Frankenfurter was not a woman and should not be played by one. Adam Lambert would have been a better choice. The only really good choice is R. Carney as Riff Raff. The trailer just looks awful. The movie was perfect the first time around, I don't understand why someone decided to ruin it.
shareBecause they need to include every sexually deviant or minority scum for a "just and orderly society" as Darth Sidious would say. So they have to remake things like Sidious remade the Senate into the Empire, and all you can hope is that the spunk bubble loses his shirt on this.
shareFrankenfurter is bisexual and trans* (transvestites fall under the larger trans* umbrella). We don't really know the character's gender identity. They could be genderqueer, bigender, genderfluid or agender for all we know. Even if the good Dr. were 100% cis male, cross-gender acting is not exactly uncommon in movies. Think of Hairspray, Jack & Jill, Norbit and Cloud Atlas, to name just a few recent examples. And isn't cross-gender acting precisely what being a transvestite is all about?
Besides, transgender characters are almost exclusively played by cisgender actors. When trans people complain about this, their concerns are wiped away with comments like "a good actor can portray anything", or "it's called acting, all actors perform a role that differs from their real persona", or "why should studios limit their casting choices". Does this suddenly no longer apply now that the shoe is on the other foot?
Dr. Frankenfurter is a bisexual, predatory, male transvestite who will seduce you and your significant other. He's also a psychopath, even too crazy for the alien invader Transylvanians. Having the character played by a cis-gender male IMO is preferable to having the character played by a fully realized trans woman. He makes no sense at all as played by Cox.
There are certain characters who are just a certain thing and that's just what they are.
It ruins the character for most people, and I don't believe it's because the audience is closed-minded. Cox is simply wrong for the part.
Well, I disagree. If cis men cross-gender act as trans women in movies, it is only fair that trans women are hired to portray cis men (assuming Frankenfurter actually is a cis man. Like I said, he might be genderqueer).
shareI guess the only way to put it is the character, as played by Cox, has been castrated. There, I said it.
Of course it's the filmmaker's right to re-imagine any character any way they wish.
This just seems like a huge waste of time. Apparently there's even an audience who re-enacts what audiences did in the 70's-80's. I guess this is all supposed to be some kind of tribute to the entire phenomenon from the stage show to the film to the audience and now re-imagined for present time.
I'll pass, but I'm sure others will enjoy it.
There, I said it.
Being in the broad spectrum of "trans" myself, I take issue with you calling me ignorant.
I'm talking about a character in a play, not human rights, not dating people. What are you even talking about? The character is NOT a transsexual. The character is a bisexual male transvestite. It's really that simple.
Enjoy watching this with all your SJW high mindedness intact. You are clearly just so much a Cox fan that you don't understand how this misses the mark. That's fine, but you need to stop with insulting people, especially when you don't know WTF you are talking about.
I never used the outdated term transsexual (even though Frankenfurter self-reportedly hails from "transsexual Transylvania"). I said transvestites fall under the larger trans* umbrella, and their gender identity tends to be a little more complex than male or female.
There is a reason why crossdressers and transvestites feel the need to break out of their social gender box on occasion. They may not feel the need to physically and permanently transition, but neither do they neatly fit into their birth-assigned gender. Or into the binary view of gender, for that matter. I'm somewhat surprised that you as a person on the trans* spectrum are unaware of this, just like it surprises me that you throw the term SJW around.
PS: This wasn't me insulting you. We engaged in a discussion and exchanged viewpoints as far as I'm concerned. I actually offered you an olive branch in the last paragraph of my previous post.
You're obviously a big fan of Cox. You also obviously have a lot to learn about what "trans" means, but don't let that stop you from lecturing others lol.
You may have to just also understand that even our favorite actors and actresses take on roles that they are just not right for. It happens. She's just not right for the role.
You do understand that trans* (note the asterisk) is a broader umbrella than transgender? And even the transgender umbrella is more diverse than the outmoded descriptor transsexual, which is largely avoided outside the medical community nowadays because the suffix -sexual is misleading.
Transgender already includes inviduals who are in between the two traditional genders, so to speak (bigender, genderfluid etc.) This includes people whose social gender expression varies from the traditional gender norms, which is arguably the case for transvestites who present themselves in a non-traditional way to the larger society.
The trans* umbrella is even broader and also includes crossdressers who only change their gender expression in the privacy of their own homes, or drag queens who only do so for stage performances. So no matter which umbrella you choose, it includes the character of Dr. Frankenfurter.
Sorry for lecturing you again, but it seems to me that you are the one who is a bit unclear on the meaning of this term. Otherwise you would have used the opportunity to tell me exactly how I'm supposedly wrong. But since you can't back up your claim, don't realize that a transvestite falls in the trans category, and conflate transgender with transsexual, maybe you can learn a thing or two from this post.
Are you trans or just an "expert"?
I have explained exactly what is wrong with the casting...numerous times. Dr. Frankenfurter is a bisexual male transvestite...not a fully realized M2F transsexual.
It's not that difficult. It's bad casting. Period.
My gender identity is irrelevant. So is yours, for that matter. Do you think Ted Haggard, Larry Craig, or your average log cabin Republican are experts on gay rights and issues just because they are gay? Did Phyllis Schlafly have a firm grasp of women's issues and concerns simply by virtue of having a uterus? I don't think so.
Once again, transgender is a much broader umbrella than transsexual. It includes people whose social gender expression differs from their birth-assigned gender. Eddie Izzard, for example, is a trans person even though he uses male pronouns. (As a side note, many trans people object to terms like M2F and F2M because transitioning doesn't change a person's gender, merely their physical appearance. Trans women aren't men at the start of their transitioning process).
As for bad casting, that's a matter of opinion. I think Laverne as a trans person is an inspired choice for this role. Neither of our opinions are objective and universal, even if you finish your sentiments with "triple exclamation mark" instead of "period".
I thought so. My guess is that you are a straight hetero male who somehow feels entitled to lecture on gender and transgender, without actually knowing the first thing about either. In other words, a smart a@@ know it all. Triple Exclamation Point.
shareYour guess is wrong. But my being LGBT did not automatically equip me with any knowledge regarding LGBT definitions and terminology. I had to learn this by reading and through conversations, like any other information. I suggest you do the same. It's inane to think that as soon as you realize you're trans, you magically know all there is to know about the subject.
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Yay for victoraia justice bouncybouncy she looks yummy i wanna lick her bellybutton & enjoy her hiccups
shareAdam Lambert would have been a horrible, annoying choice to be Frank. Lambert's talent is best suited to be the diced-up corpse of Eddie. We'll have to suffer through the parts of Eddie alive.
shareAnybody watching it ?
I don't think that the casting was so poor as it was what the director did to the characters.
The only one that should absolutely not have been cast was Christina Milian. Worst Choice for Magenta, ever.
The others could have been worked with, and it could have been tweaked so that people would have accepted the remake a bit more. But they weren't. I fully expected Dr. Scott to snap into his All That Jazz role....no way did he remind me of a Nazi. But he's a good actor, that could have been worked with, ya know?
The twat waffle was the director....