A 67.3% Drop Makes Suicide Squad The Third Largest Superhero Film Drop
Behind BVS and Fantastic Four 2015.
It made it below 65. Yikes.
There's an indicator of the Word Of Mouth right there.
Behind BVS and Fantastic Four 2015.
It made it below 65. Yikes.
There's an indicator of the Word Of Mouth right there.
Considering that Sausage Party and Pete's Dragon both came out the same week, this is actually pretty good for Suicide Squad. Especially considering the general audience weren't very familiar with the characters. Where as BvS, it had the two most iconic superheroes of all time together for the first time on film, and there was nothing going against it in it's first few weeks. Yet BvS had a bigger drop than Suicide Squad on it's second weekend. Let that sink in for a minute.
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And yet, it made $465.4 million in just two weeks.
shareBecause it was frontloaded like BVS, with heavy marketing and a massive wide release.
It doesn't speak for the quality of the film.
So was Ghostbusters, and look how that turned out.
shareInternationally, Civil War opened in Italy yesterday, grossing an estimated $1.2 million, just 5% behind the opening day for Avengers: Age of Ultron as its international cume now totals $261.6 million after eight days in release. The film opens in Russia and Argentina today and China tomorrow. We won't be able to draw direct comparisons to Ultron's opening in China as it debuted on a Monday, and brought in over $155 million for its first week in release before bringing in over $240 million for its complete run.
With a $179.1 million opening weekend, Civil War not only scored the fifth largest opening of all-time, it is the third largest opening for a film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU). In fact, compared to the other standalone franchises in the MCU, the Captain America franchise continues to show the greatest film-over-film growth as Civil War's opening is a 91.3% increase over the opening for Captain America: The Winter Soldier.
Of course, heading into the weekend, expectations were undoubtedly high as Civil War looked as if it may be able to become only the fourth film to top $200 million in its first three days. The film's reported, $250 million budget is on par with the budget for Avengers: Age of Ultron and, given the film's sheer size and scope, Civil War plays much more like an Avengers film than your typical Marvel, standalone character feature. Added to that, Civil War saw great reviews heading into the weekend (91% on RottenTomatoes), record Fandango pre-sales for a superhero film, more premium ticket options and 3-D theaters than Ultron and the premiere of two new superheroes. Yet, don't for a second think of the film's opening as a disappointment.
Civil War scored an "A" CinemaScore, and solid holds over its first three days in release suggest a stellar domestic run is in the offing. Should it play out on par with the likes of The Winter Soldier it will end up around $290 million domestically by next Sunday and could surpass $425 million overall depending on how it holds on once X-Men: Apocalypse hits theaters on May 20.
Globally the film's total is now up to $673.1 million after launching internationally last weekend and bringing in a $217 million from overseas markets this weekend. In fact, with $494 million internationally after just two weeks, it has already surpassed the lifetime international cumes of Captain America ($194M), Iron Man ($267M), Thor ($268M), Iron Man 2 ($312M), Ant-Man ($339M), Thor: The Dark World ($438M), Guardians of the Galaxy ($440M) and Captain America: The Winter Soldier ($455M).
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GOTG also suffered a massive drop as well. What's your point?
shareGOTG also suffered a massive drop as well. What's your point?
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And yet, SS was still able to make more on it's second weekend than GOTG did.
shareBarely, and because it opened much bigger.
Guardians was holding it's own.
SS is sinking fast with these percentages.
All you're proving is that people actually rushed to go see SS more than GOTG in the first few weeks.
shareAll you're proving is that people actually rushed to go see SS more than GOTG in the first few weeks.
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Batman and Flash weren't even advertised. There was still people asking if this was connected to BvS. As for The Joker and Harley Quinn, this is an entirely different Joker in a non-Batman movie, and the general audience aren't as familiar with Harley Quinn as we are. Yeah, she's a very popular character, but non-comic book readers aren't going to rush out and see it for Harley Quinn. This is her first time in a live-action film, so she doesn't have that exposer yet.
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Batman featured in the trailers, and while HQ featured heavily in he Arkham games. Considering that video games are the most popular form of entertainment today, I would say that HQ was more well known than you think she is
shareWhy do you keep repeating this?
You know SS opened 40 million higher. Don't you?
Instead of just waiting for their turn to speak.
- Marla
What are you talking about?
shareWhat are you talking about?
The fact that you've said this:
And yet, SS was still able to make more on it's second weekend than GOTG did.
Instead of just waiting for their turn to speak.share
- Marla
Guardians was also a movie based on a comic practically no one had ever heard of. SS did trailers heavy on the joker and Harley because they knew those were the only important characters that anyone really recognized or cared about. I had never planned to see GOTG until some of my friends convinced me and I was very surprised. I saw SS this past Friday and both me and my wife wanted our $18 back.
shareAnd yet, SS was still able to make more on it's second weekend than GOTG did.
shareSo a film starring A lister Will Smith and Sex symbol Margot Robbie and who has the most iconic villain of all time marketed heavy in the trailers while not having a lot of time in the film, besides batman(the most pop super hero in the film) being marketed in the trailers too... had a bigger opening than a film starring the chubby guy from prac and rec,a wrestling superstar, an actress who only geek sci fi guys can notice who she is with all the weird makeup in the films she has... ohhh and bradley cooper and vin diesel whom the majority of the general audience didnt know they were there because of you know cgi racoon and big hulking tree...It just proves our point that the quality of Gotg is the biggest difference in dropping less than SS in the 2nd week...Now things shall be very different for Gotg2...
Batman V Superman is Kubrickesque-Grace Randolph(2016)
That is not the only point he makes
shareSP and PD weren't considered competition at all.
Until SP beat SS on Friday.
And while it's true that BvS should have done better than SS, you can hardly say the audience isn't very familiar with the characters. Everyone knows who the Joker is, and of course the trailers featured almost every second he was on screen.
That's a big reason why it had a large OW, and now a steep drop off.
Warner are great at marketing and using well known properties to boost the take, but terrible at delivering great films that the audience recommends.
Instead of just waiting for their turn to speak.
- Marla
Joker was all over the marketing.
shareConsidering that Sausage Party and Pete's Dragon both came out the same week, this is actually pretty good for Suicide Squad.
Another hypocrite. It also up against olympics and still its on top at the boxoffice 2nd week straight only a hypocritical troll would say thats bad
shareAnother hypocrite. It also up against olympics and still its on top at the boxoffice 2nd week straight only a hypocritical troll would say thats bad
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for a non kiddie film? good news
shareWhile the movie will likely make a profit, the steep weekend-to-weekend drop is a bad sign. A movie being very front-loaded means that most of its performance comes from hype and pre-release marketing, not from actual audience enjoyment and word of mouth. It doesn't bode well for future movies.
I can calculate the motion of heavenly bodies, but not the madness of people.
It doesn't bode well for future movies.
OP is an idiot... Percentage drop is irrelevant without the corresponding salient statistics, especially given Suicide Squad's opening weekend was a record-breaking box office amount of over $133 MILLION domestically! The fact of the matter is Suicide Squad's second weekend has the movie STILL at NUMBER ONE in the Box Office, with a very healthy near $44 million domestically and a whopping $465,374,728 total within just TEN DAYS... So like I said, OP in an IDIOT
shareSee, percentage drops is how you measure trends, not absolute numbers.
The trend for SS is down, very quickly. That's why the comparison to GotG wasn't a smart move from the DCEU fanboys - GotG is a movie that had great holds. Starting Monday, we're most likely going to see the current gap in take between the two, start to dwindle - fairly rapidly.
Quidquid Latinae dictum sit, altum viditur.
Thrend went from smoking gotg down to slightly beqting them everyday.
Post this crap when numbera axtually fall below gotg's.
Also a trend would be everyday for the past weekm the only large percentage drop was from opening night rwat of tue nimbers are consistant and higher than gotg.
So there is no "trend" so far. Only a anonmoly which can be explain by the excellent late advertising and the faxt that dc character are beloved.
Post this crap when numbera axtually fall below gotg's.
You need to go back to school and learn MATHEMATICAL STATISTICS... Percentages by themselves are utterly meaningless... FACT. Goodbye. The End.
I'll leave this for you to ponder... 99% drop in box office takings for 'MOVIE A' from 1st weekend as compared with 2nd weekend... What does that tell you? Absolutely NOTHING is what that tells you... Because you don't have sufficient information for that to be anything other than MEANINGLESS... Now add to that the following information, namely that the 1st weekend box office takings for 'MOVIE A' were $500,000,000,000 = $500 BILLION, which means that 99% drop in box office takings for 'MOVIE A' from 1st weekend as compared with 2nd weekend the 2nd weekend takings for 'MOVIE A' = $5 BILLION... Which would by no means be even remotely poor box office performance despite the drop being 99%... Similarly circa $44 million weekend for Suicide Squad is not bad at all and the high percentage drop is only because it had a record-breakingly-massive opening weekend box office performance... Capiche?
99% drop in box office takings for 'MOVIE A' from 1st weekend as compared with 2nd weekend... What does that tell you? Absolutely NOTHING is what that tells you...
In short NO NO NO... You are only further demonstrating your ignorance regarding how and how not to process data with respect to statistics... And your clearly don't understand how PROBABILITY works either... So don't use words like PROBABILITY without knowing how they function or are appicable with respect to mathematical statistics... I have given you an irrefutable by definition example of how singular percentage change is meaningless by itself and yet you have attempted to argue against it, which says it all really... in short, NO a singular 99% drop as per my example is NEITHER indicative of any TREND, NOR is it indicative of any PROBABILITY whatsoever, without further salient data... Here's a lesson in how PROBABILITY actually works... If, as per my example, MOVIE A were to have an opening weekend box office takings in the order of $500 BILLION then because this amount is so massively STATISTICALLY greater than the historical AVERAGE then the PROBABILITY will be exceptionally high that there will be a high comparative drop with the 2nd weekend box office takings, but where at the same time the box office performance is nothing other than excellent. As is precisely the situation with Suicide Squad whose box office performance, with record-breaking opening weekend of over $134 and second weekend of over $44 with total Worldwide over $465 milliom in just 10 days is very good box office performance indeed, and in fact towards the upper end of the movie box office STATISTICAL STANDARD DEVIATION and VARIANCE.
You clearly don't even know what mathematical PROBABILITY means, or TRENDS, or VARIANCE etc... Nor how to apply these to real world situations... Back to school for you! Oh God, why am I even bothering writing this because it's clear any such explanation is completely wasted on you... sheez!
in short, NO a singular 99% drop as per my example is NEITHER indicative of any TREND
Percentage drop is irrelevant without the corresponding salient statistics, especially given Suicide Squad's opening weekend was a record-breaking box office amount of over $133 MILLION domestically!
FYI Percentage drops by themselves are both IRRELEVANT and MEANINGLESS
Suicide Squad has indeed experienced an extraordinarily (by definition) large drop, but that's because of it's massive record-breaking opening weekend, and it's concomitant with with excellent box office performance; which includes:
(1) Breaking the world record for opening weekend for August by a whopping $40 MILLION as compared with the previous record-holder, namely Guardians Of The Galaxy
(2) Being 1st place in the box office for BOTH first and second weekends, with the latter being over $44 Million domestically; which, most movies do not even achieve with respect to their OPENING/1ST weekend!
(3) Totalling over $465 MILLION in just 10 days!
So all of you naysayers stick that in your pipe and smoke it!
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(3) Totalling over $465 MILLION in just 10 days!
100% Incorrect. Foreign markets start opening 2 days before the domestic market dumbass.
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Well as it happens I agree with what you say here... But please note that calling me "a dumbass" when everything I stated in my post was in fact 100% factually correct except singularly for it being 12 days as opposed to 10 days (which is splitting hairs and hence essentially not really massively relevant) was somewhat uncalled for... But you are forgiven already
shareFYI Percentage drops by themselves are both IRRELEVANT and MEANINGLESS
Percentage drops tell you how quickly the audience attendance drops. It's neither irrelevant nor meaningless.
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Not necessarily. He could switch to the, box office doesn't matter, this movie was made for "the fans", "adults", etc. route.
Yes, he will probably do that, but I think with a sock account. Look what happened to mello and others in the BvS board, they all disappeared, but coincidentally very similar new accounts started to pop up.
FROM:"Save me Batman, please, save me" WB and MOS TO:"Save me Product Placement, save me" WB and BvS
lol wom my assss. 80% of the time wom does not affect any shttt. just take a look at ghost buster, star trek beyond where is the word of mouth on those film. where is the word of mouth on transformer films.
i guess one possible reason for this drop on SS is that almost all fans and people has come to watch it in the opening weekends while on other superhero films they waited for the 2nd/3rd etc hence a bit fewer percentage drop on those and a bit big on SS because almost all the people have already seen it in the first week.
this doesnt mean shtt anyway. total gross is what matters.
total gross is what matters.
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So how is those numbers bad?
shareSo how is those numbers bad?
Ss has matched or bested gotg everyday so far. Gotg made 130 million in its next three weeks.
If trends continue that would put ss at 352 mill after four weeks. Hmmmmmmm
You know what else bested GOTG the first two plus weeks? BVS. How did that turn out? Not well domestically and barely well WW. Yeah, exactly.
shareHow did that not turn out good? BvS made nearly 900 million dollars ww. How on earth is that bad?
"I will not be strong armed by threats against my laundry"
How did that not turn out good? BvS made nearly 900 million dollars ww. How on earth is that bad?
They are also talking about ww numbers. Learn how to read properly.
"I will not be strong armed by threats against my laundry"
I know the logic of the haters is baffling
shareReally? Ha, ha, ha, ha..... These butthurt Fanboys (jerlot65) enjoy eating crow. Poor people.
FROM:"Save me Batman, please, save me" WB and MOS TO:"Save me Product Placement, save me" WB and BvS
"Enjoy eating crow"ummm okay. Trying to call others butthurt nerds when you come across sounding like the biggest nerd here with those 3 words. Anyway, @scienceguy said it best:
OP is an idiot... Percentage drop is irrelevant without the corresponding salient statistics, especially given Suicide Squad's opening weekend was a record-breaking box office amount of over $133 MILLION domestically! The fact of the matter is Suicide Squad's second weekend has the movie STILL at NUMBER ONE in the Box Office, with a very healthy near $44 million domestically and a whopping $465,374,728 total within just TEN DAYS... So like I said, OP in an IDIOT
OP is an idiot... Percentage drop is irrelevant without the corresponding salient statistics, especially given Suicide Squad's opening weekend was a record-breaking box office amount of over $133 MILLION domestically!
$166 million OW
I fail to see how any of that is bad. It's like you're trying to make points against SS, but keep coming up short.
shareI fail to see how any of that is bad.
Disturbing drop and undeserved. Great movie but GOTG was a much better and funner movie and WOM was simply better.
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