.' But after the first half hour or so, I wanted to turn it off. The acting was half-assed, the directing was amateurish, and the screenplay was forgettable. I will say that the 2nd half of the movie was considerably better than the 1st, but not enough to save this thing.
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I'm guessing people are rating it based upon what they wanted it to be, not what it actually was.
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Or they simply rate it based on how they feel after the movie is over?
Personally I liked this move, I liked the acting, I liked the story and I like the genre. Heck, even for Jimmy, I liked the lightning.
I had an enjoyable time while watching this movie, not a single dull moment, so please explain me why I would give it a low rating?
i means whats with his wife, does she hate him or love him, when an actor or director can't choose an emotion for their actor they come across emotionless,It would take more time than I want to spend on it to pick apart your whole post, so I'll just comment on what I quoted. There are far more complex and subtle dispositions than just a black and white "love or hate". The character is written in that more complex, subtle way, played well that way, and some viewers have no problem reading that.
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yeah yeah same *beep* every time. warning troll!
shareA surprisingly good movie. Very well acted, Ray Stevenson created a very interesting character.
The budget was low, nothing to do about that.
Over all a good little gangster flick.
Too little Christopher Walken, though! ;)
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"the special effects are horrible, and everything else about it screams "low budget""
GET OVER IT!
1.for special effects watch friggin Terminator, Matrix etc
2.so what if it's low budget? it doesn't take a huge budget to make a good movie. Hollywood junkie stereotype. People like you make me sick. At least think up a better argument against the movie!
A low budget is no excuse. According to your logic movies like Transformers are the best movies of all time.
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You're an idiot. I take that back- I wouldn't want to insult idiots by comparing them to you. Go buy a ticket to "Bad Teacher" and (hopefully) choke on your popcorn.
shareJust because he doesn't like a movie you like? How pathetic is that.
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OP is a truth teller.
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It's official, you don't know anything about film.
shareSuch thick irony.
"Worship me or I'll torture you forever"
-Your loving God.
Pardon?
shareI think it's silly to judge someone's taste after seeing their opinion of only one movie anyway, but I would say someone who doesn't like this film ''knows more about film'' than someone who does like this film.
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And that is because you are also incompetent. So you guys can party together and watch bad movies while people who enjoy good acting can watch this one.
Ray Stevenson and Vincent D'Onofrio are both amazing actors that have been successful in theater. D'Onofrio has been on Broadway.
To criticize the acting in this film is like criticizing Kobe's jumpshot.
Stay away. Go watch The Dead Zone if you want Christopher Walken. His career is over at this point, no film will center around him any more.
I know the actors, and yes, some of them are good. But not in this. The acting is stiff and the characters are all one dimensional.
Critics see this (50 metascore, 5.6 rottentomatoes rating). People who ''know film'' see this. You don't, because your opinion on movies is obviously *beep*. The end.
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-Your loving God.
No U.
shareEven the best of actors can act badly in films. But let us be fair here
even Walkens worst is better than average. Still where does it say you can't criticize. Of course you can. That is your right. Only keep in mind that with movies like this one it is not made for artistic value. Probably a money thing for most of them,maybe a project for a film student to hone his skills or a favour for a friend.
Did you just reply to my almost 3 month old post? Get a life.
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Even the best of critics can have guilty pleasures.
This discussion is pointless because you are both entitled to your opinion.
I agree. This film is horrible on all levels. Too bad, the original story could've made a good movie in the right hands.
shareI agree. Before I went to check this movie on here, I was expecting something like a 6 or 6.5.
I rented this movie because Christopher Walken is in it, but he got about 5 minutes of screen time. :I
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