To the those who keep denying it:
https://mobile.twitter.com/ProtectStelena/status/748234717762326528
Here's what the man himself had said.
I never nurtured any doubt about that. It was before Elena domesticated him.
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"Art is magic delivered from the lie of being truth"
Wow. Ian is seriously over this show if he's not sticking to the Williamson/Plec" ix-nay on the ape-ray" directive. Everyone usually tip toes around it.
Here's what the man himself had said.
Of course, Kevin and Julie would. How could they encourage Damon in the running for Elena if they aknowledged that Damon is a rapist? None of this would have happened if they didn't write that Damon/Caroline crap in S1 to begin with.
shareIt's funny hearing Ian Somerhalder say it, but it won't change anything. There will always be hardcore Damon fans who refuse to believe that Damon sexually abused Caroline, or any of the women he was with before Elena.
shareHaha lol, I bet the Twitter fans are going nuts
shareWow.....
My ass may be dumb, but I ain't no dumbass...
Didn't he also compell Andie?
shareYep
shareYep. And it was because he couldn't have Elena. So instead of moving on to someone else who was a consenting party, he instead chose to rape a woman for months. That truly sounds like the foundation of any healthy, loving, relationship. "I love you so much that your rejection drives me to rape and murder people."
True love, I tell ya. True love. Delena is Aces. #relationshipgoals etc.
If I remember correctly she had sex willingly too. She was all over him in Season one when she couldn't have Stefan she turned to Damon and was all over him then once she wasn't compliant he started th3 compulsion. I'll say it again, if I remember correctly, I haven't seen season one in a long time.
shareCaroline wanted Damon at first, but agreeing to have sex with someone once or twice or whatever doesn't entitle them to your body forever after. You are allowed to change your mind. You are allowed to say no. Caroline was crying as she tried to run away. That's as big a no as you can get.
shareI know and I wasn't saying that was the case.
shareI'm glad he finally admitted it, I still don't understand how anyone can watch those scenes and say he isn't a rapist.
shareHonestly, in the world we actually live in it would absolutely be rape and murder, underage drinking, teen sex, teenage drug use, etc. And what do you even call all the compulsion? It seems there are many a blind eye turned on any crime committed by a vampire.
However, this is Vampire Diaries and if you look at all the criminal things that happen on here and judge... well this show isn't for you! You have to look at it as totally a fantasy!
Most people know it's just fantasy but the man in reason it's argued is because Damon fans refuse to admit he actually DID rape Caroline.
shareMost people understand that this show is a fantasy show, but rape in a fantasy show is still rape. I think you can call it what it is and still appreciate the show.
shareJust wondering why people are stressing over Damon raping Caroline, but not stressing over Ripper Stefan's woman escapades, or all the murder that happens. To be honest, I do not understand why anyone takes sides Damon/Stefan. They both have their flaws.
shareI don't think IAN was taking Stefan's side when he made that statement. He was correcting the idiotic fangirls who've been justifying and internalising rape for the sake of pardoning a character that HE plays.
shareI think the issue is that no one is arguing what Stefan did or saying that what happened didn't happen. Most Damon fans, though, will go to the ends of the earth to justify or excuse what Damon to Caroline and Andie, and Vicki. Even the writers refuse to acknowledge this and it's a little disturbing.
shareI guess I just don't get that deep into it! I just enjoy the show and the chemistry between the characters. Maybe I'm too old for all the silliness! Lol
I'm actually a bigger fan of both Paul and Ian's off screen accomplishments and passions. I love how they both use their fairly famous platforms to do good for our planet and the creatures that inhabit it!
I thought Andie willingly slept with Damon without complusion. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
"I'd rather lose for what I am than win for what I ain't"
Kacey Musgraves "Pageant Material"
She probably slept with him at least once without compulsion because we see them sharing a bath together. But sleeping with someone once does not mean you've given the person a blank check on your body. When he starts telling her that he's a murderer, she is freaking out and wants to run and he compels her to be OK with it. Afterwards, he compels her to be "in love with him", to think he's her boyfriend, and be OK with him feeding on her. To show how much of a drone she becomes, she's in the house when Alaric stabs Elijah and she doesn't even bat an eyelash because Damon has compelled every sense of self-preservation from her.
shareCause as far as we know Ripper Stefan wasn't raping women but killing them, not saying that's right either, but, that's why there's no argument, Damon also raped Elena's best friend, the main love interest, who later he falls in love with and vice versa because of the "good" in him, even though he raped her best friend. It's just inexcusable how the show takes Elena and Caroline's back one from them in this case.
shareIt being a fantasy show does not mean murder is not murder and rape is not rape, though? One does not exclude the other?
1. TVD is a fantasy show;
2. Damon is one of the two male leads on TVD;
3. Damon raped Caroline.
Therefore, this is a fantasy show, where one of the two male leads is a rapist. No judgment, nothing to do with getting too into it, literally the objective facts. How exactly rape is portrayed within the narrative/in canon (in this case, erased, used to slut shame Caroline etc.), is more subjective and where judgment and the comparison to Stefan's actions would come in.