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Mixed reaction and a bit cliche.... Spoilers...

posted 13 years ago by tkip19
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Overall I liked the movie but it was a little cliche and definitely unrealistic. But what gets me is why Veronica, after just one night with Jessie is willing to build a life together regarding the baby?

It was one night.

This didn't make any sense. And what exactly was Celeste holding on to regarding Jessie? I get his motives for not initially moving on. He was hoping they'd get back together.

But her motive? She kept him in the studio for 6 months because....?

[–] calvincrack 13 years ago

you've gotta take some of that stuff on faith. but i agree that a lot of it was underdeveloped. i'd rather that the movie moved 20 percent slower, but got deeper into stuff like you mentioned. but as far as living in the studio for 6 months, celeste wasn't ready to completely let go. i see it as a metaphor for how he lives in the back of her house, like the back of her mind.

[–] tkip19 13 years ago

She must have been secretly holding out on hope that they could salvage something. Or else the divorce would erase all ties between them and this terrified her.....

[–] leader (2102) 6 years ago

bingo.

[–] tudazwoman-0-357444 13 years ago

I have to agree with you. The pacing was off, I.e., I kept thinking the movie was going to end. The scenes were too short. And I left thinking, "WTF?" when I wanted so much to enjoy this film. I disagreed with a previous posting in that I thought the chapters were well represented by the actors. Just thought the direction could have been better.

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[–] onerichard 12 years ago

the pregnant woman is from Belgium, and needs to be married in order to stay in the US. That's why Jessie is pushing for Celeste to sign divorce papers

[–] sue-534 12 years ago

Right but Jesse cares because he loves her. (so he says)
I found most of the movie forced and didn't find chemistry between Celeste and Jesse, they were great as friends though.
I also didn't see why Veronica didn't tell Jesse she was pregnant or tell him she needed to talk to him at the book store. By then she was nearly 3 months pregnant.
And the two weeks later Jesse is marrying her, and in love?

A bit too sketchy for me.

But I liked the movie overall and some of the lines in made it worth the watch, particularly the right/happy question.
Also loved the remark about why a cat lady can't buy nice things to wear and the question about the Obamas.

Clever writing, great acting by Rashida.

"the only way through it is through it " -Jackson Browne

[–] ericjstacey 12 years ago

I thought the last third of the movie dragged a little, but I did like the ending very much-I thought it would go with some Hollywood ending of a). Veronica telling Jesse the baby was not his, and Jesse going back to Celeste b) Celeste marrying the yoga guy, with Veronica and Jesse attending the wedding, and they all become best friends. I'm glad they didn't feel the need to have Celeste find the new right guy right away-it was left with her still searching for answers, like most divorced/broken up people do.

[–] sue-534 12 years ago

I'm glad they didn't feel the need to have Celeste find the new right guy right away-it was left with her still searching for answers, like most divorced/broken up people do.

Absolutely agree!

Though I got the idea from the movie that Celeste was going to be just fine and that the new guy was going to be quite nice for her.

Jesse is the one who seemed less happy and would be weighed down with so much responsibility when with Celeste, as she said, he didn't even have a checking account. A child will be a rude awakening for him, to say the least.

"the only way through it is through it " -Jackson Browne

[–] ericjstacey 12 years ago

Celeste will be fine-it seemed like as a couple, especially Celeste, there were too many bottled up emotions-I think Celeste was dealing with them as anyone else would-Jesse was basically engaged, having a baby, and still showing up to cuddle with his ex?? I just think it's odd going into a new relationship thinking "I can make it work"-not having a checking account, ect.-it seemed like she may have ended in a wife/mother role waiting for him to grow up.

[–] mr_bickle_the_pickle 12 years ago

I also didn't see why Veronica didn't tell Jesse she was pregnant or tell him she needed to talk to him at the book store.

Cause maybe that would have been inappropriate to blurt that out in front of everyone?

She obviously waited to tell him more privately.

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[–] LeftbLane 12 years ago

The movie was definitely not cliche and unrealistic.

People get pregnant after one night stands all the time. Add in the fact that Veronica needed residency and their attempt to build a life together was completely plausible.

Celeste loved Jesse. She kept hoping he would grow up and be completely the man she needed him to be hence her motives for holding on. It's tough to move forward when you love someone like that. They were life long friends and had been together romantically for years. You don't quickly move on from this.

[–] Mystic270 12 years ago

^^^ 100% with LeftbLane's remarks are the motivations and reasoning behind the character's actions.

Hours later, this movie is still in my mind. While watching it, I'm not sure if I was thinking that it was the best ever, but the fact that I'm still thinking about it means something...

I just really felt for them. I thought their "romantic" scenes together were touching (in a sad way, of course). They loved each other and couldn't let go, but a lot of "what might have been." It just wasn't in the cards.

[–] iseemoviepeople 12 years ago

It was a little cliche, and some unclear motives. But the "Biggie Smalls" line had me in stitches! AHAHAHAHA

[–] ovorc 12 years ago

I know this is old, but I'll bump it... Just some male perspective on the Jesse and Veronica situation. I know I would give it a really honest effort to make it work with the mother of my child, even if it was an accident. And remember, he did like her. He just didn't call, because he was hung up on Celeste and thought he could get back with her. So, it's not that there was nothing there, the timing was just off initially. Also, C & J's friends had nice things to say about Veronica, she was supported supportive of Jesse's career and of his potential ability to be a father, and she was very attractive to boot. Many indicators that it may be easy to fall in love with her.

[–] uhrdavid 12 years ago

Also, it can't be understated, the fact that she didn't have a green card. It's one thing that she might/would have been deported, but the fact that if that happened, then his baby would have went with her back to Belgium would have made me strongly consider doing whatever it took to make sure that didn't happen, even so far as to try to make a marriage evolve from what was likely just a one-night stand. Like you said, she had good credentials, from being successful, supportive and good looking, to having a sexy accent and being elegantly simple. I'm not saying that it's what everyone would have done, but given the typical mold of the artist mentality, prone to sometimes making impromptu decisions based on your emotions, added to the fact that he might have seen this as an opportunity to finally grow up and become a man, I don't think that it's unreasonable for him to have taken these steps at all.

[–] Nanrad 10 years ago

I just don't get that: only dating/marrying because you have a child together. People do build lasting relationships out of that, but then there's the flipped where people resent one another and, sometimes, the child for being together for the sake of the child. I think having a united front as parents is way more important than signing a piece of paper. I do believe in marriage/relationships, but not if you are going in it for reasons that have nothing to go with the person you a tying yourself to.

She's attractive and they had a connection, but I don't think there were any indication post baby announcement that they were in love. Jesse only tried to grow up because he was going to be a father. Celeste supported him for years, until he couldn't. Jesse just happened to be lucky that Veronica knew someone who owned a gallery and liked his work. Earlier in the movie, Celeste asked him about an assignment he told her he would do and he blew it off--she wasn't even nagging. The problem was Celeste enabled him, Jesse allowed that to happen, and they took each other for granted.

"And even with Will dead, the love triangle is not over."

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