The planes and their passengers


The movie's arguments were very convincing and I seriously doubt any plane ever crashed on the Pentagon or in Pennsylvania. However, while the theory rings true, two ACTUAL planes DID disappear along with their passengers! What happened to them, then?

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The government diverted them to the Bermuda Triangle where they were abducted

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The movie's arguments were very convincing

two ACTUAL planes DID disappear along with their passengers! What happened to them, then?


So you think a 'documentary' that can't explain where two planes and their passengers disappeared to has "very convincing" arguments??

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Maybe I mispoke when I said " convincing"; but these arguments are very troubling to say the least; On the other hand, the documentary doesn't explain the fact that , as I said before, two actual planes did disappear. One of the versions of this movie states that flight 93 landed incognito on a military base and its passengers unloaded discretely. That doesn't make sense! Where would they be now?

what I see are two illogical situations. When looking at both sites; I very much doubt that two planes crashed there; but these planes and passengers did vanish.


The conclusion I came to when I finished seeing the movie was the same as the juror's at the end of the JFK movie." They convinced me that there was a conspiracy; but they didn't convinced me that he ( the accused) was guilty."
I am convinced that the official story about 9/11 is highly suspect, to say the least, and that all the truth has not yet been told to the public. but I demand more evidence to back the claim that it was an inside job. All Bush and Cheney had to do to accomplish their agenda was to LET IT HAPPEN.

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People have been saying for years that a plane did not hit the Pentagon, that a missile or a drone did. Drones resemble planes by the way.

Now, let's say a drone did (or a missile. Have your pick). This means that flight that hit the Pentagon couldn't have.

So where did it go?

The likeliest explanation is that it was covertly shot down.

Here is my question:

Are there any records and/or recordings of emergency telephone calls made from the passengers on the plane that supposedly hit the Pentagon?

(Some people don't even consider phone calls evidence at this point, but I'm just curious if there is any record at all of that.)



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Ted Olson said his wife Barbara called him from the plane after it was hijacked.

But we can't believe him, since he worked for the Gubmint.



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thanks stanley, for the heads up. But I was looking for more than just some proof of phonecalls. What I am really looking for is when the phonecall was made from Barbara.

You see, if she called right before impact, then we'd know that her flight hit the Pentagon. If she called way before the Pentagon was in sight or reach, then we have no proof her plane in fact hit the Pentagon.



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No, you're just an idiot.


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Actually stan, no I'm not. I looked into the Barbara Olson issue.

You see, some truthers say that according to phone records, the woman never actually called her husband. They cite things like the altitude of the plane being too high and the cell phone technology being too elementary to successfully make such calls. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle though.

It's possible she did successfully call her husband...by first dialing an operator to connect her. A computer paper trail glitch would possibly explain how such a call would be listed as "0 seconds" and "unconnected".

During the last conversation with her husband before it was disconnected, her husband told her about the World Trade Center being hit. She mentioned nothing about seeing the Pentagon nearby. I doubt she mentioned she was even over Washington DC. She apparently had no idea the plane was going to be used as a torpedo.

Maybe it wasn't used as a torpedo. Maybe it was shot down.




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She apparently had no idea the plane was going to be used as a torpedo

What ship do you think the target was?


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What ship do you think the target was?
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If you were trying to lose me....you succeeded. I simply don't follow you. What do you mean?

You talked about a theory where the plane was used as a torpedo and torpedos are generally used to sink ships. Obviously no ships were sunk on 9/11 so i'm just wondering which ship you think the target was that they missed?

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Well you know the answer. Building 7 was obviously supposed to be hit by a plane, but whichever plane it was was obviously intercepted or diverted somehow.

I know I know, people go on and on about the Enron investigation notes WTC7 housed and other reasons the building was a target. I have a much simpler explanation for why WTC7 had to go...

It was a command center.

If it was left standing and habitable, the oversight of the WTC attacks would have probably been controlled from that building. That building probably also had all of the security cameras that would allow the public and authorities to view and study the WTC attacks up close forensically. Those tapes would allow everyone to better see things like all of the concrete that was blowing out of the towers horizontally in pyroclastic jets tens of stories down beneath the collapse waves. Yeah, that building had to be knocked out so that the criminal clean up of a crime scene could take place without WTC7 government workers invoking their jurisdiction over the clean up site. All the steel shipped to China overnight. No chance hardly for even engineers to study the collapse itself so that they could perfect the art of architecture.

Just a theory.



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The plane descended in altitude, therefore the normal cruising altitude argument is a moot point. She called from an airphone, not a cell phone. There were several attempted calls, all collect. As far as not seeing the Pentagon, she wasnt in the cockpit and wouldnt be able to see in front of the plane. It sounds like she finally got a hold of Ted just shortly before the crash at the Pentagon.

This is all pretty easy to find, if you'd make the effort yourself.


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You see, some truthers say that according to phone records, the woman never actually called her husband.


That's because, ironically, truthers are liars. According to phone records presented at the Moussai trial Barbara Olson called Ted three times. the reason for the confusion is that the number called came up as unregistered (hardly surprising considering where Ted works)- because of this the FBI contacted the relatives of all the passengers on the planes - none of them report recieving calls that much up with the unregistered numbers - except for Ted Olson.

"They cite things like the altitude of the plane being too high and the cell phone technology being too elementary to successfully make such calls"

they would say this - because they are liars. The calls were not made from a cell phone - they were made from seat back phones which were perfectly capable of making such calls.

"She mentioned nothing about seeing the Pentagon nearby"
Why would she? Can you look out of a plane window and instantly recognise where you are? Olson made her call when they were still around 25 miles away from the Pentagon so its hardly surprising she didn't see it.

The later cuts of Loose Change removed the claims about a missile hitting the Pentagon - this is because even they realised they couldn't support this claim - in fact Dylan Avery (the guy who made Loose Change) no longer even believes that the Govt created 9/11.

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No Plane hit the Pentagon though, that much is obvious despite all the other arguments about the towers and building 7 the evidence regarding the Pentagon is solid in my eyes.

To me that means they landed that plane as well as plane 93 and killed all the crew and passengers. Otherwise where the hell are they?

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Hahahaha I've used a cell phone at max altitude back before 9/11 you gotta be kidding me. Second are you dumb or blind? Very clearly you see two planes fly into the World Trade Center buildings. Last a friend who was working at the pentagon who got a first hand look at the damage clearly identified the wreckage for me. So while the rest of the chumps are walking with their penises in hand I can live on knowing the truth of reality.

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@nerhl1-- I agree with you totally. You have to question the sanity of people that see two planes fly into two separate buildings and say to themselves, "That is so not whats going on."

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It's really amazing isn't it? That torpedo hit the Pentagon, but yet ALL those people on the freeway saw an Airplane, and even creepier many of them named American Airlines as the plane. I mean how dare those people that were there, see something different than people like you who weren't there.

That's your argument in a nutshell. Feeling a bit nutty yet?

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Didn't lamp posts also get knocked over by AA 77 on its way into the Pentagon? If it was a torpedo or missile, it would certainly have not done that.

Still, trying to aim a Boeing 757 into something so low in height at 400-600 miles per hour is almost impossible.

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The plane hit the ground next to the Pentagon and crashed into it. How is this hard? That is one huge building. Ever heard of the sharpshooter fallacy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_sharpshooter_fallacy

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