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I SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING

posted 15 years ago by meldrone
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YOU WANT US TO THINK THAT THE REAL INTELLIGENCE WORK IS DONE BY RUMPLED AND TORTURED GENIUSES WHO LIVE IN SOME DUMP IN THE ASS END OF MANHATTAN. YOU THINK THAT IF YOU JAM XFILES' INCOHERENCE AND LOST'S DISHONESTY INTO ONE JUMBO PACKAGE, THEN YOU CAN STAY ON THE BASIC CABLE AIR UNTIL 2019, BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS DYING TO KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YOU THINK THAT THE GUY WITH THE FUNNY HAIR FROM PACIFIC IS A COMPELLING PROTAGONIST, RATHER THAN SOMEBODY COMING DOWN FROM HIS FIRST NITROUS OXIDE BENDER. YOU WOULD HAVE US BELIEVE THAT 4 LEAF CLOVERS CARRY MORE SIGNIFICANCE THAN ANY STUPID TRICK FROM A DAN BROWN NOVEL.

JUST BECAUSE THE FIRST GUY YOU FIRED COULDN'T GET BEYOND THE IDIOTIC CONCEIT THAT CROSSWORD PUZZLE COMPOSERS ARE GANGING UP ON US DOESN'T MEAN THE SECOND GUY IS ANY BETTER. EVERYBODY KNOWS THE FOURTH BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT IS THE INTERSTATE COMMERCE COMMISSION.

WILL YOU PLEASE GIVE IT A REST.

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[–] meldrone 15 years ago

AND THEY STILL HAVEN'T INTERVIEWED ANY CROSSWORD COMPOSERS. UNLESS IT'S "SECRET".
TOO BUSY BLOWING UP INDONESIAN SCHOOL CHILDREN IS MY CONCLUSION. NO, I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK OF MY TIE. DO YOU THINK THE 'SUICIDE' INVESTIGATORS LISTENED TO THOSE IRRITATING PHONE CALLS? HOW COME THERE WEREN'T ANY PEOPLE IN THAT CHINESE 'RESTAURANT'? YOU PAY MANHATTAN RENTS LIKE THAT? AND THEY DIDN'T ASK HOW MANY PANCAKES SHE WANTED WITH THE MU-SHU? NOW YOU'VE GONE WAY, WAY TOO FAR.

[–] CreamOfTheColada 15 years ago

lol you have to admit- OP is on the money

[–] tealismyname 15 years ago

This is the one instance where i actually appreciate the all capslock! Anyways, you raise a lot of very valid points. If this show is supposed to be smart why is it being so dumb!

Anyways, I like that you kind of create chapter breaks with your caplocks rants.

[–] meldrone 15 years ago

THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THIS 'SENIOR INTELLIGENCE ANALYST' HAS HIT THE BRICKS AND TRIED TO BE SAM SPADE. TOBY ESTERHASE, WHETHER EFFECTING THE ACCENT OR NOT, WOULD HAVE TOLD HIM VIGOROUSLY THIS WAS LACE CURTAIN WORK, 12-14 MINIMUM, TURN 'EM OVER. SINCE HE GOT BEAT UP THE FIRST TIME, IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE HE WOULD FLY SOLO AGAIN. STILL WITH THE CROSSWORD PUZZLES, STILL WITH THE REFUSAL TO INTERVIEW CROSSWORD COMPOSERS. STINKS WORSE THAN CAT SKAT. IF YOU THINK YOUR INTELLIGENCE HONCHO IS UP TO SOMETHING, YOU GO TO YOUR DESIGNATED CONFESSOR. ELEMENTARY TRADECRAFT, WHICH PREVENTS DRIFT. NO, YOU DON'T STAND IN THE DOORWAY WHEN EAVESDROPPING ON THE GUY UPSTAIRS.

THE RUBBLE IS PILING UP AROUND US.

[–] Degree7 15 years ago

* Four leaf clovers have appeared in two miss it or you blink scenes

* Ed Bancroft already admitted to writing the code for the crossword puzzles

* The reason he is not investigating any crossword composers to see who put out the clues is because it would lead to dead ends. Will already has the names that David gave him. It is possible David knows who put out the codes in the paper, and that they are connected to the 1983 events

* The Interstate Commerce Commission disbanded in 1995, although I can see you were probably going for a joke (a pretty funny one too)

* It is unknown whether Tom worked in intelligence. It's obvious Spangler cannot be trusted, and yet Travers doesn't know it. He only has an inkling

* If Travers was supposed to know he would be monitored, would that not defeat the purpose of being monitored?

* What would be the point of Travers going to a 'confessor' if the entire API department is corrupt?

Nice post though, you bring up valid points and you're funny.

Well, I hope we're not too messianic
Or a trifle too satanic
We love to play the blues

[–] meldrone 14 years ago

ED BANCROFT WORKS FOR ALL THE HIGH END NEWSPAPERS? OUT OF THAT DUMP IN QUEENS?
YOUR CONFESSOR/SAFETY VALVE IS TYPICALLY IN A LATERAL DEPARTMENT. BUT TY.

[–] Degree7 14 years ago

From what I gathered, Ed Bancroft worked for a department similar to the API. His bosses told him to write a form of code that could be incorporated into the crossword section of a newspaper.

So his bosses took that code and used it for whatever reasons they have, something to do with foreign policy and intelligence, etc. They inserted the code into all the international newspapers, probably through contacts in each paper.

But that was 30 years ago. Now, I'm sure someone put out a code in the crossword when they weren't supposed to. Someone putting out a warning for anyone who might recognize it.

That's my assessment.

As for a confessor, it would have been better if the show put in some kind of arm-chair dude with his legal pad for Travers to talk to, or maybe the API does not possess any lateral departments and has no policy on safety valve/confessor.

Well, I hope we're not too messianic
Or a trifle too satanic
We love to play the blues

[–] meldrone 14 years ago

GETTING WORSER BY THE POUND. WE JUST SAW A MANAGER OF A HIGH-LEVEL INTELLIGENCE WARREN NOD HIS HEAD LIKE A RETARD WHEN IT WAS EXPLAINED TO HIM THAT AQ IS ASYMMETRICAL AND BASED ON CULTURAL IDENTITY, RATHER THAN BUYING MILITARY HARDWARE. WE JUST SAW A MID-LEVEL MANAGER GET ALL NERVOUS BREAKDOWNY WHEN HE WAS TOLD HE WAS BEING MONITORED. THESE GUYS ARE TOLD ON DAY ONE THEY WILL BE SURVEILLED AND POLYGRAPHED AT RANDOM TIMES. THEY KNOW IT REFLEXIVELY, UNLESS THEY'RE IN THIS CRUMMY SHOW. WE GOT TO SEE MILES RUN AROUND LIKE THE PLACE WAS ON FIRE, BECAUSE AFTER ALL, HE WASN'T GOING TO HAVE A SOUND RECORDING OF THE GLORIOUS FESTIVITIES.

IS THIS AFFIRMATIVE ACTION? IS THERE A SECRET FEDERAL STATUTE THAT REQUIRES AMC TO HAVE A SHOW FOR THE STUPID? WHY WOULD THE ONE WIDOW BREAK OFF HER CONTACT WITH THE OTHER WIDOW IN MID-SENTENCE? AND NOW A THIRD INCIDENT OF PFC LECKIE GOING STREET CRIME FOR US. IS THIS THING GOING TO BE ON NEXT WEEK?

[–] Love_spreads 14 years ago

Well if it is going to be on next week, we all know you meldrone, will be tuning in. You just called it a crummy show and yet you continue to watch week after week. I'm sure AMC would thank you for your support.

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[–] ragreen259 14 years ago

Seek help, mel.

[–] meldrone 14 years ago

I DON'T NEED ANY. I KNOW THAT IF THE FBI PROCLAIMS "LOCKDOWN", THEY WOULDN'T ABANDON THE TOP FLOOR AND LET PFC LECKIE RUMMAGE AROUND. THESE IMBECILES CAN'T DO ANY BETTER THAN THAT?

I KNOW THAT POLYGRAPH TECHS IMMEDIATELY ASK IF THERE IS A COLLATERAL REASON THE SUBJECT IS EMOTIONALLY DISTRAUGHT, AND THEN TRY TO REMEDY THAT REASON WHEN IT OCCURS. GRANT WOULD KNOW THAT FROM HIS PRIOR TRAINING. MILES WOULD KNOW THAT HE SIMPLY STARTS OUT BY TELLING THE TECH ABOUT HIS MISPLACED ITEM. REASONABLE WRITERS WOULD KNOW THAT YOU DON'T DEVOTE 4 MINUTES TO HAVING LECKIE LOOK AT THAT DAMN OWL.

THE FBI WOULD KNOW THAT IF SEC MATERIAL IS BEING LEAKED, YOU TRACE THE SEC INPUT INTO THE BUILDING, AND THAT YOU DON'T TERRORIZE THE PEOPLE WORKING ON SYRIAN WEDDING CATERING. FULL COURT PRESS SECURITY METHODS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL, NOT SHOWN TO EVERY POSSIBLE JANITOR AND NEW HIRE.

IS THIS TURKEY CANCELLED YET? WE NEED A LOCKDOWN TO FIND THE AMC BRIBE TAKER.

[–] Love_spreads 14 years ago

It will get cancelled when people who hate it (like yourself) stop watching.

[–] meldrone 14 years ago

DID THAT HOMOSEXUAL MANAGER REALLY SAY "CAN YOU PROVE IT"? THIS ATLAS-MCD THING IS OBVIOUSLY THE CARLYLE GROUP. YOU CAN LOOK AT WIKIPEDIA AND SEE THE JAMES BAKER/MULTIPLE BUSHES/CORPORATE CEOS ETC THAT ARE SUCKING THAT BLOOD MONEY. MOST PROPELLER HEAD CHAT BOARDS HAVE A SECTION OF THE CARLYLE GROUP, YET WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THE RENAME IS SOME SORT OF SECRET? PFC LECKIE HAD TO STEAL A PHONE STRIP TO FIND OUT ABOUT ALL THOSE SENATORS AND GENERALS? AND YES, THE CARLYLE GROUP DOES SEEK TO PROFIT FROM NIGERIAN DEATH AND JORDANIAN TORTURERS. THIS 'SECRET' HAS BEEN PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE FOR YEARS.

I'LL BE RIGHT BACK. MY THERMOSTAT IS MAKING A NOISE.